FAA LOA how do you change it?

[NuName]

Any of my overstressed collegues out there know of a quick and easy way to change the operator on a LOA??????:ugh:

[G-SPOTs Lost]

Im almost certain that you can't, we were grandfathered onto ops specs in 2003 or so, transferred title when we sold the aircraft and effectively grounded it for 2 months whilst the new owner tried to sort out the RVSM approval.

If you are operating in the UK & Europe, I would strongly suggest that you do not try to apply for it yourself and just bite the bullet and get acg or similar to do all the work from Day 1. If its an RVSM or other airspace approval you are looking for then it will be more cost effective in terms of fuel burns and sub charters to let them get on with it - budget on $4k.

Alternatively consider on its next check - swapping onto the Manx register, very straightforward from an oversight and airworthiness point of view and each a/s approval comes pre supplied with a set of manuals for around $1000

[Fossy]

There is no way, that a LOA is transferred from one operator to another, since the operator is responsible and has to sign for it. As you most probably not from the US, the International Field Office in NY is in charge.

PS: I agree with G-Spot, register your aircraft anywhere else, like Manx, Cayman, Bermuda or Aruba, due to that it's a nightmare to deal with the IFO and will take months to get the approval.

[NuName]

Thanks for that chaps, I worded it wrong anyway, I meant how do you get a new one. Seems like I have plenty of work to do to resolve this one.

[Fossy]

Have fun

FAA.gov (http://www.faa.gov/ats/ato/rvsm1.htm)


RVSM APPROVAL PROCESS EVENTS: Non-U.S. OPERATORS
(Dec 11, 2004)

Note: updated text is highlighted in yellow. 91-RVSM Reference Paragraph or Document on RVSM Documentation Webpage
Operator Establishes Need to Obtain RVSM Approval. NOTE: ATS providers have announced intent to implement RVSM in NOTAM’s and Aeronautical Information Publications. 6c(1) & (2)
Operator Contacts Aircraft Manufacturer or Design Organization and obtains aircraft RVSM airworthiness approval documents, if available:

• For In-service aircraft: e.g., Service Bulletin (SB), Aircraft Service Change (ASC) , Supplemental Type Certificate (STC); and
• For New or In-production aircraft: e.g., Airplane Flight Manual statement, Type Certificate Data Sheet

Manufacturer advises operator whether aircraft is covered by group approval or is considered as a non-group aircraft

Manufacturer advises operator on obtaining airworthiness approval documents 11b; Aircraft Engineering Package List; Points of Contact list - Aircraft Manufacturers
Operator contacts appropriate civil aviation authority (CAA) to arrange a
pre-application meeting to discuss requirements for approval. 11.c; See paragraphs 3 and 8 on next pages.
Approx 60 days in advance, operator submits an application to CAA for operational approval. 6c, 11b, 11d
Content of Application:

1. Airworthiness Documents. (See paragraph 9 for TCAS Version 7 information).

2. Description of Aircraft Equipment.

3. Operations Training Programs and Operating Practices and Procedures.

4. Operations Manuals and Checklists.

5. Past Performance.

6. Minimum Equipment List (only if operating under an MEL).

7. Maintenance Program.

8. Plan for Participation in Monitoring Programs.

9. Plan for reporting altitude-keeping errors. 11d, Example Application

11d(1), Aircraft Engineering Package List

11d(2)

11d(3); See para 5 below.

11d(4); See para 5.

11d(5)

11d(6), MMEL GC59

10, 11d(7). See para 4.

11d(8), 11h . See para 6.

11i
Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) reviews application. 11e

RVSM APPROVAL EVENTS (CONT.)

CAA registers RVSM approved airframes on the appropriate RVSM Approvals Database.

NOTE: as individual airframes are verified to be RVSM compliant, they should be registered on the appropriate database. See paragraph 7.
When operator completes airworthiness, continued airworthiness and operations program requirements, CAA grants operational approval. 11g


1. FAA RVSM Website Address: FAA.gov (http://www.faa.gov/ats/ato/rvsm1.htm) then click on “RVSM Documentation” Icon.

2. RVSM Documentation Section Organization. (Documents applicable to specific areas of operation are published for the individual areas). Section headings are:

• Webpage Updates: By Month Listing
• Getting Started: Information and Checklists
• Aircraft Certification (AIR) Policy/Procedures
• Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) – Applicable to All Operators
• Contacts
• FAA Inspector Guidance
• Documents Applicable to All RVSM Approvals
• General/Business Aviation Aircraft and Operator Documents
• Large Transport Aircraft/Operator Documents
• Monitoring Requirements and Procedures
• Registration on RVSM Approvals Database
• Area of Operations Specific Information & Operational Policy/Procedures

1 North American RVSM
• Domestic US RVSM (DRVSM)
• Canada – RVSM
• Mexico – RVSM
• Gulf of Mexico

2 Global Areas of RVSM Operations
• Asia/Pacific Ocean
• Caribbean and South America
• Europe
• North Atlantic (NAT)
• West Atlantic Route System (WATRS), San Juan FIR, NY Oceanic, Atlantic High Offshore


3. Guidance to FAA Inspectors. Current Guidance to FAA Flight Standards Inspectors is:

a. Job Aid: Part 91 Operator Application to Conduct RVSM Operations
b. General Aviation Operator Guidance: Notice 8700.26 (Authorization of Aircraft and Operators For Flight In RVSM Airspace)
c. Airworthiness Inspector’s Handbook (FAA Order 8300.10), Volume 2, Chapter 5
d. PTRS Data Entry Job Aid for RVSM
e. Letters of Authorization (LOA) – Notice 8700.23 (LOA’s for Special Areas of Operation)
f. Guidance Applicable to Commercial Operators: Air Transportation Inspector’s Handbook, HBAT 03-06 (9/8/03), RVSM Airspace.

4. Maintenance Programs. FAA Order 8300.10 (Airworthiness Inspector’s Handbook) was updated with RVSM information in May 2003. Volume 2, Chapter 5 contains guidance on RVSM maintenance programs. Section 1, paragraph 9 and
Section 2, paragraph 5 contain information on maintenance program content and on inspector actions. Chapter 5 also contains guidance on inspector determination of aircraft RVSM compliance. Chapter 5 is published under FAA Inspector Guidance on the RVSM Documentation Webpage.

5. Operations Training, Manuals and Checklists. The following documents can be found on the RVSM Documentation Webpage. They are references for the development of pilot and, if applicable, dispatcher training programs and manuals:

a. 91-RVSM Appendix 4: Practices/procedures applicable to all RVSM operations
b. 91-RVSM Appendix 5: Practices/procedures applicable to oceanic RVSM operations
c. Area of Operations Specific Information. Operational policies and procedures for specific areas of operation can be found in RVSM Documentation under the individual area headings. Procedures listed include: contingency procedures, weather deviation procedures and track offset procedures. Policies include: policies for flight planning and for operation of non-RVSM aircraft.
d. FAA DRVSM Notice: “Operational Policy/Procedures For RVSM in the Domestic U.S., Alaska, Offshore Airspace and the San Juan FIR”. This FAA Notice (as amended) contains operational policy and procedures for DRVSM. Current version is posted in the North American RVSM section of the RVSM Documentation webpage.
e. Pilot Training for Using TCAS Version 7.0 in RVSM airspace.
f. TCAS II Version 7.0 Modifications.
g. Dispatcher Guidance for RVSM Operations.
h. Acceptance of Part 91 Operator Pilot Knowledge and Operations Documents. See inspector guidance in N 8700.26 paragraph 9f.

6. Monitoring Requirements and Procedures. See the “Monitoring Requirements and Procedures” section of the RVSM Documentation Webpage.

a. See “Instructions for Using the Minimum Monitoring Charts and Procedures from Different Regions”.
b. See “Monitoring Procedures for Non-US Operators”.

7. Registration of RVSM Approvals Databases. See the “Registration on RVSM Approvals Databases” section of RVSM Documentation Webpage.

8. RVSM Area New to the Operator. Requirements and policies for operators that have received initial approval in one area of operations and are starting operations in another are reviewed in the “RVSM Area New to the Operator” document published on the website under Documents Applicable to All RVSM Approvals.

9. Part 91 Appendix G Provision for TCAS II Version 7.0.

Appendix G, Section 2, paragraph (g) was revised in 2001 to state:

“After March 31, 2002, unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator, if you operate an aircraft that is equipped with TCAS II in RVSM airspace, it must be a TCAS II that meets TSO C-119b (Version 7.0), or a later version.”

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[dragonflyhi]

We are in the process of refinancing our Falcon and changed company names for tax purposes....the old operator was a US company and the new is a BVI-British Virgin Islands, essentially an affiliated company with the same principle. The SFO POI is researching this....if it was another US company, simply, amend you Int'l Ops Manual and the FAA would issue a new set of LOA's. Good Luck

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dragonflyhi

I was under the impression that all foreign owned US trusts had to apply via the NYFO and were then processed by a guy in Oklahoma, hence the big delays.

So thats to say US owned companies can apply anywhere in the US and offshore N-reg operators had to run the bottleneck.

We had an Excel on the FAA but when we changed the a/c we were warned by the manufacturer that we were looking at 16 weeks to get our approvals back