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pilitio
26th September 2007, 18:41
As we all know that Gulf Air stopped recruiting new cadets, the whole process has been held by Bahrain Development Bank (BDB) with association with Clark Aviation in Pampanga (Philippines). The bank offers educational loans up to BD30,000 to study in any flight school, and brought Clark Aviation to do the assessments for their candidates. Clark aviation has perfect training facilities and provides professional training simulators and ground school study environment.

Today a seminar was organized by the BDB which was supposed to clarify everything to the selected candidates and help them make their mind to choose whether to take the loan or not. Unfortunately, the seminar was more into negative points about Clark Aviation and created suspicious thoughts in their applicant’s minds.

The main concerns about Clark Aviation in the Philippines are that they still did not register their training aircrafts under the Philippines authorities. In addition, they need to approve their authorization with the Philippines authorities to be able to issue the MPL by end of the training. Moreover, the school has to improve its accommodation facilities to be able to accommodate almost 40 Bahrainis who would be sent by the BDB.

So, Clark Aviation!!! I guess these things must be clarified as soon as possible. Otherwise, you guys will be losing an investment of BD1.2 Million!!! A whole batch of 40 students will be diverted to another school maybe in Jordan or anywhere else.

The MPL course has a perfect curriculum and based on smart flying training including A320 type rating. The only thing is to make sure that Clark Aviation in Pampanga can provide the full training and secure issuing the MPL for their students.

pilitio
27th September 2007, 07:24
You are right, there are many unanswered questions about the MPL.. my advice is to wait till december as a group of Gulf Air auditors are going to check Clark Aviation and hopefully if they come back with good results the school will be approved by Gulf Air and the BDB will recommend the choice. About the MPL, ICAO approved the license and no one can deny it. Plus, when it comes to the type rating, I have one question: what does the basic flying in small aircrafts help you with during the type rating? I guess nothin..

TZZ
27th September 2007, 07:56
so our cpl/meir should go in recycle bin i guess if its going to be mpl.

yowdude
27th September 2007, 15:23
what does basic flying do in a single engine aircraft? it gives you a real flying experience. when flying a real airplane you experience the real fear that will keep you thinking and on the ball.real planes dont have the FREEZE button your simulator conviniently has.:}

Che Guevara
27th September 2007, 16:48
Interesting thread this one. The bank seems to know more about pilot training than anyone else apparently by choosing an unproven school to teach an unproven method to obtain an unproven and questionable licence etc. I must admit I find their arrogance or is their ignorance truly astounding. Interesting to know which 'expert' is advising them.

Just some fruit for thought from IFALPA....

The general opinion of the pilot organisations is that the current proposal represents a very real threat to safety because it downgrades the training quality standards and is driven mainly by economic interest.

Good luck MPL wannabes :hmm:

TZZ
27th September 2007, 21:54
is clark aviation JAA approved.

InTrGYYZ
27th September 2007, 23:29
I'd like to wait and see how the 1st group of CIA perform after they are set to graduate this December. Guys I agree with a lot of what you're saying but again, from my flying experience buzzing around in a light aircraft in Southern Ontario, in uncontrolled airspace, to me i feel like 70-80 hours is more than enough in a single engine airplane. Your training is highly dependent on where you do your training, for you mates that are doing it in Europe, yes I agree you seem to gain more experience on the ground since there is a higher volume of traffic in the cities, whereas if you see some of the uncontrolled airports at Mantoulin island (in Ontario, Canada) is pretty much a waste of time since you don't learn anything new, after the first 50-70 hours of flying.. Just my opinion :ok:

As per the MPL, I think lets give it a chance, see what happens with this new training method. Only time will tell :)

Cheers

PPRuNe Towers
27th September 2007, 23:53
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=291455

Ayla
3rd October 2007, 13:43
Hi firstly I must tell you that I'm the Chief Ground Instructor at Ayla Aviation Academy in Aqaba.
My advice to all you potential Bahrain pilots take the time to research properly all the flight schools that BDB approve. It is an important decision that you are making and taking on a large loan only to find out youve done the wrong thing would be a big mistake.
Your aim is to gain employment with an airline, probably Gulf Air. Find out for yourself which school gives you the best opportunity to do that. As a student you should also be looking for value for money, this may not always be the cheapest option! I wish you all the best and keep asking the questions until you get the answers you want.

alpha12039
27th March 2008, 04:46
Please click on the link below to see the audit result of Gulf Air of Clark Aviation sometime in December 07.



http://www.upload66.com/file/16338/GulfairAudit-pdf.html

alpha12039
28th March 2008, 22:52
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=281010&page=15