citation

[nick p]

After experiencing shed loads of P.F.O letters the chances of getting this job is minimal but just to get a taster of what others would do here goes.
I've applied for a position as F/O on the company citation,which would be the primary duty,the secondary duty would be to fly the company aztec as single pilot IFR.Now,seeing as all the wannabes are up to their necks in debt through training,would you pay for a citation type rating on top of all that,baring in mind i think you'd only fly about 400 hrs/year on it(citation).
Comments welcome.

[HappyPilot]

Hi nick p,

sorry to sound daft, but wat does P.F.O stand for? Reading your post, its obvious its a rejection letter, just wondered what it stood for.

Cheers

[Gnirren]

Please F*** Off maybe :cool:

[carbonfibre]

Nick P

I have applied for the same position as you, im not employed with your company but have iniside knowledge, I have not had the PFO from them but the standard letter, that if you not heard within 4-6 weeks you've been round filed.

Let us know how you get on, assume your FI there? maybe

CF:ok:

[ATP_Al]

IMHO it all depends on how much money is involved and what you ultimately want to do. If you see the job as a stepping stone to the airlines, then given the state of the job market at the moment you might want to save your cash and hold out for another couple of months.

However, if you think you'd enjoy corporate flying for a few years and see the secondary duties on the Aztec as a positive thing then it might be worth a shot. I really like the idea of doing a mix of single and multi crew flying so if the amount involved was reasonable I'd give it a go.

Good luck, let us know how you get on,

Al

[fade to grey]

Hi,
If the bond is reasonable (i.e under 8-9k) do it.
I started on a citation which led to a 146 which led to a 757,

go for it !

[nick p]

Carbon fibre, I haven't even recieved a letter yet,bad omen i think.
As for the rest of the comments, thanks alot, it would be a good oportunity seeing as i'm doing part time instruction at the moment(not at cambridge though),encouraging to hear others that have done that route and progressed onto the bigger machines,the type that i actually work on.Many a time sat in the cockpit wishing.

[carbonfibre]

nick P

Not to worry only got the letter because I had the info the same day as a friend of mine works for them so I rang immediatly, sent CV by email as i spoke to them and got a letter next day saying maybe, maybe not so to speak.

So no news is good news

:ok:

[nick p]

Cheers carbonfibre, decided to give them another CV and cover letter by hand this time just to really annoy them. True, no news is good news,i'll just carry on sitting on the flightdeck of the 30 year old Tristar pretending i have 3 bars on my shoulders.

[hockley]

Does anyone know the approx cost of a Citation TR for someone without jet/turboprop time? Also Would it be best to find a uk/european school or go to the US?

[pablo]

Hi,

circa 24k Euro in FlightSafety Paris for complete training (2 weeks theory, 40hours sim and 3 touch and goes).

I had seen some places in the US in which they give you accelerated courses in which you just had some theory and a few flight hours (no sim) and the price was something like $5k or $10k. Don't know which are the experience requirements for this courses, as well as beware of insurance, as some companies may not accept your TR unless it's been done with certain companies.

Maybe the company is hiring you has some kind of agreement with the provider of the training, and depending on the number of hours, theory, place, accomodation, .... price may vary widely.

Best of luck!!!

[benluckes]

Hi all
I seem to have missed something here as you all seem to know which companys citation is being talked about,though as far as i can see it doesnt say in any of the posts in this thread,which company Nick p is referring to.I would be most appreciative is someone could shed some light on this slightly confusing matter!!??;)

Thanks

[nick p]

Got an interview on friday,best i get the dust off the suit,any advice on first time pilot interviews welcomed.

[nick p]

Need some helpfull hints on my first ever pilot interview, any pointers?.

[Troy McClure]

Know the company, know what the job involves, find out what you can about the aircraft.

Have some sensible questions in mind, think about possible answers to the 'Why do you want to work for us?' type questions.

Possibly answers to 'Give an example of when you .... acted well in a team.... , .... got a job done through good judgment.... , .... held a position of responsibility.... , .... handled a crisis situation.... , etc.

That said, small companies tend to be fairly friendly - they mainly want to see that you know what you're letting yourself in for and that you'll fit in well. Don't be afraid to get a bit of banter going so that they think you're a nice guy.

Above all, be yourself, they'll smell bullsh!t a mile off....

Good luck.

Troy.

[nick p]

Fade to grey,may i ask at what age you started your corporate flying.

[nick p]

Thanks for the advice Troy Mcclure