RAN in breast op row

[snapper41]

Not aviation, but still...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6997316.stm

[The Helpful Stacker]

It happens in the RAF too.

A female supply Sgt I used to work with had a breast enlargement done through the RAF. Cracking job it was too.

Of course with a little joined up thinking we could probably have re-used some of the tits at HQSTC rather than buying implants externally.;)

[Arm out the window]

It certainly sounds like one of the most 'creative' uses of taxpayers' money by a government organisation!
I'd have thought that if someone had such insecurities about their body they couldn't function effectively in their job, they'd either not be accepted in the forces in the first place, or out pretty quickly.
It has to be a total shonky.

[Seldomfitforpurpose]

AOTW,

Those very 1970's leadership skills are just what we are trying, but it would seem often in vain, to get rid off. Not valuing our folk, which is what you are implying is why we are in the shabby state we are in today, and 4 grand, in the big scheme of things is a pittance to pay to to ensure a chap/chapess can bring their best to the party, no pun intended :rolleyes:

[Airborne Aircrew]

Seldom:

By that logic I think all the men should be applying for their penis enlargement... Come on, all the spam I get says it isn't even going to cost $4000... and that:-

in the big scheme of things is a pittance to pay to to ensure a chap/chapess can bring their best to the partyIt's not a "70's leadership" issue. By your argument I can sign up for a few years in with no other intent or commitment than to get my titties enlarged which I can't get any other job good enough to be able to afford. People like you will protect my "right" to do that by making sure that it is as difficult as possible to terminate me because it would "infringe upon my rights"... Then, as soon as I have pretty titties I can get out...

That is nothing more than socialist claptrap and is a poor reflection on someone who claims to have spent 30 years taking Her Majesty's "shilling" and seems to think he is smart at the same time. You can have one or the other, but with that kind of thinking you can't have both...

[Arm out the window]

Seldom, I also think people should be valued to help keep them in, and retention bonuses, pay rises, conditions of service improvements are all legitimate ways to try and do that.
This, though, is a different matter. People are all different shapes and sizes and often have issues with body image, with or without sensible grounds.

Q: How does the size of a woman's breasts affect her ability to work and lead in the defence force?
A: It doesn't, unless they're at the opposite end of the scale and give her back pain or make it uncomfortable to exercise.

Q: How did the breast size issue become a problem in the workplace? Was it people teasing the women about it? If so, that's a harrassment matter, and should be dealt with as such.

Cosmetic surgery is fine if you want it, but unless it's a medical necessity to have it done, it's not a legitimate use of taxpayer's money, in my view. I know plenty of people who think they're not as physically attractive as they'd like to be, but it doesn't affect how they do their jobs.

If these women have problems with their breast size, then well and good, let them go and pay for their own enlargement. If they have gotten into the defence force and successfully completed training courses and worked operationally as they are, how is it a defence or taxpayer problem to deal with body image issues?
I don't particularly like the way my ears stick out and have been teased about it on occasion, but I'd never have dreamed of trying to hit the defence force for a cosmetic operation to fix it while I was in.

It sounds to me like they know a sympathetic psych and have hit him or her up for a letter of recommendation to use in support of an application for the procedure (something they want but don't really need) to be done on the taxpayer's dollar.

[Green Flash]

Can the RAN ask for them back when she leaves?:E

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

Surely they were covert buoyancy aids. Return to Store for examination/write off on discharge from Service. That'll keep the Stackers (or, in this case, the Jack dusties) happy.

[Chukkablade]

We had the exact samething happen in the RN in the 90's. A bloody good whinge about self confidence was all it took, next thing, free boob op.

I remember one young 'lady' having it done, and then as soon as she was back from Haslar, she rejoined the ships company and spent the rest of the 10 day jolly in Hania getting them out for a feel and a squeeze for anyone who was interested. Not lacking self confidence any more it seemed:}

[Chalkstripe]

I'd have thought that the 4 grand spent would do more to raise everyone else's morale (at least those that are thoroughly red blooded);)

[Chukkablade]

Oh, it did, I was trying to be polite though!

I think most of the lower deck M.E. department had something raised by that young 'lady':E

[herbaceous]

I was posted to Nowra in 97 and there was a Wren who had a job done on the company then, so not exactly a new thing. Very nice they were too!

[Goer Round]

My initial reaction was one of indignation until I realised that my ex (WRAF officer) had her nose done in an RAF hospital. I guess the same principle holds - if prominent probiscii are OK then why not pay for some wooly- jumper-outer-shapers?

[Charlie Luncher]

So
Can a Jolly Jack confirm for me that you have a couple of big tits in the RAN who are a bit false.:E
Charlie sends

[OCCWMF]

Was anyone else disappointed to not to see any pictures of the subject(s) of the story?

[Sunk at Narvik]

If this was the RN I'm sure one the tabloids would have had some fun with it, in the meantime this is all we have..

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m3/apr2007/7/5/D518BA39-0273-1E3F-08DA723529FEC5A8.jpg

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[Chukkablade]

Dunno about the jubblies, but with shoulders like that, she should consider field gun:uhoh:

[PommieB'stard]

I remember a certain well (very) endowed loadmisstress on 30 Sqn who actually had hers made smaller on the company!
I also seem to remember that we all wore black armbands that day.

[Pontius Navigator]

At least the RAN will get some return on its investment, not like the delightful young lady (I am told) who had training as a pole dancer on Betty's pay role.

[airborne_artist]

At least the RAN will get some return on its investment, not like the delightful young lady (I am told) who had training as a pole dancer on Betty's pay role.

She did claim that she had since "performed" for a number of senior serving officers, so she's had some positive impact on morale, surely? :E

[betty swallox]

So can we get a few of our WRAF fixed...you know...those upside-down legs...

[wannabe87]

I had mine done awhile ago- just hope it doesnt affect my application in the RN... im sure it wont. Does anyone know out of interest?

[Andratx]

Wannabe - it depends how natural they look.

Why don't you post a photo and let us be the judge ?

[wannabe87]

haha i was waiting for that! ive been told they look and feel very natural. If and when i get in im not going to shout about them thats for sure- but i could pretty much guarantee most wouldnt even know ive had it done!

anyone know if it would affect application for aircrew? i have rung AFCO but they never got back to me

[Andratx]

Sorry, couldn't resist it :O

As for your application, sorry I don't know - hopefully someone else will.

[airborne_artist]

http://www.oddpic.com/data/516/memento.jpg

[wannabe87]

im not going to post photos as then i could be classed as some unfathamable navy term that is derogatory in some sense that i wouldnt know the meaning of! and i know how mean you lot are to newbies :p

[Trojan1981]

Same thing in the RAAF/Army. I know two crew atts and one cook who had operations done while based a Richmond. I also knew an RAAF dental assist at the same place who was at the other end of the spectrum!

[Runaway Gun]

I wonder if I (as a man) should apply for a Breast Enhancement Op, just so I can push the 'Sexual Equality' test ;)