2.5 years after SIA, greener grass?

[Gladiator]

It has been two and a half years since I escaped the tyranny of the rock. Was it worth it?

Was it worth leaving the world's best airline for passengers/ world's worst airline for emoployees?

Was it worth giving up long haul B747-400 for short haul B737-400?

Let us take a look at the full picture, uncensored.

Item, SQ B747-400, Other B737-400

Days Off
per month, SQ 10-12, Other 15-18

Days off
in a row, SQ 5 max, Other 10 or more

Equipment
choice, SQ none, Other yes

Domicile
choice, SQ none, Other yes

Pilot
seniority, SQ none, Other yes

Choice of
trips, SQ none, Other yes

Command by
seniority, SQ none, Other yes

Choice of
LHS/RHS, SQ none, Other yes

Choice of
overtime, SQ none, Other yes

Overtime
pay, SQ none, Other Hourly x 1.5



Hours
flown/
month,

SQ Up to 100,
Other 75 hrs, from 75 to 85 (extra pay), 85+ (overtime)


Trading
trips at
will, SQ none, Other yes

Reserve
all your
career, SQ yes, Other none

Jumpseat
privilages
(Free), SQ none, Other yes

Travel
benefits
parents, SQ none, Other yes($10)

Buddy
passes, SQ none, Other yes(free)

Career
advancement, SQ crab shoot, Other yes

Salary
take
home/ month

SQ 6.5 yr F/O, US 5,069 before taxes
Other 2.5 yr F/O, US 5,631 after taxes

Retirement
benefits, SQ Government mood, Other yes

Bonus, SQ Company mood, Other yes

Salary
raises,

SQ 3%/yr,
Other US 500/yr. After 5 yrs 22% increase

Work place
environment, SQ Military, Other Normal

Pilot
Union,

SQ Yes and no, depends on your race.
Other yes

Vacation, SQ 28 days/Yr, Other 14 days/yr

Conclusion, no brainer.

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[leGrand]

Just want to correct some misrepresentation by gladiator. SQ has those below.
Equipment choice. Yes
Domicile. SQ has London base
Seniority. yes
Choice of flt. 4 COP a year. Can request more and normally approve.
Command by seniority. By merit but seniority plays a part.
Overtime. 70-85hrs 1.5x. 85-100hrs 4x.
Trading trip. Go for mutual swap
Carrer advancement. Definetely yes. Where do the local capt comes from?
Bonus. Does not dpend on mood. There is a agreed formula. This financial year it's 4.1 minths + 1 month.
Annual increment. 4.2%.

[Gladiator]

LeGrand do you mean every pilot has the choice of what equipment to fly. Say today you decide you want a change and wish to no longer fly a 744, instead you want to fly a B-777.

Can you go to the office and bid that equipment and get it based on seniority? Another words you decide what eqipment not company. The same with the base. Can any pilot at anytime decide to go and be based in London? The answer is no. The london base pilots are not even employees of SQ.

I stand corrected on overtime and pay raises.

As for career development, I disagree with you on the issue of seniority.

Request trips four times a year? I can trade and and or swap flights from my computer at home four times a day. Four times a year is a joke. Four times a year hardly qualifies.

[leGrand]

744 to 777? Of course and it's been done. Just take the 777 pay scale.
Swap is between pilot and does not go through mgmt. No limit on number.
Request COP entitlement is 4 a year. You can still put in more and more often then not is approve.

[leGrand]

On career development, as I said, is by merit but seniority do play a part.

[A Few Good Men]

I don't think you know what youre talking about le grand. Do you mean I can go to office and ask to move to 744 or other fo can go to office and ask to go from A310 to A340. You are talking rubbish le grand.
You know very well promotion at SIA is based on who you know and if you are good at sakka.
In west terms sakka is brown nose.

[leGrand]

A few good men,
I did say move from the B744 to the B777. It's moving down and not up in term of payscale. 2 Capts have done it. I know of some fo who elected to stay in regional fleet due to lifestyle.

[Gladiator]

le grand you have missed the whole point. Choice of fleet means the pilot decides to go up or down the fleet at his chosing based on seniority. It does not matter if the pay is more or less, the company would not have a say since it is based on seniority. The same goes for basing.

The key word is CHOICE. Having a choice is a great privilege.

[VelvetStrokes]

Gladiator, CHOICE - remember that and become wise - or remain foolish - your choice

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