EK: Sycophants' Ball - Latest

[Marooned]

Too busy to attend, 90 hours in Nov, but isn't it a bit rich to have a party when there is so little to celebrate? How cost neutral is this? Must be old beer.

They whip us on the line then throw us a carrot like this as if they are doing us a favour... we could do ourselves a big favour and boycott it unless it gets rostered and we get credit for attending.

They should throw a party when they have actually changed something for the better. It would be more appropriate to hold a wake at this point in time.

[critical winge]

You may all remember when there was a request for people to take part in a poll to see if a months (5weeks!) reserve would be a good idea or not. Because more than 50% of pilot work force voted it "MIGHT" be a good idea, IT WAS IMPLEMENTED as there was a majority vote! Now, lets think, lots of resignstions of late (wait til Virgin Pacific starts from Aus to the US>>>!) Whats this all about, if they really cared for a fun time for the work force then they would put on a CHRIST(PBUH)mas party. Thats a traditional fun time when most of the workforce would appreciate it and go anyway for the good cheer (sp beer).

So what is it they are trying to achieve this time, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN SOMETHING FOR NOTHING OR JUST BECAUSE WE CARE ATTITUDE HERE.

Looking forward to the glorious praises as to how nice it was they wanted to do it for the crucial front line crew, because they care (about lack of applications and the number of resignations). How come almost all of the Engineers are now Malaysian, I wonder if Etihad are doing a CHRIST(PBUH)mas party for them as most of the previous eng force seem to be there now.

[puff m'call]

Ah a party to celibrate the fact the "flying pig" is delayed even further.

Don't care if the beer is free, I personally would'nt go anyway, who wants to watch a bunch of grovelling sad b@stards sucking up to management. :yuk:

You can just picture it. :yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

[chinawladi]

Simlpe - just don't go.
The same goes for the talking horse's last mail. He wants to hear us in the brief. Most probably to get us to sing their rotten song of award winning spirit and blahblahblah in our free time....... ! Just dont go. Our duty starts 1 hour before block off, that means let's just skip the briefing room and do the brief we really need on the bus.

[Arty Craft]

Not much enthusiasm in Engineering for the party either since most guys are just waiting for a better break. Unfortunately not much happening in the engineers' job market. :sad: Only three Licensed Technicians have made the move to Etihad because the package is not attractive enough for E3's.
All things considered EK is still the best bet in the Middle East for the engineers. No wonder we are such a happy bunch :D

[Marooned]

From what I can gather there seems to be a lack of enthusiasm generally about having a beer with TCAS, ED et al anywhere.

It just seems to be another example, if we needed one, of how out of touch 'they' are with the front line. 'They' will no doubt say that this is an attempt to get in touch but I believe that they should first make a serious attempt to address the issues in a more formal environment.

Personally I find the whole thing an insult. Attending such an informal event lends credence to their attitudes and policies.

There are few if any reasons to have any sort of party at the moment and they only have to take their collective heads out of AARs behind to find out why.

[Fluke]

You guys read to much into this crap.
If i have a day off, i am going to go and drink all the piss because no one else will be there. Might have a game of golf as well....and a bus home to boot!;)

[ShockWave]

I'm with you fluke. Free piss and food! not too many down sides to that.
Don't not go to spite them guys, go get pissed eat as much as you can , then throw up on the way out in protest, Perfect!

[GoreTex]

amazing how pilots lower themself for free drinks

[ShockWave]

It's not really lowering yourself, it's more of an image, stereotype thing.
To lower ones self is to imply that at some stage we were actually better than that. I don't think evolution has progressed quite that far.:}

[Not from here]

It would seem not too many going to the party on the 10th, second reminder in as many days.
Maybe they would get a better response if they spent more time sorting out ADOPT, CREWING LEVELS, FAIR/EQUATABLE UPGGRADE FOR EK F/O’S, etc
TCAS reminds me of a famous Roman emperor NERO something about playing your fiddle while Rome burns.!!!

[Fart Master]

Seconded:ok:

[Alan Squeely]

Capt. America told me that he was going!

But seriously, TCAS is only here to top up his retirement fund. What has he done to improve things around here...nothing. He employed Mister Ed to be a fall guy for when the wheels start falling off, as they most definitiely are now.

I'll be interested to hear reports of who actually shows at the much publicised event...I won't be going...pity, my last chance to knock back a cold one with Idle Redhead!

[puff m'call]

Thirdidid :ok:

[critical winge]

Would like to know if there are any PPRuNe loyals here who are going to report back on the occasion, that "you" enjoyed with the managements. Feel free to go as the reporter, not as the lonely line rep for ops. I'm sure it will be a ball, it has ben advertised X weeks and still they send out recruitment notices.
Perhaps management feel more like Russel Crowe (sp) in the gladiator ring without the weapons to please the crowds by putting lions to the slaughter. Eventually, Russel met his end and now there cannot be a repeat as the main character was killed off not to return (or was that TCK in the ring?, nah, he never put up a good fight because he had no real backbone)

Fourthed and Fourtiethd

[Check 'Six']

Fithdid:ok:

Bring back the pay by credit system. It has been more than a year now to review Mr TCAS

Check Yer Six sonny!:cool:

[Yossarian]

Gotta concur with Check 6 on the pay for credit system. Also a quick wake up with the upgrades would be good. Am interested to see if there is gonna be any change in the 777 transition idea given the amount of interest that has been shown. Sorry, I know, optimism is a scarce commodity and rarely brings reward around here, but you never know.

As to the party, even if I had the day off, free beer aint enough reason to attend. Somehow I know it will taste flat, be lukewarm and cause a major headache.........not unlike the management who serve it.

[ruserious]

Well of course I really want to go, but all those posters in the CBC telling me that taking a tube of toothpaste off the aircraft, really cuts into profits, means that the company really must be struggling. So I am going to do my bit for the company help with next years profit share, by not going :yuk:
Good news is I will also helping to save the environment, as its I'll be one less person for TCAS and his cohorts to give off greenhouse gasses to at the parppy

[uplock]

At this rate the party will be held in the phone booth out side TCAS office

Hey ruserious You could also mention the humongus amount of money the company are now saving buy not publishing the address book. What was it 10 Durhams ( nearly $3) a book....stagering

[gatvol2006]

Inviting all EK pilots for a party at my place 10th November, free refreshments and food, dress as you please.....any takers?!!

[MerlintheWizard]

hi gents,well the number is 38 pilots and spouses in the airbus fleet ,so far,and ill be the volunteer to report the events,its a dirty job i know but somebody has to drink all that lukewarm beer

[Ramboflyer 1]

Heard it will be non-alcoholic beer, and the f/os who go will get a ticket for 1 free transition upgrade ie no 6 months.
Credit sytem will come back but you will not get overtime unless you exceed 100 hours credit in 28 days.
What the hell is happening to the US dollar i gotta get some euros, dirhams are dead.:mad:

[Marooned]

Maybe with the news of more profits for The Sheikh there'll be free nuts too?

[max AB]

I could use a new pair of those EK oven mitts, my last pair have worn out...

[Marooned]

Just noted that it is not 'free' beer but cost neutral beer as the two drinks on offer are actually being supplied by MMI not EK.

International buffet (crisps and nuts) and Indian buffet are supplied but perhaps not from our own catering dept as there recent massive payrise may invite some more inventive ingredients to the massala sauce.

[Alan Squeely]

Wot, no reports yet!

C'mon Captain America, tell those of us who chose to stay away what we missed!!

Somebody must have gone, surely?

[MR8]

Oops, forgot about the party. Well, was to busy doing ... euh ... nothing :E

Do you think I can still claim my two beers at MMI?

MR8

[mini cooper]

Come on somebody must have gone along, any good gossip?

[uplock]

I guess the company email could be a guideline.....

Email asking those who won prizes at the Engineering Party to come and collect them...


Spread sheet attachment says over 300 prizes handed out and only 4 collected...

So does that mean only 4 went....or did it have something to do with the freebies

[Ramboflyer 1]

First prize was a used mini-bus , its 100 per-cent yours as long as you transport the MMI workers to and from work 6 times a week.
2nd prize was a get outta jail free from the sack 1 time only if you steal a bottle of water to drink on your Dakka overnight. that will make for some good room parties.
3rd prize was an offer to start a pilots union, this amazing offer also came with the first basing , its at the north pole. I believe also the lucky candidate is required to count the number of aircraft flying over the pole itself using heat sensing cameras.
The rest of the prizes were pens and junk of the flights things you are not allowed to steal. Seems if everybody has something like this at home it will be easier to get rid of them , try explaining you won it , you must have pinched it. Your sacked and you loose your provident fund , now thats real cost cutting.
By paying the waiters at the party it was possibble to squeeze some extra drinks.
:D

[Fart Master]

Heard about 3000, yes 3000 people went, but surprise, surprise only about 50-60 pilots

[uplock]

considering that there were 50 to 60 pilots sick that day it makes perfect sense

[MR8]

50-60 Pilots... is that included the management guys?? hehe

MR8

[145qrh]

50-60...Well I'm sure that Mr Ed wiil produce a nice coloured chart to show that in fact seasonally adjusted the numbers were ,in fact fantastic...:} :}

[Alan Squeely]

Actually I believe that the 60-70 pilots in attendance were there to present their resignations. :} It is very difficult to actually corner any Flight Ops. Management these days as the managers are either:

1. Refusing to talk to pilots (TCAS), or,
2. Forever "in a meeting" (every other manager in flight ops).

Anyway I'm sure that Mister Ed will present the statistically adjusted figures that will conclusively prove that over 70% of offduty pilots were in attendance.

Oh, by the way Mister Ed., what is this about a Flight Ops meeting where you were seeking ideas as to how to force Captain's to utilise duty time discretion?
:=

[Gillegan]

Oh, by the way Mister Ed., what is this about a Flight Ops meeting where you were seeking ideas as to how to force Captain's to utilise duty time discretion?
:=


"discretion: • noun 1 the quality of being discreet. 2 the freedom to decide what should be done in a particular situation."

The Oxford English Dictionary

[donpizmeov]

I am sure everything will be fine once Long Range Ed and TCAS undergo this leadership training they are talking of. One would have hoped they would have completed this before taking their present jobs, but better late than never right?
Also interesting that besides having QAR, ASR, CSRs, KGB, GRU, CID, interpol, six monthly PPCs, medicals etc, they still think there is a chance someone might be getting away with something that should be punished with at least a formal warning and a few years loss of profit share. So they now are encouraging people to rat on their mates with more reports. Doesnt seem that long ago that report writing was frowned upon. So hard to keep up really.
I guess all extra fuel can be listed as LREDF (Long Range Ed diversion Fuel), might cut into the payload if we have to keep using NBO all the time though, and will make a long day when doing a SYD etc.:}

Always Discovering,

Don

[mini cooper]

Remember when you are writing all these reports that you must all wear your jackets now - cheers Mr Ed - got nothing else better to do than to write that?
:mad:

[MR8]

mini cooper, you should thank Mr Ed for the reminder to wear our jackets. That's extra pockets to put those little toothpastes in.. :E

MR8

[aimscabinet]

mini cooper, you should thank Mr Ed for the reminder to wear our jackets. That's extra pockets to put those little toothpastes in.. :E

MR8

Extra pockets for the allowances at layovers as well :O :E

[Jam-Yo]

I'm with you fluke. Free piss and food! not too many down sides to that.
Don't not go to spite them guys, go get pissed eat as much as you can , then throw up on the way out in protest, Perfect!

Shock

That would be BRILLIANT!!! Let me know how it went...

[Jam-Yo]

Shock
That would be BRILLIANT!!! Let me know how it went...


Where is TCAS from? He sounds like a class act all the way!

[Fart Master]

Like all crap airline managers he is from the UK:hmm: