Gulf Air staff suspended

[.Aero]

Taken from today's GDN.

MANAMA: Eight Gulf Air employees, that included Bahrainis and expatriates, have been suspended and referred to the Public Prosecution over fraud and embezzlement charges, sources told our sister paper Akhbar Al Khaleej last night.

Any idea who or what roles these individuals had? Would it be safe to assume the eight worked in the pink palace? :hmm:

[Al Fakhem Snr.]

About time....Is LS included in the lot?

I would suspect most would be from procurement, must be a follow-up on the MK affair.

[Capt Hair Y Balls]

Anyone care to name and shame? Would be interesting to know who the culprits are.

[.Aero]

Procurement! haha We all know how that department works!! But your probably right. According to GF careers website, theyre looking for a VP of procurement :}

[fab40]

How about the Housing department? Do you think they finally found them guilty? Or Airport Services and all the 'under the table' dealings for excess baggage and upgrades??:D

[pilot A380]

Staff in airport services not deal under the table :=

[left_to_first_class]

Maybe staff in Oman don't deal under the table but the Bahrain airport services lot do.

[kwachon]

A few names here....:}

[kwachon]

A few names here

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=194856&Sn=BNEW&IssueID=30188

[left_to_first_class]

On the front page of the GDN it says four GF staff to be charged.
Anyone have more details?

[pilot A380]

I'm sure that there is such a happening at the airport in Bahrain, Muscat

[Al Fakhem Snr.]

Wether it is ground services or procurement this is a problem endemic to Gulf air.

Procurement deal with larger amounts and I am sure they do the same there.

Suddenly though all these corruption scandals and I am surprised that no one knew of them before? or did they?

Therefore anyone involved in Finance and governance should be shown the door, because no action in this regard is equal to action, which means that they all actively participated.

And I mean everyone, in case you could not read above. Good to read that finally some Bahrainis are taking over key posts in HR and other places.

Names please...

Lee! Suck on this mate!

[Che Guevara]

Good to read that finally some Bahrainis are taking over key posts in HR and other places.


Yeah, really qualified ones for the positions too.....:rolleyes:


Bahraini, Ahmed Al Banna is leaving his current post as Labour Ministry Assistant Under-Secretary for Training to become Gulf Air's vice-president human resources.


I'm sure he has more to offer than nationality, surely ;)

[Krinkle]

Al Banna was in charge of Bahrain' National Employment Project (NEP) - a two year plan to get Bahrainis into work and was widely regarded as having done an excellent job.

Most people that I know can't believe he is going to Gulf Air because they anticipated he would turn up as a senior government minister before too long. I'd imagine thatthe fact they have put him in HR is due to his knowledge of labour issues and that you can take from that there will be a fair bit of traffic in and out the airline during his tenure.

In short - if you ever meet the guy, and I'm neither family, friend or acquaitance having just met him professionally once or twice, you will wonder what the hell he is doing at GA. You're lucky to have him!

[Che Guevara]

Thanks for opinion Krinkle; if this is the case then we are lucky to have him on board. Of course, father time will tell all, either way.
Good luck to him!


Chao

[knowsup]

Just another day at the palace. More firings and more resignations. The observation that there were many that knew who did nothing is far worse than those who did the stealing is spot on. Everyone should be removed from the departments who are at fault. Abrupt and callous yes...but how else do you get to start fresh? If its not legal....don't do it!! New catchy slogan.
Wake up we are the joke of the Middle East and Europe. Branding til the last breath will not help unless a complete overhall is performed. Not only do the staff want to see substantial changes but our pax do as well.

On the brighter side. Not as hard to find a parking spot before a flight at HQ. The lot is half empty at the best of times.
Can anyone start the count of how many VP's it takes to run an airline of under 30 AC's? Seems to be a new one every week.

Knowsup:8

[Trader]

Perhaps they tapped the new VPHR to overhaul the HR department. It sure needs it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rip it apart, cut it right down (it is a HUGE dept), reorganize it.........

[EagleY]

The four were charged with embezzlement and the case is not related to the Jeddah eight.

seems like allot of people milked gulf air to death and now it's time for the remaining heads to roll.

[gulfair_sexy]

how about the others......... capt salimi , HESH , ex vpo and A.alansari ............they still around....?

[TZZ]

i think they all are still present.

[Al Fakhem Snr.]

How wonderful! It is always refreshing to know we are well looked after and that the corruption chain has not been broken. This is what makes Gulf Air so special.

:E

[Capt Hair Y Balls]

I wonder if the ethics commitee will look into the activities of ex-vpo and the rest of the mafia bunch or will just the small fry pay the piper

[brassbut]

Sorry but call me stupid!

What makes the ethics committee so ethical, have they been bathed in clorox before being assigned?

Same !!!!, different day as far as I am concerned, why were none of them capable of pulling the alarm when the train was already going?

Or is it now tha the allegiances have changed and their commitment is different?

[Spirit]

As long as you have guys, who are connected, and guys, who are on the take, my bet is nothing will ever change.

From a distance it might look good, but once you are up close, absolutely nothing will have changed.

I don't mean to appear apathic, gentlemen, but it will always be the same down here, so why waste time discussing it?

That a few people get picked up by the CID, is only for it to be made to look good and efficient. Have no illusions, though: It's all just make believe!


Nuff said,
Spirit (now with sunglasses) :cool:

[stupidimbecile]

My question is:

Who is on the ethics committee?__________________________

On what basis were they chosen? OK let's this one and the other one and that one too!

Did they not know of or participate in the previous tendering/contract processes? They knew, they participated and turned a blind eye to previous tendering and contracting.

So what is the ethics committee for? (This is my question by the way just in case I lost you there!)

[sharpcommand]

Come on boys the ! ethic committee.....they don`t know the meaning of the word ...never have done & never will .... Thats the way they do business down there
Form a circle with the wagon train!!!

[left_to_first_class]

Kroll is the forensic fraud company that has been appointed by the board to investigate any allegations. They are the one who set up the website so that staff can report any fraud or corruption.
Kroll guys investigate and pass on their findings to the board. Its up to the board then to act, such as pass onto the CID.

I am of the opinion that Kroll will investigate what they want but the proof will be if any high profile personnel are caught and prosecuted - and that will be the decision of the board (who knows who they may protect).

[.Aero]

Received my letter from GF today inviting me to report questional behaviours of individuals, suspected financial misconduct, theft and fraud. The letter was sent from procurement haha what a joke! :}. Think it's been sent to all GF suppliers and trade partners.

Here's a short quote.

" As part of its restructuring programme, Gulf Air management is working on several fronts to rectify and revamp its current systems and practices, so that professional and transparent work ethics are followed in the company."

[stupidimbecile]

So who is on the ethics committee?

Hesh?

[gulfair_sexy]

Hesh + Aab

[stupidimbecile]

who is aab?

[Che Guevara]

Interesting article on the BBC today for what its worth:


Arab states named as more corrupt

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44140000/jpg/_44140139_muscat203.jpg Oman's score suggests a "serious" level of perceived corruption

An anti-corruption group says three Arab states are among a dozen worldwide where corruption has seen a significant increase in the past year.
The Arab nations named by Transparency International were Jordan and the Gulf states of Bahrain and Oman.
The Arab countries with the least perceived corruption were Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.
Places with a history of civil conflict - such as Burma, Iraq and Somalia - were rated the worst for corruption.
Doing Business
The survey ranked 180 countries on a scale of one to 10 based on the perceptions of business people and analysts.
The best were Denmark, Finland and New Zealand.
Bahrain was 46th with a score of five out of 10, while Jordan and Oman both scored 4.7 to be equal 53rd.
Last year's rankings gave Bahrain a score of 5.7 (36th position), Oman 5.4 (39th position) and Jordan 5.3 (40th position).
Scores below five indicate "serious" perceived levels of corruption, the agency said, while scores below three reflect "rampant" corruption.
Separately, the World Bank's annual Doing Business report put Egypt at the top of the list of reformers who had cut red tape and improved trading conditions.
Cairo greatly improved its position with reforms in five of the 10 areas studied by the report, the bank said. It had slashed minimum capital requirements from E£50,000 ($8,950) to E£1,000 and halved the time and cost of start-ups. It also cut property registration fees, and set up one-stop shops for traders at the ports, and cut import and export times

:ouch:

[SCATANA]

At least we're in the top 12 of something :}

[stupidimbecile]

What a load of bullocks this company is the shame of the industry in the world, shame on bahrain for letting it happen, I am disgusted!

The best have left you or are leaving and now what? No one is willing to come and work here anymore, please put the key under the door!

[Capt Birdseye jnr]

So if Hesh is on the ethics committee, that means he will ensure the spot light remains off him and his antics.......

[brassbut]

Exactly!

So what's new?

Nothing as far as I can see.

[Capt Birdseye jnr]

Meanwhile, Hesh continues to be protected along with the other members of this elite club (and we all know who they are....)whilst the smaller fish get fried, Kroll continue to waste GF money and investigate under the pretence of cleaning up the company and getting rid of all the corruption which has been allowed to continue for years:confused:-yet the real villans remain safe and protected--your right-`whats new`

[brassbut]

This is what has beset GF and maintained where it stands today the airline with a cold store mentality pretending to be a hypermarket.

The problem is even the hypermarket in Bahrain is nowhere near hypermarket standards in the region let alone world wide.

Yet our friends in the BOD and MC think they are well above that, like the Michael Kents of this world who come from some bush area in OZ and pretended he knew everything about Inflight, and on and on and on.....They think that they are beyond comparison.

However we are no one to judge them and the market has started to take action where it hurts the most.

BOD, let it be known that the competent warned you but you did not heed the advice and carried out with an immature management team, lacking in the most basic skills needed to head an airline pretending to be of world class renown.

Unfortunately for those who remain, GF has missed the train not once but several times to become the infamous airline of the Gulf that no one wants to fly.

So keep your crooks, rapists and pimps to feed the urges of your despotic and nespotic who will remain nameless but whose reputation has now crossed the boundaries of ephemerical fame.

[HELL BOY]

Gulf air gulf air, i belive all what gulf air facing right now is from the HR so pls can any one tell me how there is some staff jumps from GRD.6 TO 11 in one day. are they are stars....:cool: or what. HR should be changed.:D to make Gulf Air do batter.

[HELL BOY]

What the hell is ethics committee ????????:* what they are trying to do. Gulf air is in shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhit:oh: with all this kind of new names :confused: Ethics lap lap lap lap ... why they just turn the compeny to low cost airline :ok:

[HELL BOY]

WITH ALL RECP. TO ALL BAHRAINI GF HR ITS BEEN MISUSED BY BAHRAINIS SO RIGHT NOW WHAT KIND OF CHANGE THEY WILL HAVE ...:rolleyes: ITS THE SAME GULF AIR HR DEP. NEED TO CLOSE DOWN,:E

[Capt Birdseye jnr]

Couldnt agree more with you, GF HR department lets face it they dont know there arses from their elbows-how many more times do they have to screw up-but thats whats happens when you put people in places they have no idea about..........but hey lets face it 50% of GF is acting-Its a shame the BOD dont realise the only `show` to come out of all this acting is a third rate soap- it would certainly give coronation street a run for its money............oh how I miss UK TV.........:E

[knowsup]

How do you spell out of control? A-C-T-I-N-G? W-A-S-T-A?
This is just the ones who have made the cut to stay that are planning for theim and their buddies for grades and positions when yet again a real PCE arrive. Ethics committee please take an obvious look at who exactly jumps 2-3 grades since the Gang arrived.
Hesh appointed and supported by PCE-Gone. Hr lady appointed and supported by PCE-Gone. Lee S appointed and supported by PCE-jumpship. VP technical -jumpship. Who with any experience is left? How are decisions made for promotions? Please do tell. We would all like to know if we are qualified, I for one would like to be Captain is it as simple as booking an appointment and ratting out colleagues to become a captain?
Same crap just different nationality. Bring back Hogan!!! lol

[HughT2]

is this ethics committee the same thing as the "integrity task force" i've heard about? was hisham on that before he went on leave?

[Capt Birdseye jnr]

The ethics committee is an independant board who are being paid loads of money to gather information which will then be presented to the BOD or in other words the `integrity task force` it is they who will then decide who they want to persue and kick out and those who they want to protect this evidence will then be sweept under the carpet as usual...

[salahabuali]

The ethics committee?

What ethics? When the majority of those on it's board were aware and even participated in the previous management scams?

GF, will be GF, until proven otherwise, practices and ethics aren't going anywhere and neither is the airline.

In the case of the ground staff inolved in the scam I would have fired everyone up to the VP, because it simply shows incompetency at every level, this pracitce of shielding some and berrating others is show only.

[salahabuali]

maybe a littel reading will help? This sounds so much like what naf and his team need to read!
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