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406pilot
4th July 2006, 09:20
hello guys and gals,

i was just wondering what were the possibility of working in india if i was a holder of the pio card.. although the card clearly states that the holder of this card will enjoy all the benefits of an NRI...i have read most of the thread on this column but they are still confussing me...i believe the state has issued a directive that only foreign commanders will be allowed to work in the country(clearly i am yet to achive that)...any help will be appreciated

keep it up there fellows,
no more 406pilot.

Nevrekar
4th July 2006, 17:11
In a nutshell if you want to work in India as a foreigner, then you get hired based on your ICAO license (FAA etc). However, in India the main expat hiring is for Capts only. Therefore you need to have an ATP with a type rating in the aircraft the airline is flying and have 500 hrs of command minimum in that aircraft.

If you dont have the above then you have to apply as an Indian, and that means having to convert your licenses to Indian ones. Then you can apply for an F/O position. I believe the POI and OCI cards will enable you to do this.
It's a very grey area still. Perhaps someone can shed some more light.

Asante Sana Bwana

tex8vc
4th July 2006, 21:51
Nevreker, You are spot on!

If you qualify, work as Captn otherwise apply for F/O.
Convert you overseas license to Indian for which you have to clear 2/3 exams in India (not a big deal if you are current)
and here you go ......406Pilot!

There is no "Gray" now, DGCA has been issued a 'Black and White' from Aviation Ministry on this matter!

Good Luck!

p.s. Nevreker, What does “Asante Sana Bwana” it is not Marathi for sure!

Nevrekar
5th July 2006, 10:04
Tex-- Asante Sana Bwana was a salutation to the post from the gent from Tanzania. It means "Thank you friend." As far as the Marathi goes, I get that a lot---For the record my point of origin in India is Goa, and not Maharashtra.
The language of my parents(deceased) was Konkani and Portuguese. My dad was a diplomat with the IFS and later a UN Consultant--I spent 4 years in Tanzania and was once fluent in Swahili.

tex8vc
5th July 2006, 19:59
Thanks Nevreker!

406pilot
6th July 2006, 08:38
hi nevrekar/tex8 vc...

thanks for all the info guys, nervrekar do we know each other if yes please send me a pm and we can catch up..i see your swahili has not left you,and thats always a good thing..

tex can you please dig out more info on the 2/3 exams that we are supposed to write to convert my icao licence...oh by the way here goes the million $ question does right seat 732 time and and icao atp get you a job there???...on my visit to india i just saw a lot of ng's parked on the ramp so just wondering about that...

keep it up there fellows,

no more 406pilot

MasterD
6th July 2006, 10:01
Tex-- Asante Sana Bwana was a salutation to the post from the gent from Tanzania. It means "Thank you friend." As far as the Marathi goes, I get that a lot---For the record my point of origin in India is Goa, and not Maharashtra.
The language of my parents(deceased) was Konkani and Portuguese. My dad was a diplomat with the IFS and later a UN Consultant--I spent 4 years in Tanzania and was once fluent in Swahili.


wow a fellow Goan and a Tanzania what are the odds
My family was in Tanzania but later moved to Kenya

Nevrekar
6th July 2006, 15:06
Habari:

I am probably a lot older than most of you (45). I lived in Dares-Salaam in the late 60's. For those of you who know the area, I lived in a place called Upanga. I recall it being near a place called Shaban Roberts and the Karimji Gymkhana. I attended three schools when I was there 1. St. Josephs 2. Oyster Bay Primary & 3. Bunge. Julius Nyerere was the President then. It was great fun being a kid there. I loved the Manga, Kasava and especially TopeTope. TANO was a big children's organization for natives. The East-African Safari was big then. My dad went back many years later on many UN delegations and said a lot had changed--not all for the better. Our old house was still there but was surrounded by barbed wire like a fortress. Crime apparently taken its toll. Many a panga attack I was told.



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Nevrekar
6th July 2006, 15:09
Habari:

I am probably a lot older than most of you (45). I lived in Dares-Salaam in the late 60's. For those of you who know the area, I lived in a place called Upanga. I recall it being near a place called Shaban Roberts and the Karimji Gymkhana. I attended three schools when I was there 1. St. Josephs 2. Oyster Bay Primary & 3. Bunge. Julius Nyerere was the President then. It was great fun being a kid there. I loved the Manga, Kasava and especially TopeTope. TANO was a big children's organization for natives. The East-African Safari was big then. My dad went back many years later on many UN delegations and said a lot had changed--not all for the better. Our old house was still there but was surrounded by barbed wire like a fortress. Crime apparently taken its toll. Many a panga attack I was told. Wonder if Chibuku is still there !



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tex8vc
6th July 2006, 19:54
406Pilot,

Have a look at DGCA website! http://www.dgca.nic.in/
or
http://www.indianpilot.com/DGCA/converting_licences.shtml

With your profile, I guess you stand a very good chance if you apply as Indian on RHS of those NGs you have seen!

Do your bit of research and go for it! And do let us know how you go!!!

Good luck!!!

406pilot
6th July 2006, 20:39
hi nevrekar/tex/master.d

jambo bwana neverekar,
you will be pleased to hear that the 3rd phse government has improved a lot of things including the crime..the cassava,mango and tope tope is still there as juicy as ever i also live in upanga..and currently flying for the national airline...tanu was later to unite with asp of zanzibar and form the ruling party ccm..after which the country is now called the united republic of tanzania..karibu sana

tex8...
thanks for all the info you have given will check out the websites and try and organise the pio card,been told that can take upto 3 months to process,i sure hope the boom will still be on by then will keep you posted on the precedings..

master.d

do you speak the language aswell tell us more about yourself..flying? where?


keep it up there fellows,

no more 406pilot

wallacebaba
14th July 2006, 15:18
Hello,

I just went through your thread this morning. The Grey area u mentioned does it mean?

"An OCI or PIO can work in India as a F/O"

I will appreciate if u have a link suggesting the same.

Thanks












Nevreker, You are spot on!

If you qualify, work as Captn otherwise apply for F/O.
Convert you overseas license to Indian for which you have to clear 2/3 exams in India (not a big deal if you are current)
and here you go ......406Pilot!

There is no "Gray" now, DGCA has been issued a 'Black and White' from Aviation Ministry on this matter!

Good Luck!

p.s. Nevreker, What does “Asante Sana Bwana” it is not Marathi for sure!

tex8vc
19th July 2006, 01:44
Hiya!
I guess (in general) only OCIs can work not PIOs!? Not sure if airlines follow this rule or not! Check with Indian High Commission in your country! Because there are different set of rules for both of them.

Good Luck!

Jagbag
20th July 2006, 15:00
We have one PIO in Kingfisher. I know of at least 3 in Jet.
Get your paperwork done and you should not have ANY problem being taken on as a Senior First Officer.

All the best