British Airways - Wannabes & Recruitment III

[TightSlot]

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[essjay7]

Thank you VS-LHRCSA for your reply; sorry it's taken me a little while to get back to you! Once again, thank you and a Merry Christmas!:)

[fancyflying]

Can someone please give an example roster of a month of long haul ...

how many times do you fly each week? I have been offered a job with Qantas working 4 days on, 3 days off, but they only fly to Bangkok, Hong Kong and Sinagpore ... thinking about whether to apply to BA now, or do Qantas and then after a year or so, apply ... Thanks.

[VS-LHRCSA]

There is no typical monthly roster as such. Trips range from 3 - 9 days with 2-4 MBTs after, depending on the amount of time zones crossed and local nights rest achieved. etc.

Trips to BKK and SIN are 9 days, as you continue on to SYD on both.

BA are recruiting for WW at LHR on 11 temporary contracts. Chances of being kept on within BA are debateable, virtually zero on WW. Whether or not they will recruit again in a year is anyone's guess.

If you were to turn down QF to do BA, I would be willing to bet that QF would not offer you even an interview after your 11 month contract at BA is up. If you are close to the 900 hour limit (which has been suggested) you not be able to be employed as crew for anyone for a couple of months. This would need to be confirmed though, I'm just speculating.

[JenniD]

Merry Christmas everyone, especially those in the EF holdpool, hope we get the call soon!! :)

[transwede]

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the average monthly take home pay of a new entrant WW crew member?

[Londonphilou]

JenniD, Merry Xmas to you and everyone especially fellow ex and current EF holding pool swimmers. I am sure you will be next and who knows you will get that most important call just in time for New Year! :D:D

[Portugal]

Happy Christmas to all PPRuNe Members, for all the help you give everyone who needs (despite the fact that we don't even know each other)! Happy Xmas especially to those still waiting for courses with BA, and also for those who'll be applying or who have applied for the 11-month temp position like me.

All the very best,

Portugal

[whattimedoweland]

Avoid SFG and wait if you can for LHR EF.

Good luck to anyone thinking of joining BA SFG,you will need it!!.Money,contract and management are dire.AVOID.

They can't get crew fast enough...ask yourself why?.Because so many are leaving!!.

Your choice.

WTDWL.

[DMED]

Merry xmas to you all. Merry xmas to my fellow ex-swimmers, i will see some of you in slightly more than 2 months time at Cranebank! Merry xmas to all hold pool swimmers and best luck for new year. Hopefully you will get that call soon!

Merry xmas to all !

[SD83]

Hi

Hope you all had a lovely Xmas:pI was just wondering if anyone is aware of anyone who has been kept on after there 11month contract with BA and if there is even a slight possiblity that you could be kept on. Or if you were not kept on the WW would there be a chance you could be moved somewhere else or would you have to go through the whole application process again?:}

[nuigini]

You never know. It could be LGW SF or LHR EF. Doubt very much it would be LHR WW as both the unions and many crew would not tolerate that. Many people say they will be given LGW SF but they did that last year and there were a few issues. My bet is LHR EF!

[VS-LHRCSA]

Officially, there is no chance of being kept on after the 11 months.

The last intake of temporary crew did a 6 month contract and were then offered LGW. So it could happen again but it is not guaranteed. A few of the ex-WW crew that went to LGW were quite vocal about the differences so therefore LGW management are voicing concern about taking ex-WW crew again. However, going by the recent crew shortages, they may not have choice. There is the 900 hour rule that may effect employability, which may be another reason why there are no guarantees.

It is highly doubtful that the current intake of WW temps will be kept on at WW. They would need to clear the hundreds of existing crew on transfer lists before that would happen. If there are vacanies at EF, there is no reason that they wouldn't be offered places there but again, transfer lists will need to be honoured first.

[nuigini]

Or, they could either keep on recruiting for LGW or improve the conditions. I highly doubt, if the temps were transfered there, would last any longer than those recruited straight into LGW! They would be silly to think otherwise!

Seeing they are recruiting again for LHR WW, they must have something in mind!

[HZ123]

Recruitment; also acknowledge that 11 month contracts give CC management the chance to get shot of staff that are not wanted. One of there concerns (they told me this); the quality of many new entrants is below that which they would like and this is reflected in comments made by the passengers, the position often does not attract the candidates that are commited to customer service. Additionally there is a lack of languages, which has lead to encouraging mainland Europeans to join who usually have a couple of speaks and require less criminal records checks. Some of you may agree with these comments but some may feel offended. It does not help with the dilution of t & c. Whatever, the CC role will become even more difficult as costs will need to be further cut and this will see cuts in on board services. For all of you there will be 7000+ recruited by 2011 / 2012 and this recruitment and courses will commence round about September 2008 and will continue without a break. To meet this goal BA are taking on Contract trainers to fulfill the number of training courses that will be needed.

[pollymagou]

Hallo,

Could you share your opinions and experience regarding working as Cabin crew on these two fleets?

I guess the pay is higher on WW and also it is not necessary to live near LHR, whether at EF it's easier to have a social life etc.
I know the preference is up to the individual circumstances..however it would be nice to get your opinions.

I am not sure if I had to post here or on BA cabin crew discussions.
Thanks to all

[shuchim]

hi portugal do u know how to apply for technic post in british airways and is there any cadet pilot scheme there i am from india and done my aircraft maintenance engineering .

[Portugal]

Hi Shuchim

If you go onto the website www.britishairwaysjobs.com (http://www.britishairwaysjobs.com) and search vacancies, you will find any and all positions for which recruitment is taking place. It's best if you keep checking on the website. You can also ask to receive an email alert every time a job with the key words you want comes up.

Good luck!

[VS-LHRCSA]

Pollymagou, it is very much up to the individual. WW generally pays more purely because you are away more. That said, you are paid allowances in local currency. On EF a lot of your allowances are in Euros. A lot of WW allowances are paid in US Dollars - not so great at the moment.

On EF, you have control of your life due to preferential bidding. If you want to, you can be home every night. On WW you get to travel but then there is jetlag to consider. Also for every favoured destination (eg SFO), there are the more "challenging" trips (LOS, ISB, TLV) which can be very draining.

One thing to remember is that there is the ability to request to transfer between either fleet after two years. It may take a while to come through but ultimately, you have the chance to try each fleet over a number of years and see what works better for you and your circumstances at the time.

[pollymagou]

Thanks for your answer VS,
Are there more people wanting to transfer from LHR EF to LHR WW or viceversa? On average how much higher are the wages at WW ?

[vodkaholic]

Does anyone know when the recruitment staff work? I'm desperately waiting to hear back from BA about my application, but what with it being Xmas I don't know when they will be in. Do you think it would be safe to assume I may not hear anything until Wednesday now?

Also, if the interview days they offer you aren't suitable...can you phone them and ask them if there are any other dates available when you could go to the interview? I already work as cabin crew and so could only really attend on a day off...

Thanks in advance for your help!!

[Jay_solo]

Hello,

Can anyone give an insight into how much you can make per month after tax on WW 11 month temp contract?

And do preferential bidding systems apply to WW 11 month temp contract as well?

Thanks

[tofster]

Don't know about take home pay but the only fleets that have bidding systems are LHR EF and LGW.

[spoon82]

Hi

Anybody been given a training course date for Feb 25th????

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!

[Londonphilou]

Spoon82, Happy New year to you too. You better ring for your uniform fitting as soon as possible and book an appointment. They get very busy! And do send for yr medical asap too.
Re references, they won't contact them without your permission. So you will be informed first. I suppose that will happen some time in January.
And re the cd-rom you should get that I think at least 3 weeks before starting but if you have not you need to contact them.
Re the Criminal record I dont know re for someone from abroad. You better check with them. It could be the same procedure as explained in the confirmation email's attachments. I gather you have received that already?

[Londonphilou]

Happy New Year to you all!!
Could someone tell me how many bags LHR EF crew are allowed on board? I gather you cannot check in any luggage in the hold and only on board luggage allowed? If so, I like to know the number and also the size. As there is the xmas sale, I might get them now. Thanks.

[Sweetmissy]

Hey all,

Anybody else applied for the 11 month LHR Cabin Crew position??

Let me know..

Sweetmissy :)

[Londonphilou]

Spoon82, as far as I can remember, when I got the phone call and given all info on the phone, I was told that if your references need updating, you have to do that yourself by logging in. Otherwise they will go along with what you provided them with in the first place.
And re medical, there's no appointment to be made. You just need to print off the attachment and fill it in and sign and send it off. I have been told that they will only contact you and/or yr GP if they feel there is a need to do so.
Happy New Year!

[GODDESS OF DAWN]

Big hug to you all and hope the new year brings those still swimming the long awaited phone call.

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 !!! and STAY POSITIVE !!! :ok:

DAWN :)

[DMED]

happy new 2008 to everybody. Its not long now til we start the course! I hope the wait is not too long for those still waiting :( Anybody for the course on March the 3rd?

[vodkaholic]

I have applied for it sweetmissy. Still waiting to hear!! someone I know applied the day before me and has already got an interview date, but I haven't...but thinking it might be because of the xmas period. hope so!! fingers crossed!

[CW84]

Hi Sweetmissy, I applied for Lhr WW and haven't heard anything yet. It's probably because of the xmas & new year period, but i'm hoping that i'll hear something soon. I'll keep you posted. :ok:

[vodkaholic]

sweetmissy and CW84 - what date did you guys apply?

[essjay7]

Good morning everyone, happy New Year!
I wonder if someone can enlighten me! Please can someone explain the set-up at Gatwick?
My sister worked for BA in the late 70s and 80s. She worked in what was then called longhaul at LHR and can remember BA starting to operate flights to the Caribbean from LGW, crewed by LHR staff. If I remember correctly, BA had taken over the ailing Dan-Air routes. I presume they took on the Dan-Air staff, and kept to their working conditions, pay, etc., What I don't understand is that why, over the years, BA staff at LGW weren't slowly integrated into the same BA package enjoyed by their fellow workers at LHR. I can understand retaining the status quo at the beginning, but surely over the subsequent years, as crew retire or move on, there wasn't a date when all BA crew there became part of the BA family completely.
Obviously this wouldn't have happened overnight, but like most companies who change their pay structure, there should have been a date sometime down the line when all new entrants commence on the same pay/conditions as their LHR counterparts. From reading these forums, I understand that this is not so.................why???
Why didn't the union, in their negotiations, work for this? I'm not naive to think that this could have happened overnight, but we're talking decades now and something should have been sorted out. I just don't understand why this hasn't been a priority. Or am I missing something? Obviously it would have taken some years for everyone to be on the same package, but eventually, this would have happened.
Sorry if this has been answered before; most grateful for any responses!
Thank you, one and all and a Happy New Year again!

[simon773]

with regards to the differences in pay structure among cabin crew in BA, this is a very articulate subject, not only there are differences between the two main BA bases i.e. LGW and LHR, but also among cabin crew belonging to the same one; but cabin crew in both LHR and LGW are mainline with a BA Plc contract.

[Sweetmissy]

Hey Vodkaholic and CW84

I applied on the 27th December :).. How about you?

I think they must be taking their time over the xmas period, well i hope so anyhow :rolleyes:

I'll keep you all posted!!! also let me me know, when you hear anything..

Good luck to you both!

xx

[SD83]

Hi CW84

Happy New Year to you!!!!! C you have applied now good for you girl I will keep my fingers crossed :p!!

To everyone that has recently applied to LHR WW they are normally very quick at getting in contact with you regarding int dates and I am very sure that it is because of the Xmas and New Year Period so just hang in there and GOOD LUCK to you all!!! :ok:

SD83

PS Hopefully you get out soon :ugh:

[VS-LHRCSA]

essjay7

When BA bought Dan-Air in 1991 (for £1) Barbara Cassani stressed in no uncertain terms that although rebranded BA (known as European Operations Gatwick - EOG, or EuroGatwick), the short haul operation would remain a subsidiary. If Dan-Air couldn't make money, BA certainly wouldn't, with the higher costs of the mainline terms and conditions.

This was very different to the integration of British Caledonian and British Airtours, whose crew were merged into existing BA crew seniority lists, with terms and conditions honoured.

EuroGatwick has made some headway over the years in becoming more "mainline" if you will. They were merged with BA Cityflyer in 2003(?) to become EuroFleet LGW. In 2006, the existing mainline WW fleet at LGW was disbanded, with most crew being sent to LHR. The long haul routes were then given to EuroFleet LGW to operate and thus became Single Fleet LGW. They have since become part of the NSP which means that there will be a proper system for transfer to other fleets in the coming years.

My belief that this has not happened sooner as that the company has had no legal obligation to integrate what was Dan-Air into mainline. The agreement was ratified in 1991 after the acquisition by the company and the unions. A contract is a contract and pressure from unions can't really change that unless the company agree to it after looking at other considerations, like crew morale. Like I said, this is my belief and I am open to correction on this.

[CW84]

Hi SD83, Vodkaholic & Sweetmissy,
I'm over the moon because they've invited me for an interview :D! I applied on the 19th of December, Vodkaholic. I checked my emails today & saw a message inviting me to the assessment centre. I've booked the afternoon of the 10th of January, they didn't have afternoon slots on the other two days & I wanna be fully prepared. Hopefully Sweetmissy & Vodkaholic you'll be there too so good luck & don't forget to let me know. Thanks SD83, hopefully you won't be leaving me for too long (u know what I mean) & we can have a joint leaving do :ok:.
x

[vodkaholic]

Hey guys! Well done CW84 on your good news!! I, too, had some good news today and have also been offered an interview! I applied on the 22nd December...

However, the dates of the interviews I can't make! I am already cabin crew and working all 3 of those days, how typical! I have booked a slot for 9th Jan and am desperately trying to swap the flight, so will just have to wait and see! I did phone them up though and they said that if I couldn't make the date I booked then it wouldn't be a problem rescheduling it, when they announce new dates for interviews. But they won't be doing that until the current dates are full.

Good luck for your interview!! x

[CW84]

Hi Vodkaholic,
Thanks for that. Congrats to you too, hopefully you'll be able to swap & be there on the 9th. Anyway, i'll let you know how my interview goes.
Good luck, let me know what happens :).

[annaspanner]

Hi there happy new year !!After a previous message telling me how much travelling I would have to do from Clapham I have started to look around for places to stay nearer to Heathrow. Just wondered if you guys have found anything or how the search is going !! Worst case I can still stay at my friends but think I will die from all the endless hours of travelling !! It is gonna be a very expensive 6 weeks just looking a t the cost of renting a room !! Let me know if you have found anything.Take care X

[Portugal]

Hey!
I also got offered an interview yesterday! But it's for next week! I have school and I can't get cheap flights to Heathrow... I have flights to Luton on easyjet for about 150 euros which is OK... I emailed them and told them this was too soon, I was so grateful they invited me and I really wanna go. They reassured me that I can wait till new dates come up but that they can't promise anything... But I just saw they've extended the deadline for the same position, this time until Jan 20th, so maybe I'll be able to go with that batch of applicants to their interviews? Because I have a week of holidays in the beginning of February... I don't know what to do now, should I book for next week today or wait till new dates come up...? I really want this, really bad.

Good luck to everyone else who applied, keep in touch please!
all the best,
Portugal

[Portugal]

I ended up booking the interview for Friday 11th Jan, under the fear that I may not have one so soon... I managed to find a cheap-ish flight option, now I just have to pay for it.

Good luck everyone with your applications!

[Londonphilou]

Portugal, you have done the right thing! Best get it done now and out of the way instead of taking the risk of not getting a later date. If you get through, which I hope you do, then you can take the next step re when you can start.
good luck!!

[nomdeplume83]

Hi

I'm due to start my training course in LGW at the beginning of Feb and was wondering if anyone can give me any advice as to where to look for a short term room rental or if anyone knows of a spare room for 6 weeks in/near Crawley.

[Murial74]

I can't help on the accomodation front I'm afriad but wondered what date it is you start? as I start training at LGW on the 11th Feb :) can't wait

[Sweetmissy]

Vodkaholic and CW84.... Well Done!!!! :D

I'm really happy for you guys... I still haven't heard anything... but i did apply way after you both... so fingers crossed still..

Keep me posted both of you...

Good Luck!!

Sweetmissy x x x

[Portugal]

Hey Londonphilou, thanks for that. That's exactly what I thought. Fingers crossed... I've already paid for the flight... Now just need to book accomodation.

I went to a travel agent and he found me a €56 B&B rate for Holiday Inn Ariel, which I thought is quite good (it's around £30), but I think it's closer to the airport than to Hatton Cross. Does anyone have any idea of a better place that is closer to Hatton Cross? Any help is appreciated :8

Good luck to everyone else going for an interview next week - maybe I'll see you there (fingers crossed you guys all get the interviews, and later the job that you want:ok:)

[kellymarie020]

Hiya!

i got accepted for LHR WW for the 11 month contract and i start my training on 10th March! extreamly nervous & excited.

Just wondering, the letter said that to come to training dressed smart casual.. what on earth should i wear?? any ideas??

Thanks alot!

Oh is anyone else on this course??

kelly xx

[annaspanner]

Hi kelly, Im too starting on the 10th march seems therse a few of us! I am gonna wear a suit its a bit casual but still proffesional looking for the first day anyway until I get to grips with what we will be doing. Have you got accom. or are you looking about ?? Have you done your paperwork yet ?X

[Happy!]

Hi Guys,

This might sound really silly but I've just called the uniform stores to book my fitting date and they asked for my crew number. I am not sure if I have receieved this yet? Which e-mail is it sent out on?

Many Thanks

[annaspanner]

When I called I just gave them my name and told them I was a new starter

[Happy!]

Thanks for you speedy response Anna, I was beginning to panic! The guy who I spoke to didn't speak very good English! Whens you fitting? xx

[kellymarie020]

Thanks anna!
A suit? wow thats not cuasual! thats smart! i was thinking smart jeans & top .. haha oops! guess not!

Nope havnt found anywhere yet as everywhere advertised on the likes of letalife & easy room share something, there all available now not in march! so think i may wait untill bit close to the time! do u have anywhere yet?

Not done any paper work but booked my fitting for 15th Feb. Going to look at paper work tonite & see what i can do!

xx

[annaspanner]

12th February.. soo excited !! Hows you accom. search going ? Are you still going to stay with a friend??

[annaspanner]

Its a more casual suit dont worry ! Im sure what ever you wear you ll be fine :) Ive just put my details onto a couple of sites but like you said might be a bit early !!

[Sweetmissy]

Hey Vodkaholic and CW84!!!

I have my interview on 10th Jan :ok:

Very nervous... but hey one step closer!!!!

Good luck


xx

[vodkaholic]

Well done sweetmissy!!! I don't seem to be able to swap my flight on the 9th, but the lady I spoke to at BA said it wouldnt be a problem resceduling the interview so think I'm going to have to do that...bit of a shame, but don't wanna jeopordise my current job for one I havent even got yet.

[SD83]

Hey

Happy New Year all !! Congrats to Kelly on getting your training date how long have you been waiting :D??

Anna still no luck on the accomodation front as yet but am still looking as want to get this sorted now:}. I have seen this site though crewhouselhr.com so am gonna give them a call to see what they have available for 10th for 6wks the prices aren't that bad either about £20 per day as you say it is gonna be an expensive time you are looking at about £650 for accommodation alone but all I keep thinking how worth it, it gonna be.

I have been told that you need to go fairly smart to your training so I am going to wear my suit you do get your uniform on the first day of your course and think that you start to wear it in about the 3rd wk of training apparantly.

Have any of you got your study materials yet?

[Jay_solo]

How long is the CC training and on what days of the week do you attend?

AS a temp on WW, what control do you have on your roster?

[Portugal]

Well done Vodkaholic, CW84 and Sweetmissy! I am sure you guys will be great! I have my interview on Friday 11th so guess I won't be seeing you, but anyway, best of luck!

Portugal

[VS-LHRCSA]

jay solo

Training is usually 5-6 weeks, Monday to Friday, depending how much they want to fit into the training plus trainer and classroom availability. This is not absolutely set in stone however. They have the right to ask you to come in over the weekends if the operation requires it.

As WW crew, you have very little control of your roster. You have a limited number of trip requests you can submit and you can also ask two UK request days per month, ie: days you will be guaranteed to be in the UK. Of course, a standby block or roster disruption can blow these out of the water.

[Silverwingclub]

Just got an interview on 11th Jan (am) for LHR ww 11 month contract. Anyone else that day?

[CW84]

Hi
Well done to sweetmissy & portugal on your interviews & don't worry vodkaholic i'm sure you'll be offered another one soon. I'm really nervous but i'm gonna try my best to not let nerves get the better of me :yuk:. I'm gonna buy a suit tomorrow & prepare myself for the big day. Sweetmissy what session is your interview, morning or afternoon? Anyway good luck to you all, keep in touch. x

[nomdeplume83]

I start on the 4th Feb. I've received my CD with pre course work book etc and booked uniform fitting. I still haven't had a contract or anything like that sent to me though.

[the letter]

Jay solo,

As VS-LHRCSA says, training is usually Monday through Friday (anything between 08:00 to 16:00 and 10:00 to 18:00). I'm on one of the courses that began in December and classes are also taking place in the weekends because of Christmas and New Year. Training is according to my schedule 25 days.

From what I have been told you cannot request for any trips during the first twelve months. Although, one of our trainers said they might make an exception as the temporary contract is only eleven months (but don't hope too much!).

[essjay7]

Thank you, Simon773 and VS-LHRCSA for your valued input. I understand the situation a little better now..........I think!!! I have a friend who is joining BA next month and he asked me about it. He would prefer to be based at Heathrow because of where he is living, but is thrilled to be joining BA, period. There are so many mixed messages on the forum re; Gatwick, but I think it's down to the individual to get as much out of it as possible. He's very excited! Thank you once again, and sorry for the delay in replying.

[kellymarie020]

sd83, thats great thanks! guess ill wear my suit then! havent received any course materials as yet. dont expect to get them for a couple weeks yet!
I had a cal this mornign re accommdation which i think sounds good. going to view it when im up for my uni fitting. its onlly for the training period tho which its a bit rubbish because as well as training i gots to be finding accom aswell!! arrr so much to do!

xxx

[Sweetmissy]

Thank you for the messages.. and i wish you all the very best of luck also!!!! :ok::ok:

CW84 my interview is in the morning on 10/01/08..

Vodkaholic did you manage to reschedule your interview?? Hope so..

Keep in touch

Smiles to you :):)

xx

[annaspanner]

Could anyone let me know with regards to the basic disclosure application when should we do it ?? My course begins 10.03.08 and wondered when I should send the basic disclosure app and pay the £20.

Thanks in advance for the info !!

Anna XX

[VS-LHRCSA]

Get it done now. They will be taking up your references soon and will need it all done before you start training. The disclosure form takes around 3 weeks on average.

[Have you heard this!]

Disclosures takes a matter of days now to get back. You will get it back within a week of sending it. It's not like it used to be at the beginning.

[CW84]

My Interview is in the afternoon on the 10th, so that means we are gonna miss each other :sad:. Anyway good luck. x

[annaspanner]

So if I send it now and get it back let say a week or two how long will it be valid for ??

Ive got 2 months before my course so dont want to do it too soon !!

Thanks xx

[Londonphilou]

Annaspanner, you should have been told about that when they rang you to offer you the course date. You should not do it now but do it a month exactly before you start, that is on the 10th of February. Everything is explained in the attachments with the confirmation email. If you do it now, which you can, you might be asked to do it again and pay another £20 as the first one won't be valid anymore.

[VS-LHRCSA]

Bearing in mind you are from France, you need to allow some extra time for the disclosure. Turnaround time depends on the circumstances and from an admin point of view it can take an average of around 3 weeks as I said earlier. For someone who is young and has always lived at home, in the UK, then the facts are easier for DS to verify. It may not be the case for everybody who applies to BA.

Everyone's situation is different and you really do need to speak to resourcing about this. If you are starting in 2 months, then they would be getting this started quite soon. A lot will depend on whether or not you have given notice at your current employer. You also have to factor in the likelihood of any delays in your references, any gaps that need covering, etc. Remember, they will not take up gap references until ALL of your employment and academic references are taken. The whole process needs to be timed so that all work/study references get to BA around the same time as your disclosure. Then your gaps are done, then it's off to Vanguard House for processing.

[Londonphilou]

I have only one referee as I have been in my present job since I started working..10 years ago. When they rang me to offer me the course date, the lady told me to apply for the CRC only a month before starting and not before as it would be too early. I am not sure re people from outside the UK but I believe I should do what they have told me especially I do not want to pay £20 twice. I have read some people did theirs early and they had to re-apply and pay again.

[SD83]

I was told not to do my CRC until 4 weeks before as it is only valid for a certain period think they said a month so I am not doing mine till the 10th feb.

[vodkaholic]

Vodkaholic did you manage to reschedule your interview?? Hope so..


not yet...was still waiting to see if someone might be able to do my flight, but appears not now and as we need to give crewing 72hrs notice of swaps it's now too late really. So I will give them a call tomorrow and see how to go about resceduling. But I will have to wait until they announce new dates, I just pray I can make one of those!!

Good luck on your interview sweetmissy!!

[annaspanner]

Well I have decided to do one now as I live abroad as I can imagine it will not be so straight forward. If it does come back in a week or so and therfore is not valid when I start my course then I will just have to pay again at the 4 week mark! I just dont want to risk leaving it till 4 weeks before and not getting it on time if there are any complications!! It would be just my luck !!

Anna x

[guychris]

i am thinking of applying to b.a, and was just wondering how far back they need references?? i left school over 20 years ago and imagine those references would be hard to get....do they just require a few years references or longer? any advice much appreciated....

[the letter]

Regarding CRC (Criminal Record Check). Don't do it too soon as there is an expiration date. I think it's two months! Several people on my course have been asked to do it again as it expired before they were able to issue identification passes to them! I would advise you to wait until a month and a half before your training begins. That should be efficent time enough!

References are required of the past five years.

[LU17]

can anyone give me a little insight into BA's selection process.

I have an interview with them next week and just wanted a heads up on what goes on.

also any tests like maths and grammer etc ?

Thanks alot guys.

[CW84]

Hi LU17
I was wondering when your interview is as I have mine this Thursday 11th January in the afternoon? :)

[LU17]

Hi. thanks very much for that, it makes me abit less nervous knowing what to expect!

My interview is the same -thursday afternoon.:)

[Jay_solo]

So when you get your rosters on WW 11 month temp, is it 100% set in stone? (i.e no swapping of trips or days with other crew)

[guychris]

thankyou very much, i have found my others too now so am gonna apply v-soon.....u enjoying it?

[CW84]

Hi LU17

I was actually supposed to say Thursday 10th not the 11th, silly me :rolleyes:. lol. I'm glad I've found someone else who is attending on that day. Good luck & i'll c u there. :ok:

[kayleigh87]

Heya,
I have an interview next Tuesday (15th).. Anyone out there joining me?
;)
Kayleigh

[jadejordan]

Hi everyone.. just wondering.. im abit confused as ba sent me a email today inviting me to an assessment.. but when i went on the site theyr was no slots?? do slots just appear, does anyone know if i will i have to wait? xxxx

[Sweetmissy]

Hey there,

Thank you for your message! :)

Have you explained everything to BA?

xx

[kikko]

Has anybody had anymore calls? ....heard anything at all?...
How long will we have to wait..? :bored::zzz:........

[VS-LHRCSA]

Keep checking Jadejordan. That happens all the time. There'll be more soon. Grab one as soon as you can.

[Azzuri]

Hi kikko,

I've not had a call yet :-(

The phones have been very quiet since the new year .... I really don't know when that call is going to come ...

Cheers

Azzuri

[Londonphilou]

I am sure you will get a call very soon. Thinking of you all and hope you join the rest of us soon after our training. They have not forgotten you!

[WelcomeAboard]

Hi londonphillou,


when is your course date by the way?

[Londonphilou]

Welcome, I start on the 3rd of March. Are you on the 25th of Feb one?

[JenniD]

Phoned up recruitment this morning, asked whether there were any more courses in the pipeline for EF, got the same old 'we don't know anything, you'll have to wait until one of our project managers call you' :zzz:

[Rachael87]

Hey guys, i'm new here so please be nice :)

I've got an assessment day booked for BA on 14th Jan at 0830, is anyone else attending on that date?

Also, possibly a stupid question but i've seen it around and i can't fathom it... along with the job in question i have seen the letters WW mentioned and i'm not sure what they stand for.. anyone like to help me out on that?

Rachael87

[CW84]

Hi Rachael87,

I'm fairly new here too so don't worry everyone's nice. :). Congrats on your interview, i've got mine tomorrow & i'm so nervous. WW means WorldWide meaning Longhaul i.e caribbean, australia, etc. Anyway good luck & i'll let you know how I get on. :ok:

[Rachael87]

Congrats on your interview too! :)

My mum said it might mean worldwide but i thought that might be too simple a meaning.. apparently not! Least i know now.

How much have you prepared for your interview? I want to do everything possible to get this job (hair and nails re-done for the looks side of it haha..and a lot of prep for the "sell yourself" side)

Good luck tomorrow!

Rachael87

[CW84]

Thanks for that. I've been practising possible interview questions, i've had my hair & eyebrows done and my nails are short and got clear nail polish on them. I had acrylic nails until recently but decided to let them have a breather because i have been getting my nails done for years and they are slightly damaged. Anyway don't practice too much or you could have a mental block. :ugh:. x

[Doors_to_Automatic]

It has two meanings, either World Wide or Willie Walsh who is our CEO at the moment.

Good luck with your interviews :)

[vodkaholic]

Sweetmissy - Yes, I have explained it to BA and am able to rescedule my interview!! phew! Think I will be going near the end of Jan now, fingers crossed!! This job makes it so hard to plan anything! Can't remember the last time I had a social life he he! But i love it!!

[CW84]

Thanks :ok:

[WelcomeAboard]

hi londonphilou,

I'm on the 4th Feb start, so counting down the days now. Went for my uniform fitting the other day, think it finally sunk in then!!:) Must admit the tie is a bit naff ;)

You'll be starting at T5 then, I'll have a couple of weeks checking in at Compass i think then it's all change.

[zippidee333]

Hi All

I am starting my training with BA on 10.03.08 at LHR - Anyone know of any good accommodation or any ideas?

Your help is much appreciated!!

Many thanks

[annaspanner]

HiyaI am looking too!! Proving a bit difficult this early on though but registered with a few flatshare sites. Also one of the others mentioned cabin crew house at lhr. If you put that into google it comes up with the info... about 25 squid per night but looks nice. Gonna use that as a last resort as over the 6 weeks approx really gets expensive !!

[BlueTui]

OMG surely this is a basic bit of information that you should of researched before even applying for the job.

The standard really is slipping.... :ugh:

[zippidee333]

Tell me about it!! I have seen an agency that finds places for cabin crew short term for £90 a week which I thought looked ok....

Are you working for BA as well?

[Rachael87]

"OMG surely this is a basic bit of information that you should of researched before even applying for the job.

The standard really is slipping.... "

I'm not a complete retard you know, i was just double checking the meaning.

And also, it didn't mention WW on the application, hence my asking here and not googling it or researching in other places. I read it first on here, and therefore i asked about it.

[kellymarie020]

Hi im starting my training on the 10.03.08. i put an ad up in letalife.com for free. i had a call from someone and i got a room for 100 a week. includes all bills & phone calls, internet & breakfast!!!, furnished too! so get on there and put an add up!! explain that your looking for march ect ect!!

hope that helps!! :O

[CW84]

Hi guys

I had my interview today & it was not as bad as I thought It would be actually. I tried to answer every question the best I could so I hope I did ok. I tried my best, was entirely myself & that's all you can do at the end of the day. They said they would contact me in 5-7 working days with the outcome. If successful, a possible start date could be as early as March. So fingers crossed. Good luck to you guys, keep me posted. :) x

[Silverwingclub]

Were you am or pm CW? I was there am and wondered if you are Charlotte?

[b77]

Hi All

WW means world wide, good luck with your interviews etc, i wont be suprised if they bring some courses forward as we are so short of crew.

[Sweetmissy]

I got it!!!!! got an email at 0800 this morning...

I haven't got a course date yet, but i hope it won't be too long... :confused:

Annaspanner and Kellymarie? how long did you wait to get a course date?

Good luck to anyone else applying... CW84, how did you get on yesterday??

:ok: x

[TightSlot]

Folks,

This forum is intended for working Cabin Crew: Some time ago it was nearly over run with wannabees, and for that reason the wannabee threads were established to be a source of information for those seeking recruitment. It would seem that the wannabee threads are now being used for a sort of social networking function instead.

You need to be very clear on this - If your post does not contain concrete fact about the recruitment then it has no business on PPRuNe - anywhere: This means that any of the following stuff is not to be posted...

Facebooks, blogs, I'm so happy for you, woohoo I got it, wish me luck, send me a PM, msn me, will you be at the interview, follow your dreams etc. etc. All of this should be done by PM on PPRuNe (if you must - we'd rather that you didn't use our server space for it) or by Text Message - in fact do it anyway that you want - BUT DON'T POST IT ON A THREAD.

[Londonphilou]

Could anyone please let me know whether the bag we are allowed on board has to be the same size as the passenger one? Or does it not matter as far its not huge?? Thanks.

[atmosphere]

At the end of the 11 month temp contract they are offering L/H Cabin crew from LHR..... how llikely is it that you would be kept on? do you get given to Euro Fleet, or sent to LGW.. or just given a P45 and a thankyou!?

Any help would be greatfully recieved.

Sphere

[VS-LHRCSA]

If you go back a few pages in the BA threads, there is a lot of talk there about what is going to happen after the 11 months. It's a difficult call to make really. Prepare to be let go, so that if you're offered anything after 11 months, it will be a bonus. Don't forget, you could always do another temporary contract if they're offered in the future.

[skywatch77]

Can someone please tell me whether it is true that BA won't let you start until all references are in? I have quite a few from when I was studying years ago and also when temping and casual work etc??

have previously worked for two airlines and they had no problems getting my references etc but I was allowed to do the training whilst they sorted my references out.

I'm not worried about the last two years because I have been in the same job but I am worried about the previous 3 years and hearing about how disorganised BA are, I hope they get my references in time. I will personally chase them up myself if I have to.

[VS-LHRCSA]

They have just outsourced the referencing, so hopefully that will take some of the pressure off recruitment staff and help get things speeded up for new applicants.

Technically, you're not supposed to start training before you get your references sorted out. I know some who have but in a lot of ways, it is better for everyone to not start until they are done. If you were to start training and your ID is not ready when you finish training, you will have to sit at home on basic while waiting for your ID - not ideal on a 11 month contract.

If you wait until your references are done, you can do your training and go straight online and maximise your earnings for the 11 months. I know it means waiting but at least you can stay in current job, earning your current pay, which surely has to be more than cabin crew basic.

[blueskybird]

hi everyone :8:8

im going for my uniform fitting in a couple of wks and was wondering what happens if you lose weight and your uniform no longer fits properly, can you then go back to the uniform stores to get smaller sizes ?? or do they expect you to have it taken in by a seamstress at your own cost?? :confused::confused::confused:

i know its a bit of a random question but im hoping to lose 2 stone over the next 6 months so just thinking ahead really.

cheers :ok:

[annaspanner]

I looked in the uniform booklet the staff receive (I know someone who works for BA already) and it says up to 25kg but no dimensions are given that are specific to either Eurofleet or WW. I have brought a 73cm length tall one as I will be away for longer on longhaul flights. Think thats not really huge but big enough !! I did ask the uniform woman on the phone and she said that we have the same size as pax and the size I have seems ok. Maybe someone else can clarify further for you as I am on LHR WW Anna XX

[JSmiths]

I was wondering if anyone happens to know if there will be more interview slots up for ba lgw as I am still to book one? And is anyone in the same boat as me?

Thanks

[nuigini]

Still again, BA puts a lot of money into recruitment and training so I highly doubt they will let go of those temporary crew recruited for 11 months. They will either get LHR or LGW (LGW I doubt as the transfer from WW to SF in 2006 was not too successful).

I also know of several people who have started training but not had their references completed. If it's for the 11 months contract, you would be better off (as previously mentioned) if you did have it sorted out before you start training!

[Doors_to_Automatic]

Basically on WW you will be checking in a suitcase into the hold and you will need a smaller bag for the cabin to keep cabin shoes, gilet, paperwork and anything else you may need onboard.

On LHR EF I beleive there isn't the option of checking in a bag (correct me if I am wrong) so you will need to get a wheelie bag that will fit into an overhead locker. I'm sure that you may be able to find dimensions on BA.com.

At LGW SF you will always check in a bag on shorthaul or longhaul unless you have no liquids over the 100ml rule and they all fit into a clear sealable bag (a bit difficult with some girls make up) and this I'm sure applies at LHR. You will again need a cabin bag for onboard.

[annaspanner]

Just been looking at all the destinations BA flight to from Heathrow. Just wondered how does a 'normal' or average month look (if there is such a thing !!?)? Do you get many flights to the same places or is it a real mix?? Would be interesting to know also the approx amount of time you stay at the destination for? I appreciate that does depend on the length of time you are on a flight etc.. but just for a rough idea !! Any other info on this subject would be fab !!!Cheers Anna XXX

[VS-LHRCSA]

It really has been covered in other threads but basically, there is no typical month. In a month you may do a 9 day BKK/SYD, a 3 day SEA, a 5 day JNB, etc. The combinations are endless.

The only thing you can count on are back-to-back trips which come along every 28 days. These are two trips together, with a night spent at LHR, eg:

1 LHR-JFK, layover
2 dep JFK, night flight
3 arr LHR, layover at LHR
3 LHR-JFK, layover
4 dep JFK, night flight
6 arr LHR, clear
7 off
8 off
9 off

Personally, I hated them and was taken off for medical reasons. I worked best on 4 day trips that left on a Monday, that way you got the weekend off.

Trip lengths vary from 3 days to 9 days, layover length depends on flight times and frequency of the service. The shortest is 18 hours. Days off after depend on trip length and time zones crossed, the minimum is two.

Every now and then, a short-haul trip may be operated by WW crew, eg: Lisbon for football on the 747. This would be a day trip and you would get the next day off because of the T&Cs. Doesn't happed very often and I managed to avoid it.

[racheldebuitleir]

any existing BA crew that could tell me how "do-able" you reckon it is to work from London and live in another european country and commute to london for duties?

[VS-LHRCSA]

Well, I did it from the states, so europe should be a doddle.

Around 30% of crew commute. You need to do it from somewhere were the flights are easy to get on with a staff travel ticket and low seniority. Places like BCN and NCE can be tricky if you are new but if you plan ahead and check your loads, you can do it.

You won't have staff travel for the first six months, so you will need to consider that. You also have to factor in standby duties which you may have to do from home, or in a commuter's case, from a B&B or a friends house.

Commuting is only really possible on WW LHR. You can do it at LGW but you are at the mercy of how successful your bidding is. EF LHR, is also tricky for commuting. People do it but again, you are relying on good bidding.

[racheldebuitleir]

wats WW and EF?

[kellymarie020]

just wondering!!!! where is every one getting there uniform shoes from? court shoes, no more than 2.5" heel, no patters, leather etc!! looked around and nothing! only found one pair but the heel was 2.7"!! please help

thank you in advance!!

[racheldebuitleir]

ah ok, brilliant thanks. And how much time in advance are the rosters published/distibuted or whatever way it works in BA? In my company now they are published for one month ahead but we get them in the middle of the month for the following month which actually only leaves two weeks in advance if you know what I mean? so im just thinkn are trips planned well in advance so that commuting could be planned well too?

[TightSlot]

There is a huge amount of information available here already, that answers all of your questions on this, and the other threads that you have started or posted on. You can use this information by first reading it, and then thinking about it - if either of these processses are too difficult for you, then please consider your own suitability for this job.


And don't bother with sassy back chat about nasty mods either - it won't paper over your own laziness.

[annaspanner]

I have found a pair where I live but I have heard that Marks and Spencers have a pair for 15 squid that are perfect. I am getting one nice pair for to and from the aircraft and the pair from M&S for in the cabin as apparently they can get a bit ruined and scuffed !! Hope this helps!Anna X

[kellymarie020]

thanks!!!x

[kopap9]

Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me...I have my assesment in 5 days (not the interview), the one with the team-exercise and the short test (??) and I was wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of things to expect. What are the exercises like, is there any psychometric tests and how hard are they...how about the team-exercise, what's the scenario? Generally, just some info...
thank you all.:ok:

[kellymarie020]

your assesment is the interview. let me find what i sent to ssomeone as a personal message about my assesment day and i will post it for you!

[kellymarie020]

ok this is what i sent as a reply to some one in your position but they were scared with the maths tests etc.

"I didnt have to do anything like that for mine, i was completely suprised!
I went in the morning and got measured etc then we got seperated into groups of like 5 or 6 then my group went into this room and we sat around a table. One by one we had about a minute to say some things about ourself, like 'hi my names kelly im from devon, and i said i have just bought 4 new tropical fish'. Thought that would be easier for ppl to remember! ha. listen carefully if you have anything like that, as i was tested on what every ones names were! Then we had 20 mins to discuss about some holiday senarios and put things into order with a budget. But what their looking for more than completing the task, is for communication, were ur able to take it in turns talking, puting your point across without over powering the group. Then we had a little talk all together with the other groups. THEN i was shocked to hear my name being called out. It was my interview!! That lasted about 45 mins and i was asked lots of questions where i had to tell them about a time i delivered excellent customer service etc. just make sure you practice every senario you can think of. I was practicing the whole day before with a friend and even before leavin for the interview. This really helped. so glad i practiced!

hope that helps and good luck!!! xxx "


I hope thats what your looking for!! :ok:

[kopap9]

Thank you very much, especially about the part with the "surprise" interview. Have good flights, hope to "see" you on-board.
Thanks again. :):)

[annaspanner]

Hi can anyone tell me after the initial first day start time of 8.15am, does the time change after that or is it pretty much 8.15 every morning as I am planning to fly in early on a Monday rather than having to stay in London on a Sunday night !! Thanks in advance !!Anna X

[randomair]

Girls I see a few of you are looking for shoes for work. Try out www.shoes4crews.co.uk.

Black shoes with extra cushioning and extra grip soles for I think £17.50..inc postage and packaging and all that.

cheers randomair

[VS-LHRCSA]

Generally speaking, the class times can be set by the trainers after consulting with preferences of the trainees BUT this will need to be done with every class and can't always be guaranteed.

You will have trainers for:

Customer Service
Avmed
SEP

They will all have differing styles and may not want to, or be able to accommodate changes to the schedule, especially with training rigs which are in demand all day long.

I'm not sure if flying in on a Monday morning is the best option. You will need to allow a good half and hour AT LEAST to get from T1 or T4 to Cranebank. If your flight is late (being LHR there is every chance it could be) then you may be stuck. Remember, this is your training and there are demerits issued for lateness.

[annaspanner]

Thanks for the advice !! Anna X

[moonchild]

Hi!
Can anyone give me some advice?? Been offered an assessment for LHR EF or LGW if I want to wait a few months. Does anyone have an idea of the kind of roster you get with EF, days off and average salary as I want to commute back to Paris and not sure if it would be possible. Already fly short haul now so not sure if I will just be going for more of the same with EF and it would be better to wait for LGW where you get a mix?
Thanks!

[VS-LHRCSA]

At EF, if you were to commute, you have the same issues that you would have at LGW, so with that in mind, you may as well take EF if it's being offered. Both fleets have bidding, so you have input into your roster but there will be times where you have to stay somewhere local, eg: standby or there-and-backs. If you were to join EF now, you would be ahead of the game when it comes to transferring to WW which is very well set up for commuting.

[moonchild]

Thanks for your advice! From what I've read LHR seems to be slightly better for t & c anyway. If you have any idea of average pay it would help me make a final decision as I get paid quite well now but work extremely hard for it!
Many thanks again!

[Sweenster]

I also would like to know about the average pay you get at EF.

Thanks

[kellymarie020]

Hiya, just wondering, i recieved my contract yesterday!! yay woo!! :O Reading through and in there was a booklet on members clubs etc. Are new cc members joining these clubs?

Then also, it may be me being, silly but i read about the intranet you can access but no mention on how to enter it form home? Any help would be really apreciated!

Thanks in advance!! xx

[Silverwingclub]

There's just about every type of social activity available within BA clubs. You say it there's a section for it! It used to be that if you were attending an inter-airline competition BA would supply free tickets to attend. I went to a tennis competition in Florida once with it last time I worked at BA. Not sure if it still applies.

You will get access details to the intranet when you join. Gives access to staff tickets, hotlines, rosters etc etc.

Hope this helps

[Londonphilou]

Kellymarie, yes you may join the ba clubs once you start I believe. And we can't have access to ba intranet yet as we will need our staff id number in order to do so. I believe all will be sorted out during the training.

[BunnyInTheAir]

Hi,

I have recently been offered the chance to have an assessment for LHR EF if I don't want to wait for LGW vacancies in a couple of months' time. When I asked by e-mail if the EF position was a permanent position or on a temporary contract, I was told that it was temporary only.

As I'm looking for a permanent job, I didn't ask how long the temp contract was for, but hope this helps with deciding which position to be assessed for.

Cheers!

[VS-LHRCSA]

That is really strange, as nothing has been mentioned internally - at least as far as I know - about temps at EF. I know they've been offering interviews to those waiting for LGW but I didn't realise they were for temp positions.

There's nothing on the job websites, internal and external, either. They must have something up their sleeves.

[Have you heard this!]

What is it with all these temporary contracts? I can't see BA finishing you at the end of it but does anyone have any thought as to where they will send you at the end or will they just keep you where you are?

[VS-LHRCSA]

This has been covered a lot already in previous posts. This is really unchartered water for BA. Just because they kept on temps in the past does not mean they will do it this time. There are a lot more factors now (eg: possible strike action, 900 hours, LGW joining NSP, etc).

If you were to do a temp EF contract, they could keep you on or send you to LGW, depending on where the vacancies are. If there are no vacancies, or you have run up your 900 hours, then they will not keep you on.

If you do a temp WW contract the same applies. The only way that you will be kept on at WW is if there are vacancies. These vacancies must be offered to the 100s of people on the transfer lists, so this will be highly unlikely - not impossible - but unlikely.

[Have you heard this!]

VS-LHRCSA

Thank's for that. It may have been covered before but it's like looking for a needle in a haystack which is why it is easier to ask the question.

So basically it's a gamble as to whether you'd get kept on or be re-located to another UK airport.

Do BA ever advertise a Cabin Crew job which are permenant?

[VS-LHRCSA]

Recruitment for LGW has always been permanent. They were advertising about a month ago and had offered interviews to too many people. Now these people are seemingly being offered interviews for a temporary contract at EF, which does seem odd.

They recruited for EF back in April/May last year. These were permanent contracts but many people that were recruited have only now begun training.

The last time WW recruited for permanent external applicants was in 1997. They have had some temporary campaigns in the last couple of years. Most were offered LGW after 6 months, I understand only a few remain. Going from WW to LGW was a shock for some and this did cause problems which LGW management are careful not to repeat.

[Have you heard this!]

VS-LHRCSA

Thank you. You have been very informative.

[Sweenster]

I've had the same email about being offered an interview for EF but I'm wanting a perm contract so might just wait. I do know they have got dates for LGW but only the managers know what they are and they say they do not know when they will be publised.
Does anyone know that works for LGW if they will be recruiting alot more cabin crew or will it just be a few?

[annaspanner]

Hi once again I have a few questions Can someone tell me how long before a longhaul flight do we have to be at the airport/work for ?? If we are commuting are we able to travel in our uniform? (I am coming from France)Also do you know if we will receive discount with Natonal Express coaches?Once we have our ID 90 after the six months, will we receive discount with the other airlines ?? (My friend said something about this but just wanted to clarify) in particular Air France?Thanks in advance Anna XX

[VS-LHRCSA]

From memory, report time is around -80 however depending on the terminal however the report times prior to trips will be changing with T5. The actual flight time doesn't really matter when it comes to rosters, it's the report time that you need to work to. You should generally arrive a good 20 minutes before your report time. You can commute in uniform, in fact you are not allowed to check your uniform into the hold, you either carry it, or wear it. National Express will give you a coach card when you get your staff ID, you will receive a discount but it's not a huge amount. Most airlines will offer staff travel after 6 months.

[annaspanner]

Ok thans for the info VS-LHRCSA, do you know the quickest and easiest way for me to get from Gatwick to LHR?? Is there anything that BA have eg staff bus?? Just a query otherwise its good old National Express for me !!!Cheers X

[Portugal]

Hey guys, I'm sorry I haven't replied sooner, but everytime I tried to reply on the thread, it said something about me not being able to do so :s
Anyway I want to let you know that I went for the interview on Friday 11th January in the morning. It was a great experience just being there and getting the feel of BA's professionalism etc. I was one of the last people to go into the interview, so I was one of the last to leave. I actually really liked the interview, because they gave you the chance to really show what you had to give - even though it is nerve-wracking! A the end of it, I thought I wasn't going to get the job because I'd pointed out the negative aspects of being crew, e.g. "loneliness within a crowd syndrome", etc. But when I got back to Portugal that evening at 11pm, I checked my emails on my phone as I got out of the plane. Turned out they had emailed me 3h later saying I had the job! I couldn't be happier, but the thing is, I'm not too sure if I can accept the job, because I already have a place to study Management at LSE (London School of Economics) in September, which would mean I would have to take a gap year (that is, if the university allows it). Anyway I want to thank everyone on here for your help. I'm also wondering whether there's anyone else out there from my interview? Because I didn't get a chance to exchange emails at the end...

Thank you everyone who helped me, and good luck to all of you applying! Just be yourselves and you will be fine!

[nuigini]

Report time for duty is 90 minutes before departure.

[wiggy]

Sorry to interfere in a Cabin Crew thread but as a "Nigel" who commutes from France via LGW to LHR ( still with me?) could I add:

National Express no longer offer staff discount on the LHR - LGW service. You can however buy a block of ten open single tickets for 99 STG :oh:
Journey from North Terminal to T4 takes at least 45 minutes, LGW to Central Area at least an hour...much more on a bad day. ALso allow plenty time to transfer to Compass Centre - hopefully it'll all be simpler/slicker when we report at T5.

There is no formal BA shuttle bus (unlike Virgin) however you can sometimes thumb a lift on the occasional BA buses shuttling crew beween the two bases...but don't rely on it. Once you're on line you'll often as not find someone on the crew who is driving in the LGW direction after the trip so you may be able to get a lift.

Re travelling in uniform - An absolute "No No" on Air France, but you can get away with disguising it( though that's contrary to BA rules so I couldn't possibly recommend it:ok:). Yes, we do get discounted tickets with Air France. Uniforms not a problem on BA flights. I must admit I haven't seen the ruling about not putting uniform in hold baggage (VS-LHRCSA's comment) - that's a new one on me and if it exists it must be a Cabin Crew only rule...

[MrMyTravel]

Dunno if this has already been discussed....i had an interview for EF and it got cancelled last year. Anyone any idea if they are gonna open it up again soon??

[kellymarie020]

Hiya, just wondering, do we get paid for the training?

I heard that we get an "allowence" but what is that allowence?

Do they give you enough pay to cover your living expenses for the month. Going to be so skint if they dont!!!!

Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Kel x

[VS-LHRCSA]

You get your basic pay for the first month as you will be training and not flying, so therefore you won't receive any allowances.

Your second month will be slightly higher as you do some flying after you training, so you will receive around half a months allowances provided your ID is ready when your course finishes.

Your first real pay will be month three.

[Pax Agent]

VS-LHRCSA please only post what you know to be entirely correct. Do you fly for BA??
Ok in answer to your question you are always paid your basic however BA also give you a training allowance. This is less when you are training at LGW but when they send you up to LHR the allowance goes up for the week and a half you are away. It totals approx £300.
So in effect month one and two do have allowances on your payslip but budget for basic + £150 for months one and two.

[kellymarie020]

Yes ill be starting with BA on 10th march where Il be training at LHR, not flying yet!

So am i correct in saying i will be getting my basic month salary plus an allowence for training? or is it just basic salary, not allowences till i start flying?

thanks!

Kel

[kikko]

Hi,

I' m getting a bit confused on this matter...

I will be doing my training for EF LHR in a couple of months.
During the 6 weeks training will I receive any money at all in addition to my basic salary?
If yes, how much?

Thanks!!:)

[VS-LHRCSA]

PAX Agent.

I was never paid a training allowance and as far as I know, allowances are only paid if you are training away from base. This would not be the case for someone someone based at WW training at LHR.

I've never been a paid an allowance for:

Ad-hoc Manual Handling Training
Recurrent SEP
OOF

I was however paid an allowance for my FIRST training as this was held at Waterside and I was LGW based.

I am happy to be corrected if something has changed recently. I go out of my way to help people on here and I do not appreciate being disrespected on an open forum.

[DMED]

hello guys!
I am starting my EF initial course in a few weeks and i am a bit worried about one of the references. I have got all cleared but one. This one in particular is causing me trouble since they refuse to give any reference. They cant be bothered because the human resources team is disgusting. This is also a spanish company and in spain they are not used to provide references to other employers. So, my question is, does anyone know what happens if you can not get a reference from one of your past employers? Can you cover the gap somehow? Has this happened to anybody when getting refs for BA and can tell me how this can be sorted out?

Thank you very much for your help,

[kellymarie020]

sooooo im taking it as you get ur basic salary only, UNLESS i am training out of main base being LHR for me? so if i have to go LGW for a while training then i will recieve allowences??

thanks to every one helping

[Londonphilou]

KellyMarie, you won't have to go to LGW at all for your training. All will be done at LHR. Re allowances, as VS mentioned, we will only be paid our basic salary with no flying allowances as there wont be any flying involved during our training. May be there might be some small hidden allowances, like if we have to come in over the week-end, I am not sure. May be someone who started EF/WW last year can enlighten us more on that.

[jwilli11]

Hello everyone reading hope you are well. I am starting my training for LHR SH in mid march. Have been waiting patiently for my training date for 9 months so am looking forward to starting.

Would like an honest opnion about commuting (driving) from Bournemouth flying short haul have checked out threads and typical rosters I think I will be just fine and have found good accom, would be nice to get advice from anyone doing this I enjoy working hard but don't want to kill myself!?!

Also strange one but have been thinking about what and when you eat when flying? Of course you need to eat but I guess you can't take your own ham sandwiches on board! So whats the deal from anyone that would like to advise I am a strick fussy vege who likes marmite on toast!!!

Many Thanks, Jo :rolleyes:

[teacoffee]

Hows the money now AMS??

[kellymarie020]

thats a good insight AMS! and thanks to every one whos helped with my querie!

Does anoyone know what pays like for ww crew with flying allowences? I seen it in previous threads but no one has ever really gave any estimate figures, just said basic plus about £500. but that dosent seem much to me!!

EF Fleet seem to get paid great money. do they get paid more than ww as they do alot more flights or can it work out roughly the same as ww do longer flights??? does that make sence?

kel

[Pax Agent]

VS I wasn't trying to disrespect...just jet lagged and at the end of my tether with LGW crisis at the moment. Everyone is trying to jump ship as quickly as possible!
Well when I joined we were paid training allowances and at LGW we always get paid for our training whether it is at our home base (i.e premium academy) or SEP at braincrank!
Plus the allowance increases when away from base i.e overnight allowances.
Once again this is what I was paid in 2006 - apologies VS but please let this one go by. :ouch:

[VS-LHRCSA]

No worries, Pax Agent.

I know what you mean about people leaving LGW. I was there for years (albeit WW LGW) and I watched the base fade into a shadow of it's former self. We had 45 long haul routes there, then 25, then 9. We lost the 747 and the 767 - along with a lot of allowances.

Part of my current job is to deal with the aftermath of the LGW crisis. It's frustrating because it was so easily avoidable. That said, I would love to come back to LGW. Right now, they won't release me :sad:

[Rach-G]

It all depends on how you bid as to how much money you receive in allowances. I've copied my total allowances from my December acheived allowances, which are:
BID PERIOD TOTALS: NON-MEAL: 841.55 MEALS: 1252.44 GRAND TOTAL: 2093.99

So total allowances for december were £2093.99 this is plus my Basic salary. As I bid for 3 day trips followed by 3 day trips I'm away alot and only seem to do 1 there and back a month, The least I've ever earnt is £1600.00 After tax including allowances the most I've taken home is £2400.00 and on average My salary is around £1900.00 per month. Hope this helps. By the way I'm Main crew at Eurofleet Heathrow.

[VS-LHRCSA]

DMED

I would say that probably most people reading your query simply don't know, or wouldn't want to venture an answer in case they are wrong.

My advice would be to call BA, or if you are using the new referencing website, call the hotline 01159 685 352. They would be the best ones to speak to.

You would think that a personal reference would do but it would be best to have this confirmed by the referencing company.

[Flyfairy]

Could anyone please tell me if they know when BA would next be recruiting or if they know of any other airline that maybe recruiting at the moment for this summer?

Thanks:)

[VS-LHRCSA]

BA are recruiting for temporary cabin crew flying long haul at LHR. The contracts are for 11 months. Check out their website. You're probably better checking out individual airlines for recruitment details. Most of the UK based airlines seem to be recruiting now.

[Flower Duet.]

For you week and half at LHR you get £ 320, and about ref. the security company is very strict as there is a lady from my course still not flying !!

I started the 12 November 2007.

[kellymarie020]

ok thanks! its good to know the moneys a little higher than i originaly thought but i guess ill find out about everything when i start training!

kel

[Sweenster]

Do BA have a max height i get told they do and they don't, can anyone please advise me?

[VS-LHRCSA]

Hi Flower Duet

Can I clarify with you:

You are LGW based
You did SEP at LHR for a week
You received an away from base allowance of £320
You received no other allowances for the customer service training.

Sorry but this has kinda thrown me. Did you do AvMed at Hangar 6 and did you get an allownce for it?

Cheers

[Flower Duet.]

This is what I found on the BA website :

To be a minimum of 5ft 2in (1.575m) and a maximum height of 6ft 2in (1.86m) in height, with weight in proportion, such that the ability to perform all job functions is not hindered.
The ability to, whilst facing forward, walk and fit comfortably down the aisle, fit quickly through the overwing window exit, and to fit into a jump seat harness without modification including closure without a seatbelt extension

:ok:

[Flower Duet.]

Hi there ,
Im gatwick based and I got my basic pay and for our week and half.
which was Wed-friday and then monday-friday the allowances where to cover our meals at the hotel as we are not LHR Based crew.

So it was my basic wage plus £320.

Customer service is at hanger 6 and also AVMED and the only
SEP we do at Hanger 6 is the aircraft visit 737 :ok:

[VS-LHRCSA]

Thanks Flower Duet, that's what I thought. To summarise my understanding:

Someone based at LHR, who does ALL their training at Cranebank (LHR) will not be paid allowances as there is no need for them. They are not staying overnight anywhere and are not having to purchase meals from hotels, which is what allowances are fundamentally for.

If you are LGW based and do your SEP training at Cranebank, you will be given a hotel and allowances because it is away from base and you will have to in theory purchase your meals at the hotel - just like on a trip.

Sorry to sound pedantic and I'm open to correction but I think it's important to clarify this so people can have an awareness of the financial implications of training, that way they can budget in advance.

Thanks again, Flower Duet.

[moonchild]

I was never told the contracts for EF were temporary! I hope you are wrong!

[Sweenster]

Moonchild they are def going to be temp like the WW.

[moonchild]

Thanks sweenster! I guess I will wait!

[spoon82]

This really does make me laugh....

Just had an email from BA saying that they are trying to get in touch with one of my references. The place where I worked (back in 2000) has been sold and the company no longer exists, so I provided them with my manager at the time´s personal contact details.
They sent me an email saying that he gave me a reference but he no longer works there, so I need to send them the telephone number of the company???? My ex-manager told me he clearly explained to them the company no longer exists.....so how on earth do I supply them with a contact telephone number.......???

..it gets better, they then say that I should chase up another reference as they dont speak english...Im sorry but whoever said it was an obligation to speak English in Spain???? Surely BA must understand that we dont all live and work in the UK and if they need references from other countries then find people that speak other languages to work in recruitment. My references will be in Spanish because guess what........this is Spain.


Is this how BA works??

[747-436]

Just had an email from BA saying that they are trying to get in touch with one of my references. The place where I worked (back in 2000) has been sold and the company no longer exists, so I provided them with my manager at the time´s personal contact details.

Why do they need a reference for as far back as 2000?!?! I thought you only needed 5 years of references to get an ID Pass??

[spoon82]

I started with that company in 2000 and left in 2006.

They only need 5 years but my start date at this place was more than 5 years ago.

[kellymarie020]

I have a problem with mine too.

i worked at a place for 2 months and never got a payslip... after many requests! then they done a runner and dissapered! no information on the inland rev side as they wernt paying my tax & ni!

Then i work at a place for 10 months and they shut business over night and do a runner! still havent heard from them 10 months later! and they still owe me a weeks wages!!! for the last 6 month of employment i wanst recieveing payslips as they were suposedly "changing accountants"!!! as u can quess that never happened too! as the IR have no details of me it looks like i havent been working for the last 6 months of emloyment!
I have such bad luck sometimes!!!

Just have to wait and see!!!

[Londonphilou]

Spoon82, if you read the FAQs about references once you log in to view your submitted application and referees' section, you will see that its the Department of Transport who needs all those details in order to issue you your ID pass. If they have asked your ex-manager to provide the number of the company although it does not exist, just give it to them. Surely your ex boss still remembers the number or must have some sort of document with the number on it. At least they will have something to work on and eventually find out that you are telling the truth. As for the Spanish speaking only referee, its a tricky one. I suppose you will have to find another one or ask BA whether you could provide a character reference instead. I had to provide a character one as I only have one job reference. Good luck.

[Christin]

Hello,

Does BA phone your past/current employers or they do write/fax them?

If they phone it might a bit of a problem for foreign employers who may be able to understand a respond to a written document but not necessarily be able to speak and even less to understand spoken english

Do you know which way they go about it?

[Christin]

As Londonphilou said if you give them exact name of the company includin g tel numbers they may trace it as being a company that ceased trading, they may also find out whi the directors were. In England it is possible simply by goinf on company house web site and I am sure there is the equivalent in Spain.
Kelly, your ex employers acted illegally (it's an offense not to pay nics etc) and you should report them expecially if you have worked there for a 10 months period.

[Christin]

Hello,

Is it too late to leave the uniform fitting appointment to 1 week before commencing training? As I am abroad I would rather avoid to come to UK just for that. I am a standard size , I worn uniform before and normally I never needed to make adjustments etc.
Would it be too late?

[kellymarie020]

yeah i should but as the owner went bankrupt i doubt i will be able to do anything about it. i spoke to the company dealing with the liquidation and they just said they made a note of it.

[DMED]

Hello Christin

Yes, I think a week before the training course starts is too late. I live abroad myself and I am going to the UK next week just for the uniform fitting !! Leaving it to the week before you risk not having your uniform when required to wear it in the training course and that may not make BA trainers very happy! But this is my peronal opinion.

[annaspanner]

Hi there,
Initially when I booked my uniform fitting I booked for the 3rd March and my course begins on 10th March. I told the uniform person on the phone and she said it was ok as you dont get your uniform until approx a couple of weeks into the course. I have had to change it to another date as something else has come up on that date but just to check I would call the Uniform Store number to be on the safe side.

Hope that helps !!

[Christin]

Thanks Dmed and Annas

Still don't know what to do...
Does anybody here who has already starting training at LHR knows for sure when you need your uniform during training.?

Has anybody had their unifrm fitting 1 week before training?

pls help!

[spoon82]

Christin

I start on the 25th of Feb, I originally had my fitting for the 15th Feb, I called Uniforms and they said it was better for them if you could have your appointment earlier, then theyve got more time to get the uniform ready.

I changed mine to the fitting to the 8th, I dont think there is any rule set in stone about when you have to have it done.

Hope that helps

[Londonphilou]

Anyone who has aleardy started on those dates might want to give us a little feedback how it has been so far. Anything you want to share with us who are starting soon. And are you given a lot of handouts/manuals to take home on the first day? Thanks.

[the letter]

Don't worry about uniform fitting! I had mine eight days before I started training and I know several people on my course weren't able to get a date for fitting before training and had to do it during! Not a problem at all!

As for references, they will contact them by post. Also, in some cases, by fax.

On first day of training, they will give you a handout, personal learning journal and a couple of documents. Be prepared by the end of the course you have loads of manuals, books and paper!

[VS-LHRCSA]

One good thing about BA is that they don't make you fly around with those manuals. That should be a welcome relief for those who have come from charter.

[Londonphilou]

Basically you are put in a room with 4 or 5 other candidates and you are given a scenario or an issue to solve or discuss, for example mine was a tour operator who had a list of complaints from its customers and compensation money to be shared among them, but we had to decide who deserves to get them and how much they should get too. It was something like this but you could get any other scenario. Anyway, this exercise is carried out to see how you work as a team. They are not looking who has got the best idea or who is the clever one. Thats where your communication skills come into play. Before you start the excercise, you might be asked to introduce yourself to each other and say something about yourself. You can say whatever you like. Do LISTEN what others are saying as you might be asked in the 2to1 interview to say something about your team members. At least remember their names. And they might also ask you what were your contributions in the exercise and how did you feel etc. Hope that helps.

[WelcomeAboard]

Hello all,

I'm starting very soon and was wondering how people were getting on who are already on the course? I think one started last week if so hope you are enjoying it?

Lopnphilou been for the uniform fitting yet?

Also to add to the above answer try to remember a few details about the people in your group (ie, in mine someone was a keen golfer, another loved asian food etc...this shows at the interview that you quickly picked up on small details that can make a difference when talking to a passenger)

[kikko]

Hello!

Hope you've all had a good start...and you are enjoying your training, I immagine you must be really busy at the moment and possibly not have much time to visit PPRUNE....However if you ever do just keep us posted and tell us how you're doing.

All the best to all! also the ones will be starting soon;)

[Londonphilou]

WelcomeAboard, my uniform fitting is scheduled for the 12th of February.
Was going to apply for my CRC on the 3rd of Feb, that is a month exactly before I start but I got a call today and they asked me to apply for it as soon as possible. So I have just done it and sent off everything that was required.

[moonbeam7]

Hi i've just been told that i'm in the holding pool for Gatwick - anybody any idea when the new courses will be?

[CCL1]

Hi,

I know this has probably been asked but what are they telling people at the interview will happen at the end of the 11 month contract, if anything at all. Does anyone already working for BA have any ideas. Problem is I'd be leaving a permanent contract to go.

Thanks.

[Silverwingclub]

Definitely no guarantees at the end of 11 month contract. Worst option is 'thank you and goodbye' best position will be an offer of either Gatwick or Heathrow S/H. Something in the middle would be ground based jobbie i.e. Customer Service Agent or another 11 month contract. Lots of flights being canx due to no crew, so everything to play for!

[VS-LHRCSA]

Yes, this has been asked many times. I have copied and pasted my answer to this from 27DEC07.

'Officially, there is no chance of being kept on after the 11 months.

The last intake of temporary crew did a 6 month contract and were then offered LGW. So it could happen again but it is not guaranteed. A few of the ex-WW crew that went to LGW were quite vocal about the differences so therefore LGW management are voicing concern about taking ex-WW crew again. However, going by the recent crew shortages, they may not have choice. There is the 900 hour rule that may effect employability, which may be another reason why there are no guarantees.

It is highly doubtful that the current intake of WW temps will be kept on at WW. They would need to clear the hundreds of existing crew on transfer lists before that would happen. If there are vacanies at EF, there is no reason that they wouldn't be offered places there but again, transfer lists will need to be honoured first.'

If you ask the at the interview all they can say is that it is an 11 month contract. It's a bit of a risk but worth it if you get a permanent contract.

[Londonphilou]

CCL1, I first applied for EF LHR permanent back in 2005 and I did not get it and it was not until last April when they started recruited again for permanent EF at LHR. In between that time I could have applied for temp EF or WW at LHR but I was not going to risk leaving my permanent job for a temp job. So I was lucky this second time although it was a long wait and it was made longer after I got the job to wait another 7 months to get a course. But I did not mind waiting as temp is not for me. Some people dont mind taking a gamble and I think its up to you really. In the past LHR WW temps were offered perm LGW as there were vacancies there. I understand it has been made clear that there's no guarantee of a perm post after the WW temp contract. Saying that you never know they might offer you perm EF or LGW but not perm WW as it will be against the unions agreements. To be eligle for perm WW you have to start with perm EF first. And LGW people can tell you more re new agreements coming soon where LGW crew will be eligible to transfer to LHR EF/WW.

[CCL1]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks very much for your replies. Certainly given me lots to think about.

[Rachael87]

can anybody tell me what the BA policy is on jewellery? More specifically rings. Is it just engagement/wedding rings only, or are you allowed a ring on each hand? Just to clarify as its my birthday soon and my grandma wants to buy me a ring. i dont want her to waste her money if i won't be allowed to wear it.:bored:

[G-MEDA]

Has anyone been invited for the assessment day on 4th and 5th feb? EF LHR

[kellymarie020]

ive heard a little about this 900 hour rule. and im not sure what it means? :ugh: could anybody give me some information?

Thanks

[VS-LHRCSA]

In the EU, cabin crew can only operate up to 900 hours within one year. If you start getting close to 900 hours you will be rostered less flying which will damage your earnings. LGW crew are especially vulnerable to this as they have less time off between trips but it does affect LHR crew as well.

There has been speculation that the WW temps will be rostered high hours which will mean they will reach their 900 hours by the end of the 11 months and will not be able to be kept on but I personally don't see how this is possible when you will only actually be flying for 8.5 months (plus 1 months leave and 1.5 months for training adds up to 11 months). I guess it's something to be aware of and will be explained during your training.

[kellymarie020]

arrrr i see! ok thats great! recieved my 1st part training today! so better get on with that! thanks!

[landlady]

Kellymarie - how long was it after you had received your initial e-mail saying that you had been successful that you were offered a place on a training course? My son has just been accepted, and was wondering what was the average wait for a place on a course. I started flying 34 years ago and things were very different in those days!! Thanks, and I really hope you enjoy flying - BA is a great airline.

[VS-LHRCSA]

It really depends on the fleet and the operation. I waited two years for EF and then moved to WW in 8 months. Somes have waited 7/8 months for EF while others have gotten WW (temp) straightaway or within a few weeks. Bottomline, WW temps are probably going to go through the system quicker because their sole purpose is to allow movement of manpower around the fleets.

[spoon82]

I noticed on CC.com that the training course starting on the 25th of feb is a mixture of LHR EF and Gatwick crew.

Is it normal for BA to train groups who are at different bases?? I suppose the training is the same for both bases!!

Anyone else on the 25th??

[Londonphilou]

Spoon, there are two groups on 25th of Feb but one from each fleet/base.
The EF will be at LHR and the SF is at Gatwick. They are not never mixed as far as I know.

[VS-LHRCSA]

No, not mixed but courses can run parallel to each other. Cranebank is a big place with many training rooms. Parallel classes can also be run at Hangar 6, too.

[kellymarie020]

landlady, i had my interview on 8th oct and got my sucsessful email 2 days later. i then had my training date just before xmas and i start 10th march. so it did take a long time but its coming so quick now!!

hope he does well!!!

[moonchild]

LHRCSA are you saying that you waited 2 years after you accepted the job with BA for a training course for EF? Or you just waited 2 years before you transferred to EF from a different base? And then you just waited 8 months to be transferred to WW from EF? Just trying to get my head round the fact that they interview for jobs for EF and then people have to wait so long for a course! Not sure I would want to accept a job, they contact my present employer for references, I lose my job because of this just to have to wait so long for a course date! Confused! Sorry!

:confused:

[landlady]

As I understand it, BA do not contact referees until a course date has been offered and accepted. Thankyou for your reply, Kellymarie - if my son enjoys flying as crew as much as I do, then he'll be fine. In my long and varied history with BA I would say to everyone that things change minute by minute, and nothing is set in stone. If you roll with the punches, do your best in the job that you were employed to do, then the world, as they say, is your lobster!!

[VS-LHRCSA]

Moonchild, yes, I applied, was interviewed, accepted and then told that there were no courses and would have to wait. The wait dragged on for two years. I was called out of the blue and offered EF LHR. I then moved to WW LGW in 8 months. I could have gone to WW LHR a couple of years after that but chose not to at that stage.

When I applied, it was not base specific. They were sending people directly in WW LHR, WW LGW and EF LHR. There were some people who were sent to WW LHR and forced onto EF after 6 months, others managed to stay. By the time they got to me, all direct entry to WW LHR had stopped. This was around 1997/8 if I remember correctly.

[Londonphilou]

Moonchild, don't panic! :)
At the interview, you will be told about what to do if you get offered the post. Basically when you are offered the job, you should not hand in your resignation UNTIL you get a start date which is normally given at least 6 weeks before. Some people get it 2 or even 3 months early. It varies.
And your referees won't be contacted either until after you have been given your start date and you will also be notified prior to that.
As far as the waiting for a course is concerned I think the 2 years wait was an exceptional one. It could be some weeks or months. I waited for 7 months but that does not mean it will be the same this year. I only handed in my resignation two weeks ago and my referees have also just been contacted at the same time.
Is the EF post temp or permanent? Just take one step at a time and everything will be fine but be prepared to wait. Good luck.

[Christin]

Hi,

Do you know approximately how much time you have to allocate for the uniform fitting appointment? Do you have to wait long or you are dealt with at your app. time? Will 1 hour be enough?
Got a train to catch.. ..
Thanks

[kikko]

Hi,

Do you know when cabin crew will be reporting at T5? From its opening?

[airbus777]

hi kikko,think we start reporting there in may,read it ages ago in the "cabin crew news"so cant quite remember!until then we continue to report at compass.

[airbus777]

p.s anyone wanting to apply for BA Eurofleet Heathrow it has just opened up again until 20 feb.

[annaspanner]

As the WW Longhaul is only on a temp basis, are we able to apply for the Eurofleet job (perm) whilst in the 11 month period ??

[moonchild]

Thanks everyone for your help. Londonphilou I was told first contracts were temp for EF then told that they were perm! I wouldn't go for a temp one anyway as I don't want the insecurity of a temp one with financial commitments. Will just have to wait and see what happens at the interview anyway...

[Londonphilou]

All the best! Yes definitely go for it. Glad its permanent. Hope you get an early interview, then you will be among the first to get a course, assuming you get through, when they start offering them.

[the letter]

Annaspanner, not really sure but there are a couple of rumours that say WW temps will be offered EF after the eleven months.

[kellymarie020]

I've just received my insight part 1 and the letter said i have to bring swimwear! is a bikini ok or are they expecting a lovely all in one?? :eek:

[flyer55]

340 new entrants will be online by end of march and then transfers from LGW to ef lhr will commence from april '08

WW temps more likely to be offered LGW than ef lhr

[VS-LHRCSA]

How many are coming over from LGW? Any idea what date of joining they are working down to. Glad to see movement at last.

[dollydaydream]

"I've just received my insight part 1 and the letter said i have to bring swimwear! is a bikini ok or are they expecting a lovely all in one?? :eek:"


Bear in mind it is a test of your swimming ability - you will also be putting on a lj in the water and heaving yourself into a life raft, and I mean heaving.

[the letter]

Probably not. I don't think they will go through once again what they experienced in 2006 when WW were transfered to LGW.