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Obi Wan Kirk
21st March 2008, 09:10
Hi !
Does anyone know if Oman Air are recruiting Captains on the B737NG, what the requirements are, the package deal, company expansion plans & last but not least who do you need to send your CV to for a job?
I have heard they are a good outfit to work for and Muscat is a nice city.
spearomic
21st March 2008, 09:22
How do you send your application, I'm an ATR drviver looking for job:)
realsebas
21st March 2008, 22:00
Hi guys,
I'm fo on the 737 with Oman Air since a couple of months. Salaries went up recently and gave us a pretty nice contract in fact.
As an fo, basic salary is now 2600 RO. A normal month with around 70 flight hours gives us more or less 400 RO flight pay. This amount can go up to around 700 RO for a well filled month. They give us an additional 350 RO to help to pay a house rent and 40 RO for elec and water. They don't have a retirement program but there is an illness insurance and free medicines and doctor visits for you, your partner and kids. Also a part of the schooling is paid for. No loss of licence at the moment but I've heard they pay 50% of it if you organise it yourself.
ID90 on 28 companies (Emirates, Etihad, KLM, Air France, Gulf Air, ...)
For cpt I think basic salary is now 3600 RO and housing 590 RO. All the rest is same.
The Omani Rial is linked to the $ at a fixed rate of 1 RO = 2,59 $
Oman Air bought 6 A330's and 3 additional on a leasing base. Delivery starts in 2009. 5 B787's were bought as well and were scheduled for delivery in 2012 but latest rumours (not confirmed) talk about delivery in 2010 already. So fleet will be more than doubled in a few years.
What the ATR concerns, I don't think they hire new pilots for them as they will be fased out. They want to replace them with small jetplanes like CRJ's.
Muscat is very nice living indeed. It's very quite, people are nice and nature is beautiful.
I hope this info helps a bit.
Greetz,
Seb
Obi Wan Kirk
22nd March 2008, 11:49
Thanks for info realsebas!
Can you send me your contact details on a private message?
If not send me contact email to who I have to send CV to.
Kind Regards,
Obi Wan Kirk
TOGA737
22nd March 2008, 15:06
Hi realsebas
Is 350 RO is enough to rent in Muscat?
How much will it cost to rent 2/3 bedrooms apartment in Muscat, in a nice area?
Thanks
TOGA737
realsebas
22nd March 2008, 15:34
Hi Toga,
No, for 350 RO you can only find a small appartment. Muscat is becoming very expensive for housing. There is a very big availability problem so prices rise higher and higher.
It depends what you're looking for. I'm in an area close to the airport but further away from all the activities. I pay 450 RO but for this amount I have a very nice villa of 250 mē. If you want to stay in one of the favourite expat area's like MSQ you find for the same money a small studio but you have everything (except airport!) close by.
Greetz,
Seb
falcon24
22nd March 2008, 18:14
Hi
Is the basic salary mentioned for new joiners,or for the current pilots in the company
B-737
22nd March 2008, 19:21
What are their requirements for 737 F/O? Do they need hours on type ?If yes , how many ?
speedtwoten
23rd March 2008, 00:15
Dear realsebas,
any info about Captain salary?? how much time takes you from you signed the offer letter untill you come to Muscat??? and how long is your training till you get realeased.
you won't get transportation to/from airport, how is the public transportation in Muscat?? is buying a car expensive/difficult??
realsebas
24th March 2008, 08:35
Hi everyone,
Speedtwoten, I gave cpt salary already earlier. Some 7 posts ahead.
After your sim it goes quite fast in fact to come to Muscat. Basically the delaying factor is your visa. OmanAir takes care of this but it takes time. For me it took a month from simride till joining date. When you arrive in Muscat you have around a month of groundschool and then 4 simsessions. After that a couple of linetraining sectors depending on your experience and then you're inserted in the roster. You get full salary as soon as you join the company. They give you an advance the day you arrive.
Before you've found your own house your staying in a hotel. From there you have a crewbus picking you up for all "activities". In theory. It's better to rent a car and to buy one asap. Renting prices are 160 RO/month for a nice sedan. New cars are VERY cheap! American and Asian cars are less than half price of the price in western Europe. A toyota Land Cruiser Prado with the most powerfull engine and full option cost around 17000 RO. If you're a good negotiator you can even get less. Mitsubishi Pajero with most powerfull engine and full option is 13500 RO. European cars are more expensive. Still cheaper then in Europe but the differences is way less.
There is a kind of public transportation which is by means of a taxi loading up as much pax as possible and picking them up and dropping of on the motorway itself. Pretty dangerous and not very pleasant to sit between 8 other people in the back of a small car. :)
There are some busses but I never tried them. No trains, no metro, and no camel rides to the airport, sorry... :)
Falcon, Basic salary I gave is for new joiners. More years in the company gives you more money but I don't know how much. I think I've heard somewhere 50 RO more for each year in the company but I've never seen this on paper and I never looked for it, sorry.
B-737, Normally you need something like 750 hours total and some hours on the 737 but you can always try if you have less. Sometimes they make an exception.
Greetz,
Seb
speedtwoten
24th March 2008, 12:50
realsebas,
thanks for info that's help a lot I will see you in the cockpit, they said ground course start next April, I got my visa already be there hopefully end of this month that what Leila said.:ok:
realsebas
27th March 2008, 06:50
Great news Speedtwoten!
Looking forward to see you in Muscat.
I'll send you contactdetails as privat message.
Good luck,
Seb
speedtwoten
27th March 2008, 09:02
realsebas, thanks alot check your PM:ok:
747fanatic
17th April 2008, 05:52
I need some info on the Senior Manager Training & Standards position.
Is this a flying position? as they require a current Captain for the job. Any idea what the benefits may be like.
Thanks
747fanatic
20th April 2008, 13:29
where are the Oman air pilots?
Farrell
20th April 2008, 13:45
Speedtwoten
Great to hear that it is all working out!
See you when you get here!
Farrell
flycold
21st April 2008, 16:42
are they providing promotion to captain to expat f/o?
and what is the minimum requirement for DEC?
Happy Landings!:ok:
touch_and_go
21st April 2008, 17:40
Please, need to know about Oman Air interview. I just applied for a B737 captain position.
Also, need to know how much school subsidy they pay. Are there int'l schools in Muscat? Thanks.
jakara
21st April 2008, 23:48
Last week I saw Oman Air B767 parked at BKK new aiport. I wonder if they recuit an FO B767 or not.
NGFellow
22nd April 2008, 05:47
If anyone has information as to how to apply to Oman Air kindly post or PM me. I got the salary details which seem quite good, but wanted to get some additional information regarding the employment process for Capts who are current/qualified on the NG. Specific Areas of questions.
1. Interview process and time line to get on line if current/qualified.
2. Family Housing terms and conditions.
3. Roster/leave terms. How many hours do you fly a month?
4. Schooling allowance and schools available (We have a 5 year old).
5. General working conditions.
The website does not show any vacancies for pilots.
Thanks
747fanatic
23rd April 2008, 08:48
How are the travel Benefits? Oman Air travel, Buddy passes and ZED.
jakara
24th April 2008, 03:14
Thrust74! Thanks for info. I am interested but only have b767 rated. So no change for me to work in ME regoin.
bump
25th April 2008, 22:26
AGAIN, PEOPLE
HOW DO YOU APPLY,
NOTHING ON THERE WEBSITE,
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW
CHEERS:ugh:
747fanatic
12th May 2008, 07:11
Heard Oman air management is in Bahrain? A Gulf Air Tie up?
kotakota
12th May 2008, 07:41
Would not think so , after all , they have only just severed ties with GA , and have ordered their own fleet of long-haul hulls , and short -haul fleet expanding every month.
Either a chat about code-shares on the Muscat - Bahrian route or maybe even a roadshow to try and entice the Omani crew home to crew said orders . Both airlines have had recent payrises , probably because of that precise reason. Something has to give !
flycold
13th May 2008, 10:38
how about consecutive leave in Oman Air?
I mean payed leave.
Thanks!:ok:
rakedwings
21st May 2008, 08:16
Does anyone have any info on Oman Air and the living conditions in Muscat?
747fanatic
21st May 2008, 08:35
Heard money is improved and muscat is a good place to live. Did you get a call?
rakedwings
21st May 2008, 18:26
No applied a month back for an f/o slot. Still waiting for reply.
sounds stupid I know, but how did you apply.
thank you:ugh:
rakedwings
25th May 2008, 21:37
They dont have an online application system. I sent my application by mail.
maquizapa1
4th June 2008, 22:31
does anyone know how long take oman work permit?
drnorrie
5th June 2008, 09:09
Mine took a week, processed by an automotive company as that's where I work just now. (my flying is PPL only).
Upon arrival my residence card, driving license, bank accounts etc took about 3 days. Compared to Bahrain, and Kuwait it was a hassle free experience.
skygod
5th June 2008, 18:28
hi there,
Visa usually takes about 7-10 days in oman pending on national holidays, upon arrival u go for a medical, then ur issued a labour card is is valid for 2 years. Hope this stirs you in the right direction.
rgds
skygod
maquizapa1
6th June 2008, 02:43
Thank you for the info, it help me a lot,
All the best,
MAQUIZAPA1
747fanatic
6th June 2008, 06:37
any offers? Not the most efficient of HRs
chrislikesblue
6th June 2008, 21:46
Anyone knows what is the current salary for fo on the 737?
maquizapa1
7th June 2008, 16:02
My friend, you have to heck: Oman Air ilots recruitment from MAY 13 2008, R:ok:gds
Sad but true, no management left to handle it.
fractional
28th June 2008, 16:31
Typical stuff for this area. No grand objective and practical plan. We have seen it everywhere in the Gulf since 94. EK, here in DXB, may have been the exception to the rule despite starting 8 years earlier where the area was still quiet. The recent creation of Fly Dubai will not affect anything since the infra-structure exists.
To start, well in this case restart, something like this, they must have installed a management team separate from a day-to-day business in order to plan the expansion and trickle it in. They didn't and it will be a long lived mistake despite all the good publicity they will throw to the media and public.
I realy like Oman air but safety is getting affected now and no management seems to care, it's all political but they don't fly the aircrafts. They have the potential to be a very nice and safe airline.
But..........
touch_and_go
10th July 2008, 20:44
I was just invited for an interview on august. any info on the interview? Also, what's the package for NG captains? Appreciate any info.
yo-ho
11th July 2008, 22:49
Hello!
Oman is a very nice place and the Omanis are polite with great hospitality. If you have the opportunity to join them, do it.
If you want swinging night life, look somewhere else. Living in the country side is not bad. There are lots of different activities for you and your family depends on what you are interesting in.
Give it a try and experience for yourself, you always has the possibility to resign if you do not like there for some reasons.
Regards
From an expat who spent 11 years in Oman and still visiting the country from time to time.
benonianto
13th July 2008, 10:59
u say only PPL ...Do they also recruit PPL holders and train them...
Cabair351
13th July 2008, 16:35
Hi,
Does anyone have any contact info for the recruitment department at Oman Air?
I am a 737 300-900 rated pilot with just over 500 hours on the NG. Not sure thats enough but cant hurt to give it a shot.
Thanks for the help.
touch_and_go
19th July 2008, 18:10
How much is school subsidy, if there is any?
touch_and_go
19th July 2008, 18:12
Also, any info on the intervie? A sim session and ...?
MAKAVELI320
20th July 2008, 01:08
u guys r dreaming a lot that company is a suck enjoy it all falks
sispanys ria
20th July 2008, 18:35
One thing that should be kept in mind about allowances:
nobody pushes you to find something that fits the allowance... the main reason why companies are using allowances is that compensations are based on the basic salaries, meaning that lowering basic and increasing allowances is good for companies and not that much for employees.
It doesn't mean so much to compare allowances to market prices since it's the full package that makes sense.
May I suggest to claim for toilet paper allowance, sunglasses allowance, still water allowance, Christmas log allowance etc...?
sispanys ria
21st July 2008, 14:21
Thanks a lot mailbag, I see you understand the very deep regional legal issues of employment contracts but it's not the case of most of the people willing to move in the area, that's why I guessed it might be an interesting contribution to elaborate about the origin and real meaning of allowances. I'm now listening to you master...
sispanys ria
21st July 2008, 16:15
I agree with you mailbag, my intention was just to remind the real purpose of such allowances. The housing allowance is not mainly intended to pay for housing but mainly to reduce the basic salary. This is why with all the possible scenarios it is better to consider a full package to evaluate an offer...
Rivera
26th August 2008, 09:51
Looking for info on Omanair renumeration,
Thanks
do they pay flt or duty day?
Is Oman air hiring B737 pilots, I see they have ordered airbuses only. No info regarding pilot recruitment on their website.
How are work conditions there?
Package:
I have gathered the following from the forum, not sure how accurate and correct will appreciate update
Capt
Basic 3600, Housing 590, utilities 40, how much is the flight pay and if there is any other payment. I did not see transport allowance anywhere.
how much is the hourly pay
FO
Basic 2600, Housing 350, utilities 40, flight pay 5.5 per hour.
any other payment,
what about travel benefits on Oman air
Annual Leave
EOS
Qualification
747fanatic
3rd September 2008, 08:16
do you have Captain over age 60?
kotakota
3rd September 2008, 09:11
Yes , there are over 60s in Omanair , that is not an issue here.
NG Rating and time are becoming more popular again .
Lots of recruitment to come , adverts soon .
Transport allowance not given , but as cars are the cheapest I have ever seen and as fuel is about 15p a litre , it is simply not an issue !
Watch this space.
2FLYEU
3rd September 2008, 12:51
Hi Gents,
Does anyone knows if after an application is Submitted (emailed to M Pereira)
You receive an application receipt confirmation?
I know she was om leave last week, but no reply yet.
Cheers for the info !!
wolverine_267
5th September 2008, 21:15
Just curious to find out the Oman Air recruitment process, is it as comprehensive as EK/EY or just interviews/medicals and sim.
Also when are the A330's going to be on the line.
Cheers
:cool:
TidaBisa
10th September 2008, 16:10
Applied to Oman Air about 1 week ago via email to
[email protected]. Received a response asking for several
scanned copies of various documents. Has anyone been through the process lately? Interested in mainly the process of screening, sim etc.
Also have applied to FlyDubai but havent heard back as yet. As they say feast or famine. It will be tough to choose between OmanAir & FlyDubai.
Both seem to have many positives as well as negatives.
chrislikesblue
10th September 2008, 19:50
Anyone knows what are the minimum requirements to be called for interview?
Farrell
11th September 2008, 04:37
A 737 TR - 500 hours on type - basic cognitive function - and loads of patience.
kotakota
11th September 2008, 06:11
That is not correct , it is 6000 hours TT , 1500 jet , 1000 P1 737 with the bulk being on NG . Current NG captains that come close will be considered .
Supply is going up and demand is going down ( worldwide that is - Not Omanair )
747fanatic
11th September 2008, 06:30
I am sure Flydubai will change that equation very soon. At-least in the region.
TidaBisa
11th September 2008, 06:33
Maybe I was just lucky but I sent an email to them and got a response within just a few days. They asked me for some scanned copy items which I sent them. Expect to interview in October. I am current on the NG as a Capt and have flown the 200/700/800/. TT is in excess of 12,000 with 7,000 jet. B737 time is 3,000 plus.
2FLYEU
11th September 2008, 12:01
Hello Tidabisa and others,
I applied 2 weeks ago and not a single reply yet.
So it looks like of course they are looking for the Capt's initially.
(I have applied as a F/O +4000 hrs TT 3000+ on 737's and a current type
rating...so maybe my chances are limited :sad:
As mentioned before they are trying to get as many capts as possible before
Fly dubai does ?????!!!
Anyone in my similar position???
Thanks
TidaBisa
11th September 2008, 13:47
Someone I know interviewed with OmanAir a few months ago. He said that they are "very very slow" in processing your paperwork and are very laid back. So it is not unusual not get a response for a while. It is my understanding that while they are hiring they are in no big rush to have people on the property. Several Omani's I understand are leaving GulfAir to join and so I am sure they are getting processed first.
FlyDubai is only hiring Capts right now. If you are not a Capt on the NG they will not be interested in talking to you right now. In time they will
start looking at F/O's. In fact mainly even with Capts they want TRi/TRE's and people with training background. New hire Capts will fly from both seats when they first start up.
Farrell
11th September 2008, 18:01
2FLYEU
You will not receive a reply for at least the next three weeks.
It is the month of Ramadan which will finish around the end of September - not much gets done during Ramadan.
Then you have a week of the Eid holiday at the end where everywhere is closed.
Then about two weeks or more to get through the backlog of paperwork.
To give you an example...
My paperwork for a position here is being rushed through the system, as I type this.
They started to rush it through last.....April.
Things roll very slowly here in Oman. Be patient.
kotakota
11th September 2008, 19:21
Not exactly true either . Friend of mine heard from Michelle yesterday having sent his CV only last week , all during Ramadan . Flt Ops are taking more interest in recruitment at the moment but there seems to be some difficulty in getting some emails through , be patient , try again until you get a reply.
Farrell
11th September 2008, 19:28
kotakota
Do you think that Michelle P. could teach that level of efficiency to the rest of the country? :ok:
kotakota
12th September 2008, 03:57
Farrell .
Do you need a holiday or change of job ?
Are you wearing a hat in the sun ?
Sound very negative .
kotakota
12th September 2008, 04:53
XL going bust in UK ? Could prove ideal for flydubai and Omanair ? amazing how these things balance out .
Farrell
12th September 2008, 07:23
The Ying and Yang of the airline industry eh?
KK:
I used to wear a hat in the sun but some charter bloke stole it on me! :)
2FLYEU
12th September 2008, 09:18
Dear All,
Thanks for the feedback!
I was thinking maybe my company email was filtered as spam..???
Anyway If i get a reply, I will update the thread.
Cheers
TidaBisa
14th September 2008, 05:20
Does anyone know if it is possible to:
1. Prepare for the COMPASS test in any way.
2. Take it privately.
3. Improve your scores if you are able to take it more than once?
The only aptitude test I took was the AFOQT--Air Force Officer's Qualifying Test many years ago.
Its seems many of the ME airlines are requiring this COMPASS test.
Thanks
cirrus81
14th September 2008, 10:25
Are they recruiting FO's on ATR equipment.? If yes whats the minimum requirments? and Pay like?
BritishGuy
15th September 2008, 03:48
Has Oman Air received any CRJ's yet? I have 2700TT and am a current captain on the CRJ 200/700/900 series and am wondering if I'd be considered for anything with Oman Air - especially if they have CRJ's on property, direct entry Captain would be nice.
TidaBisa
16th September 2008, 05:30
Oman Air is interviewing for NG Capts in DXB (Dubai) in October 2008.
Dates given were Oct 24-30th. Good luck! Anyone been there lately please post your interview experience (sim etc).
747fanatic
16th September 2008, 06:17
TidaBisa,
Have you received an interview call?
TidaBisa
17th September 2008, 01:48
Email received regarding available dates of Oct 24th-30th. Asked to pick 2 days and they would get back to me. Interview in DXB. You have to buy your own ticket to get there and are reimbursed if selected and only if/when you join.
NGFellow
17th September 2008, 02:27
Considering that the Oman Air and FlyDubai terms and conditions seem fairly similar, the main difference being Muscat vs Dubai, what would be more desirable? Question aimed mainly at sandpit veterans.
Buying your own ticket to DXB?:=
ironbutt57
17th September 2008, 06:49
Oman for lifestyle, drive to Dubai if you want the excitement for a couple days..:ok:
inthecockpit
17th September 2008, 17:45
Hi everyone,
I had the sim interview with oman air last august. The sim session was straight forward. We met at the hotel lobby 1,5 hour before sim session and went together to the sim with the examiner. 4 applicants were there including me. the examiner will brief what will be exercised in the sim and exactly went as briefed.
The examiner will seat on the right and ask you to do visual approach circuit and land with normal engine. take off again with engine failure after V1, you have to identify the failure and ask for the checklist apropriate for the same. then make an approach (could be ILS or VOR) and Go-around N-1. Radar vector to do another approach and land. If he is satisfied he will tell you on the post briefing that you pass the test.
I hope this will help a little. good luck :ok:
TidaBisa
18th September 2008, 01:49
Thanks for the info. How long for a class date after your interview? I am assuming you were selected. What about an HR interview or techincal interview? Are you given a chance to come to Oman to check things out (schools, housing etc) before you accept the offer? Is it a 1 day interview?
Anyone current OA guys? How are you liking it? Especially would like to know from those from the "post honeymoon" period or those who aren't drinking the company coolaid anymore! (i.e been there for than 1 year).
inthecockpit
18th September 2008, 17:00
Class date will be given after your confirmation to them your earliest date of joining. that day HR question was general question (e.g. why do you want to join them, family, flying hours, etc). No chance given to come to Oman before accept the offer, but you only have to give 1 week notice within the first 3 months, as it is probation time, if you do not wish to continue the contract. It is a 1 day interview.
TidaBisa
25th September 2008, 12:40
Who is the Chief Pilot at OmanAir? What about the examiners? Where are they from? Does the CP interview you or is it just about anyone from FltOps?
kotakota
29th September 2008, 13:01
check out the website Oman Air-001-Root (http://www.omanair.aero) under Careers/Vacancies , they want FOs with 100 hrs NG or 500 hours 'equivalent' and current ie last 2 years.
chrislikesblue
29th September 2008, 14:27
Where did you see this?I see only vacancies for cabin crew.
kotakota
29th September 2008, 16:04
an old fart like me should not have to tell some young ace how to find a webpage , but here goes anyway :-
Omanair .aero webpage , click on About Us ( top right ) then careers from the drop down menu , then Vacancies on the Menu top left . You have to get past the Cabin Crew advert !! Good luck.
A pair with balance
29th September 2008, 18:06
are they still looking for captains, or is it just recruitment for f/o's now?
kotakota
30th September 2008, 05:16
Yes , but MUST be current and 1000 hrs P1 .
chrislikesblue
30th September 2008, 13:31
I got it,thanks.
NGFellow
7th October 2008, 06:23
I would like to hear from NG Capts currently at Oman Air. In particular I am interested in the following information (any or all). Thanks in advance.
1. Rostering. How many days on/off a week on average?
2. Monthly hours average and overtime?
3. Any shipping allowance or help with finding housing etc?
4. Any advance payment for rent as may be required by landlords in Muscat?
5. Anybody ship their car from Europe or North America?
6. Trip construction--How many sectors a day on average? Where do you overnight mostly on the NG? How are the hotels etc?
7. How are you treated overall by the management?
8. If you are there now for a 1 year would you consider staying or are you looking to leave to go elsewhere?
9. Anyone with kids in school, how do the kids like it?
Farrell
7th October 2008, 15:01
Anybody ship their car from Europe or North America
The price of cars and petrol over here will have you drooling!
wilderbeest
7th October 2008, 21:33
Hey guys I applied as an F/O on the website and also sent an email to fltops team direct. Im current on the 737ng 1600 on type and 2600 total. anyone knows roughly how long till they get back to you , or if they do if your unsuccesful.??
NGFellow
11th October 2008, 13:09
Is there anyone from Oman Air on pprune? I will say that no one seems to be complaining about Oman Air and so that's a really good sign :D
I am considering applying there and have a couple of questions listed above. Any answer (s) will be greatly appreciated. Also two added questions:
1. Housing--what are the desirable areas in Muscat close to the International Schools (British School and ABA). What are the average prices for a villa? The housing allowance seems a bit low.
2. Transportation--Does OA provide it or do you get an allowance for it.
Thanks
TidaBisa
11th October 2008, 17:08
NG--It seems like there isn't an OA person around to answer any of your questions.:ugh: Try OmanForums and you will find a wealth of information on life in Muscat. They will have information on schools etc as well. Not sure what the schooling allowance is at Oman Air, but the schools will run around 3,000 Riyals approximately per year depending on the age of the child and the grade attending. The British School seems to be highly regarded but there is a long wait list. For housing try Oman Homes on the web. I think you will be able to find a villa for around 1,000-1200 Riyals a month (4 bedroom). An area called MSQ is listed as an expat neighborhood. Not sure of the distance from the airport.
kotakota
11th October 2008, 17:54
NGFellow ,
Transport NOT provided , or an allowance , as Farrell said -its a pleasure to buy cars and petrol here .
Accom allowance IS low ( rents doubled in a year ) but it is being looked at . The schools you mention are in MSQ and Al Khuwayr - rents high there now , most of us live out beyond airport , so long slog through traffic to said schools , but there are other schools . The amount of accomodation now being built indicates that rents will turn eventually , The Wave is going to put plenty of property on the market - the initial offerings are high-rent but it is just the early birds trying to cash in on the shortage , this is not Dubai.
Difficult to answer yr questions re - rostering etc , the company is going through massive expansion / change etc and there has been , and will be , shortages of crew which cause instability of roster at times , the trainers being one-armed paper hangers at the mo. A new Roster system comes in shortly , high hopes all round. A new leave system is also being started for 09
. Lots of new hulls on order , but the Boeing strike is causing some delays to the plan , recruiting may be slowed down somewhat until it is resolved , but the new route structure will be announced shortly , rumours are good , and of course the A330s arrive next year which is going to be a huge step.
Exciting times indeed , it is good to be here , nice place , nice people , hard to realise there is a financial catastrophe going on elsewhere . I know I am glad to be here.
Unless you have a very secure job somewhere with better t&c's , get applying.
NGFellow
11th October 2008, 18:12
Thanks for the wealth of information. As noted most seem pretty happy at Oman Air. What is the neighborhood where most of the OA pilots live?
Would by any chance know what the schooling allowance is per child? I better get busy!!
kotakota
12th October 2008, 04:15
The crew that have been here a while and have low-rent agreements from before the increases seem to be mainly in MSQ , Qurm and Al Khuwayr , which are near most schools and nearer to 'town' . However , getting home in the morning after a night-flight can be very slow as the highway gets busier and busier. The rest of us are in Al-Hail (North and South ) and Al Mawalyeh in the western 'suburbs' . I only need to go to town occasionally , take 8 minutes to work , and we have the major malls etc around us , so a lot of the townies come out here to shop ! Also , villas seem to be larger out here .
I do know that schooling allowance has increased , you get 75% of the 'band' that you are in . I suggested to the management that Omanair should build their own school .
Capt.umair
19th October 2008, 02:28
So what would be the rent for 2 bedroom villa in the place you are living and how much should i epxpact the rent fro 2 or 3 bedroom villa.
Help will be appreciated.
TidaBisa
19th October 2008, 05:33
Go to the website www.omanhomes.com (http://www.omanhomes.com). You can search properties and you will get an idea about costs. If you want to stay in a predominently expat (western) area expect to pay more. Probably double of your allowance. If you are comfortable in a lower rent district then you should be able to find suitable accomodation within your budget give or take a few OR's. That has been my finding.
Rivera
19th October 2008, 08:12
Can anyone share what is the remuneration packge for FO's and Captains, anyone in Oman air
Thanks
TidaBisa
20th October 2008, 04:06
It has been posted on this thread. Go back a few pages and you will find it. In fact you have posted the basic salary package on page 3. Has there been some major change in Oman Air?:confused:
Added benefits would be medical for self and family plus educational allowance covering 75% of school expenses. Leave will probably be around 40-42 days a year, with a free ticket plus ID 90's. End of service benefits will be according to Omani Law.
Rivera
20th October 2008, 06:40
TidaBisa, you are correct, but is the package correct. if you have addtional information?
are they hiring pilots as did not see it on their website, what has changed with the new CEO
is there a market in Oman
TidaBisa
20th October 2008, 10:09
Based on information I have, the package information is correct. Hiring is going on for the B737NG. Send your stuff to
[email protected].
They interview once a month (approximately) in Dubai.
P.Clostermann
20th October 2008, 11:04
Will they be hiring on the A330s or will they be flown via internal transfers?
TidaBisa
20th October 2008, 11:13
I was told that the 330 would be for the local lads. Not to say that they won't need guys to get the program started.
captplaystation
20th October 2008, 13:02
Their website at this moment shows vacancy for F/O on NG, no other pilot positions.
TidaBisa
20th October 2008, 13:57
Don't go by the website. They are screening applicants as we speak for the NG. I know because I have an interview scheduled next month for a B737 Capt position. If you want to be considered send in your CV to the email address above, and then wait a few weeks for a response. If you are NG current/qualified you should hear in about a week. I heard back in a few days.
TidaBisa
22nd October 2008, 05:42
Does anyone know what the annual leave allowance is at Oman Air? Also do they provide you with positive space tickets on your leave? I assume that the leave cannot be taken all at once. I gather many would like to escape the hot summer months. Are the cabin crew all Omani's or other nationalities? How is the general rapport with them?
kotakota
22nd October 2008, 06:06
46 days - 2 lots of 23 , with a couple of days off added to each block . The new system will force crew to take the full allowance each year , so no moe accumulation.
There is an annual ticket to home base for you and family , otherwise very good staff travel on Omanair and others .
Summer months very popular for obvious reasons , but as Ramadan and Eid will fall in the months July August September for the next few years ( it moves forward by about 2 weeks annually ), there is less likelyhood of success than at other times.
Many Omani cabin crew , but mostly expats from all over the world , mainly North Africans , Thais and South Koreans . Rapport is excellent .
Gypsy
22nd October 2008, 07:17
As there seems to be a long wait for the British School can anyone tell me about other alternatives - I've a 10 yr old daughter.
The other big question is after paying towards housing and schooling will I be able to save any money?
Thanks in advance for any help
TidaBisa
22nd October 2008, 12:38
It looks like you will have to pay:
1. Another 500 OR -750 OR for a nice 3 bedroom villa (Allowance is 590 OR).
2. Another 150-200 OR a month per child for schooling costs at an expat school. Allowance is 75% upto 1800OR/yr depending on age/grade. Fees run around 3300OR plus deposits.
The first year is probably catch up. After year 1 I think you might be able to save. Definitely more than you would be able to in Dubai working for FlyD.
I am not as yet in Muscat--anyone in the field care to agree/disagree?
Geebz
23rd October 2008, 11:35
What r their flight time requirements for NG Captains?
Capt.umair
24th October 2008, 00:13
The rates for villas on omanhomes.com are per anum or month.
flying fijian
24th October 2008, 05:22
Whats all the fuss about.About twelve months ago no one gave us a look in.Hmmm.....
latetonite
24th October 2008, 13:52
Please do not forget that when you all have figured out the time to command, the days off, the housing alowance, the living cost, your possible savings a year, you will still have to apply, be accepted for an interview and pass the simulator check before you get in.:ok:
kotakota
24th October 2008, 15:06
And there's the rub..........
Gypsy
25th October 2008, 07:07
can anyone let me know if there are any good alternatives to the British School?
fractional
25th October 2008, 18:21
About twelve months ago no one gave us a look inflying fijian, I hope you don't have to look out in 12 months too.
Ali Baba
25th October 2008, 21:05
Gypsy,yes We Have Alot Of Schools,bangladesh School,indian School, Srililankan,pakistan School,and For You I Recommend Nigerian School
flying fijian
26th October 2008, 02:03
fractional
Likewise ....hope you didnt buy that property on The Palm!
FF
soresore
26th October 2008, 06:51
hey fractional I'd be more worried being in Dubai for the next 12 months
fractional
26th October 2008, 09:09
flying fijian and soresore, I'm perfectly safe for the time being and enjoying the USD turnaround. Things can only get better from now on. Thank you for the heads up.
Gypsy
26th October 2008, 10:11
Ali Baba - well done. Enjoy your puberty because it doesn't last long.
Now, if there any grown ups who can help with a reply to the question I asked earlier about schools I appreciate your views. I have Googled for info but would appreciate any informed opinions. Thanks in advance.
soresore
26th October 2008, 12:26
try ABA, Muscat international school and TAISM.
Gypsy
27th October 2008, 13:15
Thanks for that - I'll look them up.
flying fijian
28th October 2008, 03:37
Donkey
Making derogatory comments about the local lads...something akin to driving ships of the desert I believe...wont win you friends. An apology would have been the right thing to do.
FF
TidaBisa
29th October 2008, 03:39
On a different note is it true that Oman Air offers furnished company housing in lieu of the housing allowance? Does anyone have knowledge of what this housing is like and is it better than getting your own housing?
Anyone live in the compound known as "THE WAVE." ? Are there similar compounds elsewhere?
DATEPALM
29th October 2008, 09:24
Quite the contrary KATHEY, i joined up oman air in the last 12 months and have managed to find a villa which the company was quite happy to approve,as for the allowance capts get OR 4000,to spend as they wish for furniture as long as you provide receipts of the purchase,within 3 months.You can buy furniture and any other household needs from any place you wish.I must admit though certain members of the housing department are a bit hard to deal with,you just have to make sure that they dont push you around right from the start.
DP
Rotorhead1026
30th October 2008, 03:29
Gypsy,yes We Have Alot Of Schools,bangladesh School,indian School, Srililankan,pakistan School,and For You I Recommend Nigerian School
Ali Baba - well done. Enjoy your puberty because it doesn't last long.
OUTSTANDING put-down!! :ok::ok::ok::ok:
I'll keep that one in me own bag of tricks! :):):):)
DATEPALM
30th October 2008, 08:40
Thanks for the advice kathey,
but as far as i'm concerned the localisation of any airline should be the number one priority,and as an expat i'm only here for as long as they need me .Comming from an airline where i was on the other side of the fence i understand and am more than happy to live by those rules.
My freind as for your referance to it being a local VFR club,its a wonder you are no longer here.I have had the pleasure of flying with the locals here at Oman Air and they are a talented and profesional bunch of guys.
Anyway happy landings in HK,and be carefull they are localising there as well !
DP.
kotakota
31st October 2008, 08:20
No 'locals' in HK ? Been a while , but my last trip there I remember almost being unable to walk on the pavements for Chinese nationals everywhere.
I reckon they mostly have proper jobs making more money .
DATEPALM
2nd November 2008, 03:37
Too right kotakota,
Well woopy doo and good for you,Kathey,just be careful of the Chinese buddy,but i guess you don't have a problem flying rubber dog !!!! out of Hong Kong.!!
TidaBisa
2nd November 2008, 07:03
Kotakota or anyone else in the know. Any idea how long it normally takes from the screening to get a contract in hand, assuming you pass? Assuming one has an interview in November 2008, when can one expect to be on the property?
Also does anyone know how many pilots are needed in 2009 and the number of class dates planned for 2009?
kotakota
2nd November 2008, 07:48
The course dates are the deciding factor .
Yr contract can be printed and approved pretty quick after the interview , but mine was sat on for a month until a course could be offered .
The actual contract is signed the day you arrive .
As for forthcoming course dates , the Boeing strike has certainly affected the course planning .Until it is resolved , and delivery dates confirmed for the 2 800s which are late , then no bets are being taken . I hear there are 2 very small courses planned for Jan and March , these can be ramped up of course .
The current 'winter' flying programme which started last week reflects the uncertainty over the deliveries . We expected some new routes to start , but only a rearrangement of some has happened so far .
Patience is paramount !!
TidaBisa
2nd November 2008, 09:15
Thanks for the information. I was told that one would have to take a psychometry test in AL Aein (spelling?) and also a medical upon arrival.
How indepth are any of these. I would hate to sign a contract, quit my current job only to be axed because of a psychometry test or medical issues. I have never taken a psychometry test to the best of my knowledge and my medicals have been uneventful thus far.
kotakota
2nd November 2008, 10:08
Don't know about the Psychometric business - it has only just been introduced !! I am amazed Al Ain is the centre for this . Not sure how this is going to work - either done before or after the contract signing ?
you cannot get away with the medical after joining - this is for the issue of yr Omani Licence . If you have a current Class A medical , what is the problem ?
kotakota
2nd November 2008, 10:10
By the way , if you have evidence of a Psychometric Test , it will be fine . Why not try and take one somewhere before resigning yr current job - just in case you are loopy ?
TidaBisa
2nd November 2008, 10:14
Thanks. Have a class I medical. Sounds like a good idea to take a psychometry test prior to joining. Appreciate the help. I guess my question relating to the medical was-- is it the astronaut physical like they do in Japan or Korea or is it like a standard Canadian or FAA medical.
I have some minor health issues(reported and documented) which have not affected my medical to date. I am concerned that I might not be able to pass the Japanese type physical.
kotakota
2nd November 2008, 13:48
No , its thorough but not astronautical , otherwise I would not be here !! Its done in-house except for chest x-rays etc , The Doc is more interested in keeping you fit to fly rather than trapping you.
maxv
2nd November 2008, 17:19
To OBI WAN KIRK:
Hi, wuold you be so kind to inform me too about the contact to send my CV to Oman Air?
I will appreciate!....Many thanks!
Max.
TidaBisa
10th November 2008, 03:01
Kotakota or anyone else at Oman Air--Do you know if MichelleP is on vacation? There has been zero response to several emails. She had responded quite promptly in the past.
ATCO1962
10th November 2008, 09:26
Just called Michelle today and she's alive and well, ready to take all your CVs.
Keep trying.
TidaBisa
10th November 2008, 12:25
Dont have her number, just the email address. I tried one other number but no one picked up. Thanks for the info, Kotakota et all.
ATCO1962
11th November 2008, 11:04
Tida,
If you want to get Michelle on the telephone, try +968 24519302 or 24519309 and ask for her
Rgds
ATCO
TidaBisa
11th November 2008, 11:34
Thanks for all the information. I finally did receive a response today via email. Appreciate all your great efforts. See ya soon:ok:
TidaBisa
14th November 2008, 04:31
Here are the latest terms and conditions for B737NG Line Captain with Oman Air.
Grade JC base pay OR 2422 = $6272.98
Pilot allowance OR 182 = $ 471.38
Supplementary Or 959 = $2483.81
Performance pay(per policy) = unknown
Housing OR 575 = $1489.25
TOTAL= =$10717.42
Additional benefits:
Education: 75% of educational costs for upto 4 children to age 19
Maximum amounts:Grade1-5= OR 1800 ($4662/yr) Grade 6-9 OR 2,500 ($6475/yr) and Grade 10-13 OR 3,200 ($8228).
Joining/repatriation baggage allowance= 100kg per adult plus 50kg per child for unaccompanied baggage.
Uniform--Provided and drycleaned at assigned cleaners for free
Accident insurance-24 times basic salary provided.
Medical-Free for self and family at approved clinics. No dental, eyecare or cosmetic treatment.
Interest free loan on joining OR 2000 = $5180.
Profit sharing-Discretion of the Company
End of service benfits (Omani law)
15 days of basic pay for each of first three years of service
30 days of basic pay for each year thereafter.
Probation-3 months. Can leave with 7 days notice or can be terminated as well. After probation 90 days required.
Annual leave 36 days with tickets to home country provided (economy)
NGFellow
14th November 2008, 04:43
Thanks TB for the informative post. Oman Air sounds pretty good as far as their terms and conditions given the equipment. Looks like they actually might be a better place rather than FlyDubai.
Anyone in the field can you answer these questions?
1. Does your pay start on day of joining ?
2. During vacation and when you are not as yet flying, do you just get the base pay or do you also get the supplementary allowance TB mentioned?
3. Is performance pay same as overtime? When does that kick in? Are guys flying overtime?
4. Anyone get the profit sharing check as yet?
5. Can you take your vacation in one block?
6. Where does the B737NG overnight? Are most trips turns and deep night to Incredible India? How many days off normally in 7 days?
7. As far as medical treatment, do they cover prescription drugs ?
kotakota
14th November 2008, 05:30
1. Yes , pay from Day 1 , that is basic and supplementary , but not rent as they provide hotel apartment for up to 4 months .
2.Yes.
3.No overtime , 'Performance Pay' is Flight Duty pay , the more you fly the hourly pay increases . Only trainers do 90+ at the moment . Numbers being built up for the approaching day when a large number transfer to A330s late spring.Expect busy times after that !!
4.Profit shares unlikely for a while , expansion costs money and oil price is still oil price !! Don't count on it.
5.New vacation system just kicking off for 09 , 46 days ( 36 +12 Public Holidays ) , divided into 2 lots of 23 days with a 'swop' system in place for chunks of 7 days or more .
6. Only a couple of layovers at the moment , in India , but expecting more as route structure extends.
7.Not sure about prescription charges -will get back to you on that . I know they will provide medication at the clinic but unsure for how long.
NGFellow
14th November 2008, 07:22
Thanks Kotakota for the information. Do you know if Oman Air will be having a class every month starting in Jan 2009 or is it every so often?
What is the training like? Do you go through a full ground school, 4-6 sims, a check, IOE (initial operating experience) and then a line check before you are released. How long did it take you to get on line from the time you joined? Are all the trainers/examiners Omani's? How are they do deal with?
You seem to have a good handle on the situation there. Many of us here in Incredible India are thinking about the ME as an option. Some colleagues have already been forced out by JetAirways.
PS--Housing allowance seems very low for the M.E. My allowance in India is almost double. And the cost of living here is much cheaper.
TidaBisa
14th November 2008, 07:54
I think the Oman Air package is pretty comparable to FlyDubai even though FlyD is actually offering more money on paper. Here are some key points for/against FlyD & Oman Air.
1. Pay at FlyD is about $2000 more a month based on 80 hrs. At first you will not fly that amount so you will not make as much.
2. Housing allowance is 3 times the allowance of Oman Air. However cost of housing in DXB is also much more.
3. FlyD offers car allowance while Oman does not. Traffic in DXB is worse than Muscat.
4. Educational allowance is more at FlYD. Oman Air will only cover around 50% of true costs even though they say they pay 75% upto a certain amount.
5. Vacation/tickets etc the same
6. End of service benefits better in UAE. 21 days/yr versus 2 weeks.
7. FlyD offers loss of license and accidental insurance. Oman only offers accidental.
8. Shipping allowance offered by Oman, not by FlyD.
9. Medical is free at Oman (only while in Muscat) while at FlyD medical is only free for employee and you pay 25% for dependents.
10. Muscat I'm told is more family friendly and a quiter place to be. DXB is a busy busy place.
I think if the ME is where you want to be on the NG then either place looks fairly promising. Housing will remain a major concern though. Expect to dip into your salary for decent housing.
in FACT is
22nd November 2008, 10:05
History just repeats itself here in QA.
A bit of history chaps:
2000 --> Algerians helping Algerians (look at all the algerians with staffnr 2XX and more)
2001 --> British helping British ( Fleming helping his mates)
2002 --> Egyptians helping Egyptians (remember the Ismael brothers, now running Air Arabia)
2003 --> Qatari helping Qatari (The reign of Hassan and Hamad)
2004 --> Here come the Indians, helping each other, under the leadership of L.M.
2005 --> Indian supremacy continues, number of Indian pilots tripple
2006 --> The end is near, Too much foul play left a stain/many dead bodies behind in the closets!
2007 --> QR is a ship without captain, but mid 2007 the Brits are there again in the role they like the most: COLONISING places!
2008 --> The resurection of the British empire in Qatar Airways under the leadership of the comical duo Ian and Bill! The Nigels at their best!
2009 --> Only time can tell! But allready the number of Nigels is rising steeply! And not on the 320 slave fleet! Nono, on the B777 off course!
Will the Brits be able to brake the Indian record of abusing this company? Will they be able to reach higher levels of personal enrichment than their Indian Brethren? How long before the CEO will see through their play as well, kicking them out on the spot!
One sad record they have broken already: That one of plumetting flight ops morale to unknown depths on the shortest period of time possible!
At least the Indian Birdy Namnam management gave us all something to look foreward to (upgrades/transfers/payrise), the Nigels do not even bother doing that! On the contrary: Hotac quality goes down, pay goes down, no more transfers, upgrades big question mark!!!
I know the Nigels like sodomy, but I did not know they would do it so bluntly! even the vaseline has become a very rare commodity these days! They just DO it!
http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/censored.gif
Above are copy from what happened in Qatar, it is nearly the same scanerio in Oman Air, the DMO (local) appointed a British as Fleet Captain, despite locals pilot complaint's and bad record of this British new guy.:ugh:
He also (DMO) without shame sack the Fleet Captain after the locals protest throught the goverment.:D
In Japan the DMO like this may take HARAKIRI because wrong decision:ugh:
TidaBisa
22nd November 2008, 15:14
I guess you are suggesting that Oman Air is not a place to go? This is one of the few negative comment I have seen here on the thread. Everyone is pretty much in agreement that they are very slow to process, almost uninterested.
Can anyone tell me who the Chief Pilot is and the key players on the NG (this week!!).
in FACT is
22nd November 2008, 18:32
I guess you are suggesting that Oman Air is not a place to go?
No I didn't but just to warn you this place is not haven, I been following this thread and I knew you are so enthusiastic to joint, maybe you are jobless at the moment, but Oman Air and Muscat just like Singapore Airlines and Singapore but SQ step ahead that the system is worked well already, There is no key player of NG here but be calm don't again so enthusiastic
TidaBisa
23rd November 2008, 11:22
Fortunately, I am well employed and so I don't have to go to Oman Air unless I really need to down the road. I am curious about what you have posted and so would appreciate if you could elaborate. It will help many of us who have not joined or are considering joining to rethink the option. In the past on this thread there has been very little negative comments and so it would be nice to get a different perspective so long as it is an honest one (goo, bad or ugly). Cheers.
chrislikesblue
23rd November 2008, 14:10
I saw in ppjn that it is required to have 750 hours on type to be considered for FO position.Is this the absolute minimum?Could they make a small exception to this?
Nevrekar
24th November 2008, 03:31
Spicejet sent a couple of B737NG F/O's to Oman Air on deputation. Some of them did not have 750 hrs in type. They were sent back. So I think that is a solid requirement. At least it was about 1 year or so ago.
in FACT is
24th November 2008, 05:43
Fortunately, I am well employed and so I don't have to go to Oman Air unless I really need to down the road.
TidaBisa, I posted in this thread about an example of one the top management in flight operation, he is Division Manager Operation, so I gues you will see how is the enviroment around flight operation.
most of pilots here are came from non speaking english country like Tunisia, Eastern Europe or Africa few came from Western Europe, Asia and Austrilia so they are not bother with PPRUNE neither to post anything
inthecockpit
24th November 2008, 05:57
Kotakota,
Can you please tell me the name of the hotel apartment?
kotakota
24th November 2008, 08:07
Hotel apartment for us was Dar El ( or Al ) Deyafa in Ghubra , just off the highway between airport and 'town' , absolutely fine for a few months , own kitchen , satellite tv , room cleaned every day , laundry service available ( but cheaper to get it done at one of the many just around the corner ) , big hypermarket across the road , petrol station next door etc.
TidaBisa
24th November 2008, 12:06
Has anyone joining Oman Air done the psychometry test. I have been told that it can be done anywhere else as long as you have the certificate of completion. I have noticed a couple of places online that offer tests as well. One in Europe offers the IPAS test for free. If anyone has any experience with this please post your experience.
It appears that something is definitely in the air at Oman Air b/c from the most recent posts there have been some negative comments about the organization at large. There has been little information posted on who the CP is, the VP of Ops etc. Are they Omani? Or are they of some other nationality which is triggering the rascist card?
TidaBisa
4th December 2008, 01:40
Whats the latest at Oman Air? They seem to be very indifferent to emails and very slow to respond to anything. Have there been any changes in flight operations lately. I was told they will be a class in Jan 2009 and one in March 2009.
in FACT is
4th December 2008, 04:42
I told you before, "quite":ugh: doesn't mean everythings is okey, they have somebody like "Idi Amien Dada":\ and KGB type security:cool:
savannah
4th December 2008, 07:31
Hello Room
Could anyone tell me the site that i can use to apply online for omanair
flight deck crew position??
atpcliff
12th December 2008, 19:35
Hi!
google...
Oman Air - Modern Vision, Timeless Tradition (http://www.omanair.aero/wy/)
They are NOT hiring flight deck crew at this time.
cliff
KGRB
Farrell
13th December 2008, 23:50
"They are NOT hiring flight deck crew at this time."
Oh, yes they are.
cirrus81
14th December 2008, 09:06
They have advertised for ATR FO on their website...what is the package and are they later on promoted on 737NG? and if yes after hoow long? and is there any exception to 1500 total time if you have more then 500 on type?
Farrell
14th December 2008, 22:01
According to the usual spin here, the ATR crews will be trained on the new jets when they arrive.
At the moment, it is looking like the CRJ or the Embraer option.
For package info, it depends on what you push for. People have managed to get more than others depending on this, that and the other.
Some have their kids school fees paid and the housing allowance is reasonable.
Things change very fast here though in relation to job offers and new payment levels etc - I am not flying with Oman Air btw - just in the loop as such.
Have one mate who passed his 73 simcheck and was told to prepare to be here in two weeks. Eight weeks later, he is still not sure what is going on.
Something I would warn you about however, is that if you are here, be very careful what you say about others when you are out and about. You are never further away than a cousin from the person you are moaning about, and the resultant dismissal can be surprisingly swift.
Farrell
in FACT is
15th December 2008, 12:24
Something I would warn you about however, is that if you are here, be very careful what you say about others when you are out and about. You are never further away than a cousin from the person you are moaning about, and the resultant dismissal can be surprisingly swift.
Farrell is like the time when East Berlin still there:{
qs104
23rd October 2012, 13:09
hi, i would like to know what is the current basic salary for capt?
ironbird123
19th November 2012, 06:27
Can some one please shed some light on why i am unable to complete the application on the Oman website? i keep getting a message about an internal server error.
Thank you
Breakthesilence
26th November 2012, 09:59
Hi there,
may I kindly ask for latest informations about:
- B737 F/O salary and benefits
- Roster
- Pension and taxes
- Upgrade opportunity
- Life in Muscat as a pilot for Oman Air
Thank you guys!
BTS
taihaola
26th November 2012, 13:37
Hi
I also look for information about captain of B737 with Oman Air.
Salary, life , promotion to wide body, rent, school etc
Thank you in advance!
NGFellow
27th November 2012, 02:56
From what I hear about Oman Air:
Salary for B737NG Capt is around $9200/Month
Housing is around $2000/Month
Widebody transition-- Don't count on it. But probably 3-5 years.
School-- Expect 75% to be paid, rest is up to you.
Life--Quiet, slow.
Current Oman guys can correct the numbers. This was from 2009.
taihaola
27th November 2012, 06:41
thanks for the reply!
Sounds really good! I applied already.
Can't wait for a reply from Oman!
:ok:
Breakthesilence
27th November 2012, 08:30
Any figure for F/O?
Breakthesilence
29th November 2012, 17:24
No informations guys? Sorry to be annoying but maybe the thread is too close to the bottom :E
EH574
29th November 2012, 21:26
Looks like they want to keep those infos well secret.... What a silence....
airtractor
30th November 2012, 08:01
FO makes about 3100 OR / month plus 600 housing.
Same perks than capt mention above.
Time to command: 5 to 7 years ( favor is always given to DEC)
Same for fleet transfer.
Muscat is great if you like the outdoors.
Good luck
giova66
30th November 2012, 13:52
Any chance for non type rated captain?
airtractor
30th November 2012, 14:19
Zero chances for non rated pilots.
Zero pension, zero taxes.
Roster expect 120-150 hrs duty per month, half of it night flights...
chrislikesblue
1st December 2012, 07:19
Do they currently hire first officers? Or just captains?
Whats the best way to apply (directly to them or to an agent) ?
kotakota
7th December 2012, 17:25
If you want jet hours as an FO , go for it , just do not ever expect a command . A few guys I knew there finally gave up , passed the EK interview with no probs , are very happy there , and are cruising towards Command while being looked after very well indeed . EK need you and want you . Omanair need you but don't want you . Go figure .
ironbird123
9th December 2012, 01:59
Dont understand how they need pilots and there are guys with type, time and very much current, and cant even get an interview. But as you said, "They need you but they dont want you.
taihaola
10th December 2012, 09:39
Has anyone had an interview after applied?
I'm still waiting for a reply from Oman Air.
John21UK
17th December 2012, 19:04
I'm looking at Oman Air as a F/O and are rated on Embraer with 3000TT.
A few questions to see if info is still current;
- monthly salary incl all allowances. (Say 60block hrs and married with kids)
- fleet transfer possible to 737NG? (Heard many stories about this)
- as per poster above it's 5-7 years before command but don't expect anything as I will be expat??? True???
- Any bond when joining?
- How are you treated? Do you have to be constantly weary of management?
- Is Oman expensive to live? Do most expats live far away from airport/city?
I heard many good things about Oman but need some extra info before jumping ship before the axe comes down.
Many thanks!!!!
7Q Off
18th December 2012, 20:17
Any Oman air NG captain here to give us some info?
Roster?
Hr per month?
Layovers?
Pay? (9200 us aprox plus housing?)
tks
ironbird123
3rd January 2013, 22:29
Anything new going on at oman air? Hiring???
kotakota
4th January 2013, 13:40
Same old , same old , shambles , shambles , never change , never change , no idea how to keep good expat crew happy , don't care about keeping ....
ironbird123
6th January 2013, 00:54
Kotakota, do you know if Oman Air will be doing any hiring this year please?
Thanks in advance
sondbird101
6th January 2013, 12:06
Looks like they will be needing a fleet captain who is soon to be replaced
Just another potential incident that makes the dailies. Diverted due to legalities? Who s writing this stuff? Indian authorities are sceptical of WYs official response.
Aircraft diverted to Mumbai to ensure highest safety: Oman Air,Muscat - Muscat Daily (http://www.muscatdaily.com/Archive/Oman/Aircraft-diverted-to-Mumbai-to-ensure-highest-safety-Oman-Air-1y9k)
ManaAdaSystem
6th January 2013, 17:42
Weird!
Did he leave with insufficient fuel to start with?
Why would a fleet captain loose his job over this, (unless he was the captain on this flight)?
ironbird123
5th March 2013, 15:49
Anything new going on at oman air?
:)
sondbird101
16th March 2013, 09:15
No one from HR gets back to you? Facts are they never come to work. When they do they bury themselves under a paper pile and play on the mobiles. Unfortunately the tide has changed for the worst. Blame the other guy tribal mentality. The day to day running of the airline is decided at the board level. Simply clueless and dangerous.:uhoh:
Better opportunities up the road. If your desperate apply.....but they know it and treat you that way. 737 carrier up the road treats the hardworking with the respect and has a future. Best decision I have made.
newscaster
18th March 2013, 00:56
Are Oman Air looking for 777s?
ironbird123
3rd April 2013, 08:32
Fellows good day, I would really like some help in making a decision PLEASE.
1. About how much is take home pay as 737 fo please?
2. Can I realistically find a decent place in Oman for $350
3. What is an average monthly performance pay for fo?
Thanks very much in advance
Ironbird
latetonite
3rd April 2013, 21:41
O
Ironbird, you look not very experienced, looking for a FO job. The only questions you ask is about money, and conditions.
I am a NG trainer. I would like to fly with you for a sector or two, and see what YOU have to offer to the paying pax.
ironbird123
4th April 2013, 03:58
Latetonite,
So you are an NG trainer, that is very nice, good for you. What the hell does experience have to do with people's PRIORITIES. Obviously you are there, you have reached and I have not. I asked three simple questions, I don't believe anything too difficult, so if you don't have anything constructive to add, then with all due respect please mind your business.
latetonite
5th April 2013, 21:48
Ok, will do that. Just try to get your priorities straight in this business nowadays. You not coming from the moon, are you.
ironbutt57
6th April 2013, 04:12
You seem to be from the moon "latetonite" anybody who DOESN'T inquire about terms and conditions if from the moon....now go home, your camel is waiting...
ClearedToCrush
6th April 2013, 07:25
I agree with Ironbutt,there is nothing wrong in asking the terms and conditions. If all of these is secret and we are not supposed to ask then why do we need this forum anyway?
latetonite
10th April 2013, 21:29
Ok, I pull back. There is nothing wrong with asking T&c 's. I just want to stress the fact, that if you apply for a B737 right seat, the people outside waiting in the queue at HR dept.,, are standing in rows of six. That is the reality I am referring to. But good job hunting anyway..
airtractor
10th April 2013, 22:58
Good point,
Regardless of your experience and the expansion, expect 5-7 years before seeing the left seat...
ironbird123
11th April 2013, 19:32
Good day all, can anyone please say who is the chief pilot or director of flight operations at Oman Air, and if so, a contact for them please?
Thank you
Boeing
Bill Macgillivray
11th April 2013, 21:05
Why not try looking on-line for the top-dogs etc.? Also, you would find nowhere for $350 in Oman these days! Anyway, good luck. It is a great country.:ok:
ironbird123
12th April 2013, 04:58
Thank you Bill
Specialised
16th April 2013, 10:41
Hi all,
Just wondering about the interview stage. I have been contacted my an agent on behalf of Oman Air that have invited me to go to Istanbul in a couple of weeks.
I wanted to know if this is their normal practice and if anyone had Info on how to prepare as all i have been given is a date.
would be most grateful of a response before I buy tickets!
Feel free to PM if preferred
Specialised
Sandrojet
18th April 2013, 21:56
Hi,
I was wondering if Oman Air is hiring at all, and if they are on which equipment.
I worked in the ME for 3 years as a corporate pilot, I have been back flying for an Airline in the States on a E175 since last year, but I'm struggling with the horrible pay I get here. I wouldn't mind going back to the ME, this time flying for an Airline. I know they have few E-175, if they need pilots, I'm available!:O
Thanks!
nbrolosy76
27th April 2013, 16:09
i have the same questions did you find out anything new ???
khaled bakr
28th April 2013, 22:29
can you tell us about Omanair interview! how did it go and what they ask about pleas . some pilots are going to istanboul for interview and they want to know how is it go if you can help , thanks.
ironbird123
13th May 2013, 03:31
Anything new going on at Oman air. Hiring ? Thanks very much
flexicuffs
27th May 2013, 22:20
Hi Ironbird,
I have a friend at Oman Air and was told they are apparently receiving an order of 6 737NG next year and will be requiring crew. Oman government has instructed Oman Air to localise their work force so they have a cadet program in place but don't vet their new cadets properly resulting in a high failure rate. All new cadets are Omani and a majority of them don't make it through to line F/Os. With exception to a few, those that do make it through wouldn't make it at other airlines without extensive additional training (spoon feeding). Because of improper screening for local cadets, Oman Air HR department has no choice but to hire experienced expat F/Os as a cover up. The HR department in Oman Air has the final say on which pilots get hired unlike most airlines where Flights Ops has the final say.
Command opportunities for F/Os are slim too due to Localising pilot work force. Current practice is Command interviews are delayed until local F/O meets command upgrade requirements to bypass less senior expat F/O that already meets upgrade requirements. Smart way for legal upgrade bypass. I hear some expat F/Os have been waiting 6 years and still no interview dates set.
Beware if you do choose to go for the interview. Some people or agencies claim they can guarantee you a job with Oman Air for a fee of 1 months salary. Suspicion someone in HR has a little something happening on the side to cashin on desperate job seekers:=
Also just heard from my friend there that everyone is pissed off with their CEO because he's being steamrolled by the chairman of the Airline to increase their staff travel fares. This is being done as a penalty for the Chairman's son not getting a seat on a flight which he checkin late for resulting in his seat being given to another staff.:ugh:This should give you an idea of how the airline is managed/operated and what to expect if you get the job.
ironbird123
28th May 2013, 02:55
Wow, man. That is really unbelievable. Thanks very much Flexi.
Scube3
23rd June 2013, 08:52
First year Cpt. Is about $9000+ F.O. Pay. Is about $7000
duty time ( $640 in a relaxing month, $1800 in a hectic month)+
Housing allowance: $1800 ( enough to find a nice place to live) for F.O. $1500.
You also get 2 blocks of 23 days vacations a year and 1 annual leave ticket for you and your immediate family)
You also get ID90 and iD 50 tickets with the major airlines which has just gone up. The company excuse is that the prices weren't reviewed for the last 3 years and now they have increase to match other airlines. For me at this moment is cheaper going home in Ethihad or Qatar than Oman Air. The pilot committee is negotiating this including other terms of the contract although I don't have too much faith on them.
The contract comes with free medical and dental insurance with 0 down but only covers Oman and countries were we fly too and at those countries in certain hospitals. If you want to have surgery somewhere else you will have to negotiate with the insurance. ( by the way, doctors in Oman are clueless, so anything serious you have to go outside of the country)
School fees for expats are very expensive! Company pays about 70% of tuition (I think) but you still have to pay a considerable amount for your kids.
Upgrade to captain takes a long time. It follows seniority. The last upgrades have been in the company for a bit over 5 years. This is do to the company continue lack of planning and continue hiring direct entry captains to cover holes. Fleet transfer two A330 is much less. At this moment seems that the company is changing their ways and giving importance to upgrading. Upgrades and fleet transfers has been announced due to the increase in fleet size in 2014 and onwards. It seems they are finally planning ahead the upgrades and organizing... We'll have to wait a see what happens.
The country and Oman Air are trying to Omanize. It's a lose battle they have and they are trying to win it. They were averaging about 8 cadets a year and now they are trying to increase to 12. It seems they have a high rate of failure so that's for the difficulty of increasing the numbers...
New cadets that i have flown with are sharp and adequate for the job.
The company it's about two start a big fleet expansion (big in Oman Air terms not in Middle East terms :) ) with the addition of 6 737-800's, and 3 A330-300's.
Also in 2015 they have orders for 5 737-900's and 6 Boeing 787's.
737 fleet has the toughest schedule of all, although it seems that conditions have improved in the last year. A330 fleet, relaxed life but be ready to spend 15 days a month away from your family. At this moment no direct entry into the 330 only upgrades.
ironbird123
30th June 2013, 03:48
Thank you Scube, just wish some hiring would take place.
Aviaservice
7th November 2015, 10:34
Hi colleagues! Please advice, Is the Oman hiring B737 Captains now?
skywalker34
2nd January 2017, 21:04
Does anyone know if Oman Air Pilot recruitment (or HR) email addresses? I know its not seems vacancies but I like to send my CV or more application Doc's.
Wish hear your soon(cause I saw all conv at 2008:) )
terroroftheskies
10th January 2017, 12:03
Anyone can highlight hows the situation like now with oman air? Thank you.
4runner
10th January 2017, 17:00
Latetonite, I see you've picked up on the "you owe me" mentality of some folks....😂🙄