SIA Cadet Pilot - All Batches, Merged

[ambit]

Bros, just came to my mind to start a thread for our cadet pilot intake so that we won't choke up the cadet pilot thread with our posts. Unfair to the rest of the mates who are posting questions about interviews, tests and other selection stuffs.

Maybe, we could update each other in this thread as we prepare for OBS Lumut and the briefing on 01 Sep.

Btw, which fleet are you guys heading for? And, have any bros recieved the letter of offer? :D

[freaktrimmer]

thats a good question .. (fleet)
to start things off, they'll make u the captain of the cessna 152 fleet in seletar ...
happy landings,

FT

[Ripley]

Hi ambit, just like to find out when dd u submit your application, thanks.

[DonJuan]

Hi bro,
Since i'm lazing at home nothing to do..i decided to give Speed Post a call to find out their delivery policy so that we can all ...wait more objectively.....

For Local Bros (S'pore)
-----------------------------
Scenario 1
Booking must be done b4 11am
Speed Post collects b4/by 1pm
and delivers b4/by 6pm

Scenario 2
Booking done after 11am
Speed Post collects b4/by 6pm
and delivers next day b4/by 1pm


For Malaysia and Thailand Bros...
-------------------------------------------
Scenario 1
Booking must be done b4 11am
Speed Post collects b4/by 1pm
Starting frm the next day it takes 1-3 days to deliver...

Malaysia (Johor and KL to certain postal code)
Thailand (Bangkok certain postal code)
Not sure what they meant by that...


Scenario 2
You can take the que from us....once all the S'pore bros start posting their receival...you can expect yours in next 1-3 days.....

Cheers Mate....

[ambit]

freaktrimmer, yeah...for at least 200 hours. :)

Ripley, my case is abit complex. I submitted my application last May. Cleared my 1st interview in June 04. Was put on hold due to my eye surgery. Feel free to pm me if you need more info.

Donjuan, mine will only come next week. Are you offered cargo? :O

[ddreamer17]

Hi all,

Can you all clear my doubts?

As i have perfect eyesight but have slight colour defiency, am i still able to become a SIA Pilot?

Thank you...

[ambit]

Donjuan, bro, I have pm you. Keep each other posted :)

ddreamer17, sorry my friend. I am not sure myself. In SIA website, it only indicate:

"Medically fit with visual acuity of at least 6/60 without optical aids, correctable to 6/6."

[SQ007]

Hi guys, only 2 weeks more to go b4 I leave for Singapore but hasnt' received any documents from SQ yet. Has all of you received your contracts yet? I'm a bit worried about it. Pls keep me posted, thanks mates.

[DonJuan]

Hi SQ007,
Bro i received my contract 16 Aug at 1700hrs... I think you should get it by thursday - friday....

Look at above post on speedpost norm for delivery to malaysia...


Cheers Mate....

[Terryble]

DonJuan : is it cargo? or SIA pax?

[ambit]

Sq007, bro, don't worry. You should be getting your's soon.

Same as Donjuan, I have also recieved the letter yesterday afternoon.

Bros who are joining the 02 Sep batch, our journey has started...... :ok:

[SQ007]

Hi guys, I just got the mail from SQ. Thanks guys for all the info.

[mat salleh]

hope u guys in 114 have been in the gym,

LUMUT AWAITS!

muahahhahah

wai nung - we are still watching you

we will meet u at the airport if you survive - 113

[TurboBlades]

yeah...white fella is right...

Congrats to batch 114.

We hope that you'll be able to 'discover' yourselves in OBS.

Make sure you get your relevant pre-employment paperwork done ASAP.

We'll see you when u get here.



Cheers!

[Sandfiller]

yeah guys.....discover yourselves as many times as you like. Lumut is really a great place without the haze of cos.:cool:

[SQ007]

Yea, I really hope all the 'fun' will not be affected by the haze.

[mat salleh]

Remember these words when you are at OBS,

gentlemen i commend you for a job well done

give yourselves a hand

what are you thoughts

how does it make you feel

patients

rain or shine, life goes on, tommorow is another day

think about it

also you will learn to love insect repellant and hate monkeys

[Sandfiller]

yeah mat salleh,

Use your imagination.
Love the flies.

[DonJuan]

Hi Bros,
Are you guys motivating or trying to scare the crap out of us...either way it was fun reading your post...seeing that you guys had a blast of a time in OBS.... We wil take your advise with a pinch of a salt.....

One day we will write our own story..... Enjoy Seletar....and hope to see you guys soon...

Cheers Mate....

[TinyBrain]

Hrmm.. mat salleh...
gentlemen i commend you for a job well done that sounds familiar.. hahaha... Looks like the 113 enjoyed the OBS.. :D

SQ007: if I were you, I'll pray for the haze... ;)

[SpongeRog]

Hi guys

was directed to this forum by Nine Victor.

I'm also gonna be joining u guys in Lumut on 2 Sep as are 2 more of my interview batch mates (dunno if they're already in this forum though!)

looking forward to meet everyone on 1 sep!

Cheers!

[theseus]

hope you guys are having a good time!

keep updating please!

[rAul]

Hi guys...
Hope the OBS was fun-filled!!! care to fill-in any tips and juicy bits??? hehe :D
The next OBSbatch is at Ubin on Oct 13.... hope its as fun as lumut...was there lotsa running at LUMUT?

rAul (oct 13 batch)

[predator79]

congrats to bros here who are going to OBS.. really envy.. hope to be in the recruited list 2 years from now... by that time, you guys will already be soaring in the sky.. good luck!!!

[predator79]

for those bros who made it to OBS.. may i asked, what is the oldest age that have passed your interview?

[herz22]

32 and he is a doctor.

[middlekingdom]

hey guys,

me too....i went for my medical on the 23 Sept 2005....one guy from my batch got called for the Oct13 course...he didn't had to wait for one month for the resignation notice so left first....He's a S'porean....

I guess those M'sians have to wait for their employment pass to be cleared and then only SIA will contact us....i think i takes about 3 weeks....

Anyway just be patient cause the notice from SIA will come soon....

:D

[Deepsea]

I was 2 months off my 33rd B-day. Couldn't join 114 because of my current contract.

Waiting for my time to "ORD". Wonder anyone can provide me the oldest age SIA takes in cadets?

[babygod]

ya. long wait. not sure when we will get called.

[middlekingdom]

Have anyone tried calling SIA?.....is it a good idea to call them and ask which batch will we be in?

[babygod]

yes swift. eh bro, my finger also pain. :(

i was thinking to tender in early. but its a big risk. what if they never call me up for Nov batch. hope the calls come soon if not sure not enough notice and have to compensate to company.

Nov batch in 3rd week of Nov right? Hope they call next week.

[meqwerty]

anyone here not 25 (for singaporeans, i mean) yet as of 13 oct?

if u guys thought ur wait was long, my med was aug 5th.

[middlekingdom]

Hey Swift, you are right....I feel we shoould be patient and just wait for thier email...

Hey Babygod, how did you know about Nov batch that is starting at the 3rd week of November?.....its new to me and to all of us in this thread...

[middlekingdom]

Thanks for your information Swift....hopefully we are all in the same batch going for the 25 Nov course ....

the wait is killing....i think all we could do is just wait and maybe read up some stuff on ATPL and flying....

[babygod]

anyone know this week batch. how many go medical?

[SQ007]

Hi guys, hope that you guys get called up soon. Just be patient. Anyway, it is not true that they will get offended if you call them. By all means call them if you have any questions, but relevant ones, dun call and ask why you haven't get called. I don't know about J****, but I called E***** so many times to sort out my employment pass and other issues. Hope to see you guys soon.

Cheers.

[SQ007]

I think the max age for non-airforce is 32. But just submit your application and try.

Cheers.

[streetguy]

SQ007, (assumingly u are a malaysian)

how long does it take between your medical and the email notification of the offer?

[Deepsea]

Hi SQ007,

You with 114? I did, submitted my applications and cleared interviews and medical. Was offered to join you guys on 02 Sep, but current contract with company is valid and liquidation too ex. So told SQ "thank you, but now is not a good time."

So now waiting and counting days. Wondering how long the offer will last. One of my pals in 113 managed to delay 9 months.

Anyway, hope you enjoy the course. Will pop by Seletar one of these days to catch up with SpongeRog and 2 others. Look forward to meet you there.

Best of luck.:ok:

[predator79]

deepsea bro.. thanks for your reply... are you married?...

i got a friend who tried for pilot few years ago, was rejected. The reasons given were because of his marriage at a young age and also they were afraid that he could not concentrate in his oversea training due to his family commitment.

so does any bros here who are married and was passed as a cadet pilot?

[predator79]

Swifter4531... i got a friend who got the same medical date as yours (30 SEPT).. anyway he's now at OBS training (OCT 13).. The reason why you weren't called up and my friend did, i believed is the clearance issue... he was working for SIA when he applied for Cadet pilot thus his clearance to work for SIA is smoother than yours... be patient bro.. you are already so near than most of the people here... you will definitely reach that finishing line...

[SQ007]

streetguy, I can't really remember how long I waited, sorry, but I waited much longer than the rest of the malaysians because I had some problems with my employment pass. Basically, Malaysians have to wait a bit longer for the process of Minister of Manpower I believe, and even much longer if you don't have a degree.

swifter, I don't think I know middlekingdom. I can advice you guys to start reading on Gas Turbines, Theory of Flight and Airframe systems while waiting if you are free. I don't know what to do for ATPL as I'm still in tech phase though. I'm kindda struggling now cause I didn't do it back then.

Cheers.

[middlekingdom]

Hey streetguy,

From what i heard, there is no fixed 'waiting period' from the date of your medical to the date you receive the email for notification of the offer.....some have waited for almost 3 months and some waited only 4 days to get notified....for Malaysians...i think it would be the same as our other brothers who are S'poreans.

Hey SQ007,

You mean its good to call Mr. E......??? did he get angry or frustated when u called?.......anyway.....like what u said...just be patient...btw Swift, i think SQ 007 is not in my batch cos I think his a Cadet now.

[SQ007]

deepsea, yea, I'm in 114, you know spongerog?

predator, there are married cadets in my course, 2 of them excluding the airforce guys

Cheers..

[streetguy]

SQ007 and middlekingdom,

thanx fer the prompt reply.

anyway we were told by Mr. E that the employment pass for M'sians will take an average of 4-6 weeks.....

i definitely know s'poreans clear the employment thingy much sooner than m'sians as most of them got the offer within 2 weeks of their medicals...

just some of my observations....

[predator79]

Thanks SQ007 for your information... That's really an important piece of news for me...

[predator79]

For some reasons, I noticed that Singapore Airlines
has been conducting interview after intervew for the past few
months and their requirements (invitation to interview and
passing requirement) are not as stringent as before. If i am not
wrong, the number of interview held each year used to be something like 3 interviews per YEAR but now it seems like they are conducting interview almost every month. So am i being ignorant about their interview procedure or is this a sign of desperation for pilots?

if it was really the case of SIA is in need of pilots,
so pilots and pilot wannabes here, in your opinion,
how long will this ongoing interview trend last?

[middlekingdom]

Hey guys,

Just to reconfirm what streetguy mentioned....MoM takes around 6 weeks to clear the employment or s pass for Malaysians....

How I wish I was a Singaporean....hahaha....

anyone out there care to give some of us who are in the 'waiting pool' some advice on what to do while waiting????.....

Hey babygod,
I don't know how many went for medical this week....maybe you can call up ST medical services and ask :D

[middlekingdom]

Hey predator79,

yeah....SIA is really in need of pilots now...look at their future fleet size....with 31 B777-300ER and maybe -200LR...what more the 15 A380....

anyway....i think the interview trend will only stop when they have enough of pilots....(just assuming)

MK

[Deepsea]

Predator, I am married with a sixteen month old little girl too. Was grilled quite hard on this during the first interview. But the CAPT really brought up many valid points. I am grateful to him for sharing the experience.

My half-cents worth : convince them that your family will not be a burden to you during the three year cost. My feel is that they preferred married guys cos of level of maturity.

Hopefully when your bond is up, we will be course mates.

SQ007,

Hi, please refer to you PM.

[Deepsea]

Dear all,

I fully understand the agony of the wait. Mine and two of my good friends in 114 was a month... Another waited two.

But we kept to the following slogan :

"No bad news is good news".

I suppose as long as there is nothing official from SIA that you are out, chopped, etc, you are still in their list of possible candidates. Its just a question of when you fit into their complex "big picture".

At this stage after the medical, we have all done what we can, nothing we do (except maybe pray) like calling E***** or J**** will change the results of the two interviews.

I wish everyone the best of luck, not in the wait, but in your course to start one day soon.:ok:

[predator79]

Deepsea... thanks for your enlightenment and encouragement... i do hope to become your coursemate as well but don't think it will materialise for this few years.. sadly, my bond still has another 2 years to run... anyway, will pray hard to become your colleague..lol... by the way, what are you working as now?

[freaktrimmer]

yeah, its kinda become a joke hasnt it. every other dude walkin the streets of spore is an SIA pilot now ...
they r just looking for quantity not quality, standards are dropping ... but hell yeah, there is no other way to get underpaid air jockeys ... and to answer ur question, yes the hiring will continue till everyone is a pilot (every other person aint good enuf)
cheers,

FT

[shyhhaur]

yoyo...I am in the same batch with babygod and swifter..

yeah yeah,, i will tender in my resignation letter soon !!! wo ho

[shyhhaur]

Yo bros !!

By this week, I hope I can post this message

"" Hi guys, i just received the gud news from j**** !! yeah baby, i will be going to lumut for my obs , so cool !!..gtg, need to print out resignation letter,,see u all ""

[babygod]

hi bros. yeah. is a long wait.
cant wait to get to seletar. everyday look at handphone but never rings.
hope this week will have some news. nov cos shld be 1 month away. guess they will start putting people in.

[shyhhaur]

:} yo...anyone already in nov obs hot list?? y still no news ???

[middlekingdom]

Hey guys,

Do inform everyone in the thread if you got called for the Nov OBS....so far there are 3ppl from my interview batch waiting and 4ppl from Swift's interview batch...that makes 7 of us...any others?

[babygod]

yoz. i know there are 5 pple going medical on the 7th oct.

middlekingdom, the 3 on your batch will offered oct 13 course before and they reject? or they were not call at all? your batch is 23th sept medical one?


another day passing by with no news...

[middlekingdom]

Hey babygod,

the 3 of us in my batch are waiting for the Nov OBS course...yeah...we went for the 23 Sept medical in ST medical services we all cleared our medical but still waiting for a call or email from SIA...

anyway, one guy in our interview batch who went for the medical on 23 Sept got called for the Oct 13 OBS course...he was a S'porean and did not need to wait for a month for SIA to notify him as he was unemployed at that time...

Hopefully the news from SIA will come as soon as possible....

[babygod]

so it means all of you have not receive any offer. all singaporean?

guess this week or next week will have more news.

[middlekingdom]

yeah all of us have not receive an offer yet....out of 3 of us....2 are S'poreans and i'm the only malaysian...

yeah....hopefully there will be more news..

[babygod]

hope to get the call soon. it going to be less than one month away soon. Need one month notice to resign. haiz.

[max232]

hey guys..first time user here...its kinda cool that everyone is keepin each other informed..i did my med on the 16th of sept..and now waiting anxiously for the offer letter...heard from everyone that there's an OBS intake on nov..hope they get us in for that one...anyone knows how many ppl do they accept in one intake?? ...well il join u guys n keep ya'll informed abt my waiting period status!?!?! hehe..

[babygod]

hi max. oct 13 batch is around 25 people. i think that is the maximum size already. cross yr fingers.

yr batch left how many still waiting?

[forza1111]

Hello everyone,

Glad to see another thread coming up, Just wish that the way we are being called up is more systematic.... I did my med in 23 Jul, imagine this my batch still have another 4 more havent been called up, including me... sigh...

hope to see you guys soon...

cheers
:sad:

[predator79]

forza.. do you have any slightest clue why you aren't call up yet? could it be you have underwent lasik, medically unfit or poor eyesight (just my assumption, no offence)?

[babygod]

i dun think is first come first serve also. must have choosing system. not sure if the scoring matix thing really is true or not.

[forza1111]

Hi pred79,

Its ok for asking, well for your info. according to the RSAF medical checkup I have perfect eyesight, hearing and medically fit. nothing wrong with me mentally or physically.. My other mates are also perfectly fine... only thing i can think of is age i guess... cause i turn 25 only in early Oct. correct me if im wrong and perhaps i told them that i needed 6 wks notice... well like all of you will say we just have to wait and thats all we can do, calling them up will be a waste of time and all you know is its in progress, we'll inform you once you are selected... blah blah blah... hopefully i can join the Nov batch since i passed my bday... sigh...................:(

[shyhhaur]

~~it's just another day without.....oh !!!

hi guys, when is the new obs after nov obs???

[middlekingdom]

Hey shyhhaur,

From what I heard, there will only be a OBS batch in Jan 2006mafter the NOV batch due to the monsoon season which will affect the OBS training and the flying training....

yeah another day without news...anyway have anyone in this thread tried to call SIA?....

Wow forza...thats a long long wait....u really have the patience so do your friends....anyway i think everyone who are still waiting after the final interview for this year's candidates will be fitted into the NOV batch..i'm guessing...its all up to SIA....

[max232]

hey babygod..5 of us got thru the second interview..i guess none of us has been called yet..as for me im a fresh grad n have no obligations whatsoever yet they havent contacted me..probably the employment pass thingie caught us up..just praying that they contact us soon...:{

[gavin25]

Hi Guys,

I am Gavin here, went for the medical checkup at the end of August. Most of my group went for the 13th Nov OBS, left me and my other friend still waiting for the news. Hope we will be called up soon and meet up with u guys. Till then, Chill...:D

Rgds,
Gavin

[middlekingdom]

Hey Gavin25,

saw your username in Captain Lim's website....nice to know another candidate from another interview batch....

anyway...would you mind sharing any news that has to do with the selection process?..

[gavin25]

Hi middlekingdom,

i m not sure what u mean by the selection process. Is it during the stages b4 the final interview or after the medical checkup?

If its b4, can refer to the details at captain lim forum

If its after, not sure on that

[middlekingdom]

Hey Gavin,

i think news about after the medical check up....

[middlekingdom]

hahah...Hey Swift, i think everyone in this thread will be going for the Nov 25 OBS course...i could be wrong...the number of people in this thread is just nice to start the course....

:D

[middlekingdom]

good idea swift...u can start writing the list down....

[saxeuman]

Hi guys.. I've been confirmed of the intake in 25nov.. wish you guys good luck and all the best for the selection.

I suppose if you clear your medical, you should be no problem getting selected..

Cheers.

Hi Gavin,

Is there an intake on the 13 Nov?? I think its 13 Oct.. its unlikely that the next intake is so soon after 13 Oct..

Anyway, how is your medical result??

Cheers

[babygod]

wow. why i havnt have my calls. when is your medical? when they call u? Is email or phone? so nervous.

[middlekingdom]

Ok here goes. Cut and paste in your replies. Continue from the list below.

Pilot hopefuls:
1. Swifter4531
2. Babygod78
3. Shyhhaur
4. Bong
5. middlekingdom


Hey guys,
One of my friend got called for the Nov 25 batch by Joyce (telephone)...anyway...that makes it two ( saxeuman and my friend) on the list who got called....I think they should be contacting us tomorow...

Congrats to those who have been called!

All the best guys...

[jagr]

Ok here goes. Cut and paste in your replies. Continue from the list below.

Pilot hopefuls:
1. Swifter4531
2. Babygod78
3. Shyhhaur
4. Bong
5. middlekingdom
6. jagr

sheesh i also heard the news from mine and middlekingdom interview batch guy. so nervous i can hardly make a post here. shouldnt they make all the calls at 1 go!

[middlekingdom]

ahhhhhhh..... the wait is making me going crazy....one time i feel anxious and the next minute i feel nervous...hey...everyone out there any news???....

Saxeuman, which interview batch were you?...when did you do youe medical?

[babygod]

aaaa... looks like exam result is releasing tomorrow. wonder will my hp will ring? better charge your hp battery. One day she can call how many? i dun wan next week. i be even more nervous. =(

[max232]

Ok here goes. Cut and paste in your replies. Continue from the list below.

Pilot hopefuls:
1. Swifter4531
2. Babygod78
3. Shyhhaur
4. Bong
5. middlekingdom
6. jagr
7. max232--m'sian

hey guys...its kind of a relief that at least one of us got the good news...but if im not mistaken..swifter, ur from s'pore rite? as the interviewers told as far as i can remember..priority will be given to s'poreans...anyway im happy for you man..just hope the rest of us can post 'happy' messages soon...probably we can indicate in the list if we're m'sians or s'poreans..wat do u guys think??!!

[shyhhaur]

[B][I][COLOR=orange]hi guys !!!! yeah..glad to see there are so many of us here,,but worry also..hopefully they can squeeze as many as possible in nov obs...[COLOR=orange]

[middlekingdom]

Hey guys,

Don't forget about those who cleared their medical but haven any clue of this website...I guess there must be lots of them in the waiting pool too...

All we can do is jusy to wait patiently and the call/email will come...there are already 7 of us waiting....

Btw max, I'm a malaysian...hopefully all of us will be on the same boat...

All the best to everyone!

[saxeuman]

Hi guys..

For all the hopeful soul out there..

Dont worry.. my case is special.. I've gone thru my interviews around late aug.. gone for my medical 2nd sept. I was actually scheduled for the 13 oct.. but I can't make that date.. so here I am...

Anyway.. I'm in with Singapore Airline Cargo.. let me know who else is in it.

Sounds like you guys are from the same interview batch..
Are you guys from Malaysia being interviewed in Penang?? Can't wait to meet you guys..

Cheers.. and stay hopeful..

[babygod]

hey. same as me. i also offered oct 13 with just 1 week notice. i also cant make it. but they no call me. haiz. so sad.

yrs is cargo huh. hmm. i think our batch will have lots of cargo.

[shyhhaur]

yeah...today is the day...end of the day (waiting day)

[max232]

whoa i just checked the earlier posts...seems like swifter went for the med on the 30th whereas my batch went on the 16th...kinda scary liao...i dont wanna make any assumptions based on that..stil praying...praying ...and praying....

[jagr]

seems like they have not started calling yet? maybe via email?

[middlekingdom]

Hey guys,

no news huh????....don't give up...they will call on monday or maybe via email....they WILL call us one day...just a matter of time..

next week will be my 5th week of waiting...eheheh..happy aniversary of waiting..hahaha....just don't lose hope guys...I'm sure we will all get it...just wait and pray ....if its God's will for us to go to the course late then just wait .....hehehe...

[babygod]

another disappointing day. dear joyce. please call me.

[Deepsea]

Guys,

Like I said :

'No bad news is good news".....Patience is a virtue required of pilots.;)

[forza1111]

Hi guys that are waiting or already on the course,

Finally the day of some news have come, HR called me yesterday and told me that I will be joining you guys on Nov 25!!! but till now theres no email notice for me kind of worried again... sigh... plus i already tender my notice, sigh....

Hope to see all of you soon :)

Cheers
Forza
ps: hang in there, i waited from 22 Jul medical if you know the previous thread... think I've waited quite long eh... so 1-2mths still ok dun worry!

[freaktrimmer]

hey ...
stop being immature .. and keep on hogging this thread with ur kiasu posts ... give some useful info ... when u get the email ... then rejoice ... till then.. keep ur fingers crossed ... just bear in mind .. the big guys might be reading this forum .. so if u keep on postings ur kiasu stuff .... u might not be called up/ or sent ur mail ... so hang in there ... and dont post just for the sake of it ..
cheers,

FT

[saxeuman]

Hi guys..

Be patient.. I reckon their working style is cool.. I have a friend who was in the same interview batch as me, he only received the contract two weeks before the entry date.

Likewise, only at the last moment then they'll let you know. So guys, hang in there.

Cheers

[streetguy]

saxeuman,

on what logical reasons that u "reckon" working style of last minute notification is so called "cool"??

your statement seems to be ignorant.

[shyhhaur]

yeah !!! monday is coming !!!

[babygod]

anyone know how long it takes from receive the call to receiving the contract?

[JDELEMENTZ]

How many malaysians currently for the Nov 25th intake?

[max232]

actually there is only a list of whos waiting..theres no list of whos been called for the november intake for OBS..by the way..is the intake in lumut diff from the one gonna be taken by our fellow singaporeans??

[JDELEMENTZ]

anyone been confirmed yet for the nov 25th intake then?

[saxeuman]

Hi all,

Just to clarify what I meant on the previous mail..

I think the HR works in a way as to make sure the shortlisted ones for the intake are certain they can make it for the course before they send out the contract. They don't want to have cases where they send out to those who are uncertain whether they can make the date.

I know it does not make sense that they only send out the contract at the end yet most of us here needs at least a month to notify the company. But this is how they work. Anyway, if you can't be released in time for the nov course, then you just got to let them know and seek for alternative arrangement. Simple as that.

[bong_kw]

hi guys, i'm in the same medical batch as Swifter4531, Babygod78
and Shyhhaur. finally make my way here to leave msg. i'm a malaysian n still waiting for tt call as the rest of u guys:D

[shyhhaur]

FYI:

SIA FANTASTIC 4 (CPL IR Rated)

1. Swifter - Invisible man
2. Babygod - Fireman
3. Shyhhaur - Rockman
4. Bong - Elastic man

Just a joke, please do not shoot me. Good luck to everyone !!!!

[babygod]

pray that all can get in nov batch. 1/3 is filled i think. left 2/3. If next year batch, the papers will be very tough due to change of syllabus. pray pray.

[Arkdriver]

Congrats guys on being offered your contracts. Do your best, work hard, look after each other.

Trust those that have gone before you, help those that follow.

You will hear these words "I didn't invite you, SIA didn't invite you. Now pay attention, goddammit!" Don't think that it is hard, because after you are done studying, it gets harder.

And when you finally get on line, remember all the times someone did you a disservice, and remind yourself never to be like that.


Happy landings!

[winglet_fever]

Arkdriver

"Trust those that have gone before you, help those that follow"

Good one.

another good one.. "the truth is out there but some of it are in here" written on front page of Airlaw abba.

Guys, enjoy your rather interesting journey ahead. Smiles or frown is all up to u.

[babygod]

Hey guys. i got an offer for Nov batch. Will be joining SIA cargo. How many of you got offer passenger? Seems like all are cargo.

Swift is also confirmed for the november batch

[shyhhaur]

guys !! all da best for those who make it to nov obs !!! i dunt hav any offer for nov obs.. sad

[babygod]

It is because i rejected the first offer on Oct 13. then i got offered Cargo on the 2nd time? Same scenarios as sexauman. Also posted to cargo.

[max232]

hey guys..its good to hear that everyone's slowly gettin called...
i guess none of the malaysians have been called yet..by the way..are the intakes in lumut n the one at s'pore taken at the same time??? and i certainly hope any of the malaysians who are called will post their message soon so the rest of us can know where we stand..thanks n gud luck!!

[shyhhaur]

Hi max,

wat u mean by "are the intakes in lumut n the one at s'pore taken at the same time??? " ? there is only one intakes in nov and tat is nov lumut obs. meaning to say, there will be only one obs in november and it will be at lumut..

u r wrong, my batch got a malaysian already confirmed on nov obs, he 's now waiting for his emplyment pass to clear....

[middlekingdom]

Hey shyhhaur,

I thought the malaysians wll have to clear their employment pass first before getting called by SIA???....

hey max,
i guess we have to wait patiently....they might call us anytime (but of course not 1 week before the course starts)...could be this week or next week....just hang in there...pray..

To all our friends who got called...Congratulations! and hope to see you in Seletar soon...

[bong_kw]

hi guys!

i'm a malaysian and yes - i got my email confirmation letter from Mdn J already. But when i called her to request about my employment status, she jus said tt it is still in the process. well, i guess it doesnt take that long for the employment pass issue to be settled. all the best and see u guys in seletar!

[max232]

bong..when did u do your medical? ...the reason i asked abt the intakes in nov...was because i thought that only m'sians are sent to lumut whereas s'poreans are sent to the OBS in s'pore..and i thought they'd have different intakes.........anyway...mr E told us that they'l only contact us once the medical n employment pass i done...as far as i can remember...anyways...thanks guys!

[jagr]

for those who have experienced how SIA works, does it mean that if I tell them I only need 3 weeks notice, they'll really wait till its 3 weeks left before they call?

anyway, big congrats to all those who're on their way to storming the skies. gd luck to the rest of the hopefuls.

[areuinsane2k]

Hi guys,

i am new to this thingy. I am supposed to join the sep intake but have been delayed till nov. coz i needed to give a long resignation notice. Currently waiting for letter to arrive. Waited for almost 3 months!
So for those still waiting ...be patient..
i believe in fate....

Perhaps those who are attending the nov intake can meet up before the course starts....

By the way , how u guys know u are in cargo or passenger?

Anyone keen?
I can be reached at [email protected]
hope to hear from u all soon!

and good luck to eveyr one else!

Melvin

[shyhhaur]

just another day of waiting...anyone receive good news today??

hi guys,

maybe we shd compile a list of who is already in nov obs? from wat i know:

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod
4.
5.

anymore? please cut and past the list and add on..yeah baby

[db07]

Melvin and I went for our medical in July.

Joyce has just called me too. =)

Cheers to all!

[saxeuman]

Yeah, think its a good idea to meet up and get to know each other. Anyway, to those who are waiting, all the best.. look forward to see you guys soon.

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod
4. saxeuman (cargo)
5.

[S.T.]

Hi Guys,

I'm also going in this November. Adding myself to the list....

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.

So anyway...if you guys are meeting up...keep me informed ya! Cheers.

[db07]

Hey guys, do keep me updated about the gathering. And the list just got longer..

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.
6. db07

[babygod]

Updating the list. another bro to the list.

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod (cargo)
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.
6. db07
7. Shyhaur

[areuinsane2k]

Updating the list. another bro to the list.

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod (cargo)
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.
6. db07
7. Shyhaur
8.areuinsane2k (another late comer)

[ambit]

dudes, just a humble advice....u guys (batch 116-5 if I'm not wrong) are heading for OBML (Outward Bound Malaysia Lumut), do start execising. There will be alot of kayaking, trekking, etc. Speak to friends who have been there (done it) before you. Always good to do some prep work.

Seeya guys in Seletar in end Nov (or early Dec). At the meantime, we are looking forward to the arrival of batch 115-05 guys next week!!

All the best and take care.

[max232]

wohoooo!! guess who's joining the nov intakE!!!! me!!!!!! wohooooo!!!! i just got the letter this morning!!! there's never been a happier day guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hope my batch mates will get their letters soon!!! wohoooooo!!!!!!

[shyhhaur]

Updating the list. another bro to the list.

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod (cargo)
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.
6. db07
7. Shyhaur
8.areuinsane2k (another late comer)
9. max232

[streetguy]

max232,

that mate of yours would be me haha...
yeah I got the letter the same day as u...max232...hehe...

see u guys in nov...

[shyhhaur]

Updating the list. another bro to the list.

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod (cargo)
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.
6. db07
7. Shyhaur
8.areuinsane2k (another late comer)
9. max232
10. streetguy

[gavin25]

Updating the list,another bro to the list.

1. bong
2. swifter
3. babygod (cargo)
4. saxeuman aka Steven (cargo)
5. S.T.
6. db07
7. Shyhaur
8.areuinsane2k (another late comer)
9. ma 232
10. streetguy
11. Gavin25

:D

[shyhhaur]

great idea swifter !!! too bad im on night shift until my last working day, see how lar, i will try to attend..how bout 19th nov nite? place to be decide later??

[NinerVictor]

Congrats to all you 116 guys. OBML can be quite demanding, so like Ambit says, do some conditioning before you go. Also, bring a handheld GPS if any of you guys have it (be tactical of course). You'll appreciate it! See all of you soon at SFC. Have fun!

[winglet_fever]

eer..

did i mention there will be a ex-OBS instructor in C116??

you guys are dead lucky!

Do read up "sailing for the dummies", will save you heaps of arm strength while cruising on your "yacht".

lol

its tough but lotsa fun..... =)

[saxeuman]

thanks swifter for organising it..

i'll be fine with most of the evenings except for on the 22 nov. may i ask what sort of training will we be given in obs, anyone?

cheers

[bomohtitan]

Hi guys, got a call from cargo today and i'll be joining the nov 25th OBS batch.

[bomohtitan]

Thx swifter,

Unfortunately I'm Malaysian, and I don't think I'll be able to join the gathering. No matter, we'll have plenty of time to suffer together during OBS.

Btw, another 2 blokes who were in the same batch (2nd stage interview) with me also got the offer to join the Nov25 OBS.

[max232]

hey there..how you guys doin...sory that we..malaysians wont be able to meet up with our fellow s'porean batch mates earlier befoire the intake....anyways...bomohtitan...when did u do your med?? wel..its not stated in my offer letter whether it'l be SIA cargo or SIA...so i was wondering which il be joining..
one more thing....once we leave lumut...are we gona join seletar immediately after that...and hows life in seletar since its a military base as someone told me..hehe..just being kinda excited...hehe.. k then hoping to see ya'll soon..

[Aloyscious]

Hey people,

Is it possible that you fail the first interview for SIA passenger and now SIA cargo is calling me again for the first interview. I already did not pass the interview for less than 2 months and now they reviewing me again? Please help me out..anyone in this situation before??

[shyhhaur]

yo max,

yeah,, i also dunt know wat kindof life in seletar but there is no need to find out in advance, exp it urself !! hoho, i m sure it will be both fun and stressful (exam)

?? y malaysian cant join the pre-meetup org by swifter? i am a malaysian too but im going man !!! yeah, join us lar, can talk

BTW !! Boeing 787 DREAMLINER RULEZ !!! wah ha ha ha, dunt know if sia wanna buy this bird or not, i think this bird is so cool

[Paper Plane]

Hey people,

I have applied for the position of cadet pilot once in July and again in Sept. Sadly, there have been no news from SIA till now. I certainly look forward to the career as a pilot! I need an interview to get started, be it successful interview or not. Sigh...

This is my status so far,

Age: Just turned 25
Qualifications: Engineering (Hons 3rd class)
Job experience: Nil (not considering part time)

Anything wrong with this status that doesn't qualify me for an interview? I plead for your opinions that can help me in anyway. Thank you.

Paper Plane

[predator79]

may i know what do the doctors check for for medical checkup

[shyhhaur]

Hi predator,

eyesight- short,long vision,colour...hearing- put in in a concealed room, then cap ur head with a BIG headphone...chest xray...blood...urine-for drugs abuse??...your heart !!-ecg...your bmi and some routine knocking on ur stomach to see if u got a sotong in ur stomach

then 2nd stage, mount E hos: hearing again, doc will see if ur ear is clear from wax etc...eyesight- same as above+shine ur eye with a torchlight...

did i miss out anythng????

[WhiteOak]

God damn it OBS is @#$%#@$^@, But fun filled and I do really enjoyed it a lot, looking at the positive side. If you guys want to train up for obs, do a bit of running and train your detoids endurance (for kayaking). My course and I enjoyed our Outward Bound alot, and we knew each other better true all the activities. Some advice will be;

1. Bring 2 shoes (1 x wet, 1 x run)
2. Snake powder (Mandatory)
3. Try to bring a camera, our course only had a camera to capture the kodak moments.
4. Sun Block (Mandatory-Go for SPF 50)
5. An Open Mind

Its wonderful to see you guys made it through the interview. For those guys who are still waiting up, no news is very good news. For those guys who are wondering if they should give up trying applying for SQ ab-initio, do not give up till your last drop of effort, good things don't come easy.

Enjoy your holiday!

WhiteOak

[bomohtitan]

Hi WhiteOak,

Other than the stuff you mentioned above, is there anything else we need to bring there (clothes, equip, etc).. cos I'm currently compiling a shopping list for OBS and also SFC.

Btw, I'm looking for one of those kinetically charged flashlights, any idea where to get them in M'sia?

Thx,

bomoh

[NinerVictor]

The activities for OBML are:

1) Kayaking
2) Sailing (Whaler)
3) Jungle Trekking
4) Rafting
5) Rappelling
6) Rock climbing
7) Running (Not a lot compared to Ubin)
8) Games etc

The activities might be similar to Ubin, but the terrain is totally different. Bring a pair of glove if you are prone to getting blisters. You'll be paddling or rowing alot if there is no wind during your whaler expedition. Also, bring vinegar, ointment or other stuff to fight leeches and mosquitoes. You'll be seeing alot of these bloodsuckers. The SAF insect repellent is very effective against leeches. Bring LOTS of re-hydration salts. Those that you can mix with water and drink. It helps alot during your final expedition. Lastly, bring a nice pair of shades to look good for the camera.

Don't overpack, as most of the equipment will be provided. All I can say is that OBML is fun, so go physically prepared with an open mind, and you'll enjoy the experience with your new buddies. Whatever it is, take care not to get injured. All the best, and have fun!

9V.

[max232]

hey guys thanks so much for the tips...i really didn't know what to expect.. at least you guys are giving us some kinda sneak preview of the OBS.. hehe...well then..after OBS are we going immediately to seletar? and which part of the course will we be goin to aussie n how long will it take there..since its not mentioned in the contract....??! k then..chiao!!

[winglet_fever]

hi hi,

6 months at seletar------------------------- theory
9 months in perth--------------------------- flying, C172 and baron
1 month at STC, aka babe land----------- Learjet theory
3 months in maroochydore ---------------- Learjet flying
another about 3 months or so at STC --- theory and simulator, fleet conversion, 777,747
(add couple of days/weeks/months inbetween each phase for waiting period)

then after, you are checked out as 2nd officer. =)

[predator79]

shyhhaur.. thanks for your reply..

hearing test.. bad news.. some problem with my hearing after years in the army... how does the test works...? thanks

[bomohtitan]

hearing test would be conducted with a pair of headphones in a soundproof room.

a series of beeps (3 octaves, with progressively decreasing volume) will be played to your right ear and then your left.

if you hear the sound (or if you think you hear the sound x_x) you press a button.

[max232]

hey thanks for the info man!! just to check?? STC is in s'pore>??
haha was just guessing the babe land thing??!? coollll :ok:

[shyhhaur]

STC=SIA Training Centre, the one u went for final interview...so fast forget oledi?

[WhiteOak]

Hey 116,

For your reference, I'm not sure if you guys have the check list for ob lumut. I attached a packing guide for your reference.

http://www.obs.pa.gov.sg/participants/bring.htm

WhiteOak

[shyhhaur]

yo Whiteoak!

thanks man,,, i think i will bring all the items listed in the website....hohohoho

[shyhhaur]

hi guys,

any idea besides clothing and toiletries, wat else we can/recommended to bring to sfc? laptop? small tv? small fridge? cooking utensil? tons of maggi mee?

thanks !!

[areuinsane2k]

To course 116, for those who are coming for the 14 Nov meetup, please list below:


1) Swifter
2) Saxeuman
3) shyhhaur
4) S.T.
5) Babygod
6) Bong
7)areuinsane2k
8)
9)
10)
11)
12)

Shall we meet at 1900 suntec city right after u crossed the bridge from marina? near the polo ralph shop if i am not wrong....any form of identity to identify each other?

[trance]

Hi Guys,

All the best to your OBS training, hope you guys had fun. Treasure and cherish the times you will have together and try to build up the bond between each others.

I had just got the call up from SIA to go for my first interview on the 17th of Nov, next Thurs.

Kind of nervous as this is my first time hope everything goes smoothly for me.

Any guys out there who are also going for the first interview next Thurs? Do give me a buzz so that we can discuss more.

Regards,

[LongHill]

Hi, really looking at you guys going for Lumut OBS with envy, hope I can make it through the interviews to be a cadet pilot as well.

Trance, I will be going for the first interview on 17 Nov too! ;) Super nervous and excited! :\ Juz wondering where to go for the eyesight and colour-blind test... will any neighbourhood medical clinic do? :confused:

[trance]

Longhill,

Congra' to you too. All the best hope we will previl.

You can take the eye & color tests at any GP around your house cost around 30 bucks, save your money to go to the eye centre.

What time is your interview? Mine is in the noon 1415 hrs.

Cheers,

[LongHill]

Thanks for the info, and best of luck to you too! :ok: Mine's at 0915hrs.

[Limpeh]

To all those joining SFC in the near future:

You do not need to bring that many things to SFC. Most of the stuff that you require will be provided by the College.

Your uniforms will be arranged within days of your arrival, and you should receive your uniforms within 2 weeks. Textbooks and essential stationary will be provided, like calculators, nav rulers.. etc. You may elect to bring in your own calculators if you so wish. Do bring paper to write on, for your own notes.

Living in Seletar, again, most amenities are already provided, like washing machines, TV, fridges... no air-con. You may bring in your own stuff, like laptops or other electrial/electronic appliances if you require them. Otherwise, everything is provided.

You may wish to bring in a bicycle (if you have one) for convenience.

For those with aviation headsets, bring them if you have it. You can use them on your flying training.

As for cooking, your meals are provided, and Jalan Kayu is near if you want supper at night. Hence, there is no need for instant noodles, but light snacks like chocolate and sweets are recommended. This will help you stay awake during class... Another recommendation is a thermos flask for storing coffee / tea / hot drinks. Again, essential to help you stay awake in class... especially after lunch...

Congratulations for those who have joined, and good luck to those going for your interviews.

[max232]

hey thanks a lot for that info...really appreciate it..
regarding the OBS at lumut..will they be checkin all the stuff that we bring to ensure that all barred items are not brought in?? of course im not plannin on bringing any..hahaha wouldnt dare take that kinda risk..k then thanks!!

[Limpeh]

Max and all the others going to OBS Lumut:

You will be searched on arrival at Lumut. You will be required to surrender all your electrical and electronic appliances, which will include your PDAs, handphones, GPS if you have any... You will also be required to surrender your wallets and passports.

Smokers, you will have to surrender your cigarettes. Any food will also be confiscated. So, no chocolates, sweets, instant noodles, canned food... etc.

As mentioned in the briefing package, most items will be provided at Lumut, but you may elect to bring some additional items such as candles, solid fuel, lighters, insect repellent(s), mosquito coils, hydration packs (Camel bags are good), jungle hat (essential if you dun wan your face to be burnt), sun block, hunting / diving knives, disposable water-proof camera, booties... think that's about the stuff you need. Again, most of these items are optional.

Enjoy your time there. Minimal running required, but the expeditions are quite demanding. Leeches will be a HUGE problem. Avoid them if you can, and ALWAYS check when you can. You'll never know where they may end up. :)

You may want to bring some money over to purchase souvenirs and food en-route to and from the airport. My course ended up at KLIA for a well-deserved beer while waiting for the flight back to Singapore.

Enjoy yourselves at Lumut!

[Arkdriver]

Don't forget to bring hammocks for the solo camp... and fer chrissakes please remember to tie up your cupboards before you head out on expeditions.

Suffer and have fun and bond, people.. it will make seletar so much better

[saints]

Hello there brothers,

Congratulations to all who got their favourable reply for Nov OBS intake.

Im eagerly awaiting mine:D

Just curious whether there will be any test/assessment for those undergoing OBS training?

[dinomax]

Hi,

To course 116, when are u guys leaving for OBS lumut?

To Saints,

Nope. Just complete the 21 days of OBS n get that certificate. :)

Limpeh, u from which cos huh??

[Limpeh]

The OBS programme has no specific "tests" or "assessments", rather, it is a programme to challenge YOURSELF. Depending what you bring to OBS (I dun mean literally...) you will inevitably get different results when you leave.

I learnt a lot about myself, and what I want to get out of the programme. Again, it is about challenging yourself. It is not the expeditions, or the climbing or the activities that matter. So, go with an open mind. You'll never know what you'll learn out of it. Once again, you should never stop learning. It'll make you a dead pilot.

You guys will probably not see me in WSSL anytime soon, though I may drop by once in a while to see my friends. I'm not very keen on identifying myself here, but suffice to say that I am currently flying on the B777 fleet.

If you've got any questions, I'll try to answer them as well as I can, remember, I was once a cadet like you guys, so I know what you're going through.

Cheers!

[trance]

Hi anyone went for the 1st interview on the 17 of Nov thurs, if you got any replies from SIA through email please kindly inform the others here so that we know that SIA has make some actions.

Thanks & Regards,

[LongHill]

Hi trance,

I went for my interview on 17 Nov, and I juz received email this morning asking me to go for 2nd round on 22 and 23 Nov. Really didn't expect such a fast response. :D

Hope you received yours too. ;)

[VAMP]

Hey Longhill,

Congrats dude! Anyone that went for the 18 Nov Friday, received any replies?

Keeping updates.......seems too quiet this thread these days...

VAMP

[trance]

Hi Vamp,

Did you also went for the first interview on 18 Nov?

You are still waiting for the replies? Keep all brothers posted here if you have.

It since that longhill got his replies faster than us.

Longhill how it goes for your sec SIT test ?

[VAMP]

hey Trance,

Good to hear another of one of us is waiting. Did you go on the 17th? what did they ask you? I went on the 18th. Anyone else did and got any response?

Thought the interview went ok, crossing my fingers now. All the best to the rest of us.

Cheers,

Vamp

[trance]

Vamp, lets just pray and wait.

Good luck to all other people here.

[LongHill]

Hi guys,

Good luck to those going for their 2nd interviews. Guess what? I've cleared mine, and will be going for medical tomorrow!

For those who attended the 1st interviews (esp the 17 and 18 Nov) and are still waiting for news, dun lose hope. For my 2nd interview, there were 10 of us (8 from 17 Nov AM session, 1 from 17 Nov PM session, 1 had his 1st interview 2 months ago!). So you see, you can still be called up for 2nd interview as long as you have not received any rejection email.

The SIT tests were alright. Think they want to see you participate actively in group work/discussion, and are able to both lead and cooperate with others as a team.

Best of luck to all aspiring pilots!

[trance]

Hi longhill,

Thanks for the information appreciated that. I hope we people out there who are still waiting for the pending results will get what they want soon.

All the best to you dude.

Regards,

[VAMP]

Congrats Longhill,

Good to hear to make the cut. Hey trance, that could possibly mean that none of the 18 Nov batch got called up or went for 2nd inteview yet. So there's still hope for us.....hehe

VAMP

[trance]

Yup, pray hard for the replies from them. Hope you will get yours soon.

I got mine this morning I am not selected for the second interview.:(

All the best to all brothers here.

Regards,

[VAMP]

Hey Trance,

Really sorry to hear that. Are you going to try again?

Is there anyone else here besides who is still waiting and praying?

VAMP

[hrc]

Hi all ....
Does anyone know how long after can we reapply again after being rejected for the first interview ?

Thanks

[VAMP]

Hey hrc,

Common understanding is usually six months. I reapplied after three months, and continue to do so every two weeks, but they only replied after the six months interval. Then again, there are some who got called up again less than that.

Did you went for 1st interview recently?

VAMP

[hrc]

Hi Vamp...
Yeah... went for my first interview on the 17th of Nov but got mine rejection letter this morning. Guess i'll have to try again ....
Cheers

[trance]

VAMP,

Good luck to you hope you will get yr wish soon.

For sure i will reapply again after 6 months. The spirit in me will never die off unless I reach 32 which is the cut off age.

Regards,

[VAMP]

Hey guys,

Sorry to hear abt yr results. If flying is yr passion don't give up yet. I still haven't got any newst, so hopefully no news is good news. Heard that they've got 2nd interviews lined up for 29 and 30th Nov. Anyone out there who lucky enough to make to these dates, all the best.(and who may they be???)

And those who still waiting like me, don't stop chanting. It seems pretty quiet this thread nowadays, did the bulk of the wannabes migrated to somewhere else? or are they just playing audience...hmmm

Come on guys, it's comforting when we know others are in the same boat, enduring the wait and aniticipation...


VAMP

p.s. let me know if there is another commonplace ................

[gonzales]

Dear all...

Thanks for all the encouragements and tips given out on this thread. Really appreciate it. Wish I could have "stumbled"onto this forum earlier though.

Well, second attempt for me at the first interview on the 17th...but alas..the result of the interview arrived about 2 mornings ago and it aint good. :(

After reality hits and painfully sinks its way through me, I am not too sure if I would want to have another go at it any more. Such setbacks are rather hard to take especially when you think this is THE career that you are destined for.

At that moment, many thoughts race past me....Is it really that I sucked in the interview or am I just not cut out to be a pilot? I mean, when u don't suceed in your first interview, you know something must have screwed up or you are basically not prepared. However, getting rejected at your 2nd attempt's got to mean something doesnt it? Maybe I shouldn't have started off saying " oh..i wanted to be a pilot when I was young.." when you know it's the dead truth...haha. Or maybe its SIA's way of telling you "..for the second time my friend, you are not suitable for this job.." *sigh*

Oh well, from the previous post from vamp, I understand its 6 mths before sia reconsiders you for the first interview again? It's gonna be a looong 6 mths wait for me ...but hell, I waited about 2 years after my first interview to re-apply again...so why not 6 months?

Alright, enough of my rubbish. All I can say is; all the best to those who were selected, and keep those hopes up high to those that are waiting. Finally to those who tried and not suceed, don't give up! (I wish I could say that to myself though...haha)

And please...if another "commonplace" exists...do show me the way...;)

Take care one and all!

[BlueEagle]

SIA are not telling you that you are not suitable to become a pilot just that, at the moment, you don't fit their mould.

Now that you have had two goes you probably have a gut feeling of where your weak points are and you now have six months to work on them! Are you a Singaporean and over 26? Are you a Malaysian and have they recruited their quota for now?
Remember the majority of SIA cadets don't start training until they have completed their tertiary education and their National Service.

Always tough getting a "Thanks, but No Thanks" letter, now put it behind you, work on your shortcomings and better luck next time!:ok:

[WhiteOak]

Gonzalas,

I agreed with BlueEagle, IMHO there are many ways of moving forward, however there is only one way of standing still. In all our living years, we made some mistakes, we received certain rejections. We can't whine at it all the time, nor even in the future. Pick yourself up and move forward, learn from your mistakes. Knowledge is only useful and critical, when you have a tough decison to make.

Good things don't come easily my friend. Go for it!

WhiteOak

[gonzales]

Thks guys for all the encouragement given here! Guess I have to take this positively if I really want to be a pilot ya?

Blue eagle : Am above 26 and below 32. A true blue Sgp here too. I am basically a "NO" to all the questions on the last page of the application form. (less the "Have you applied for any other position in SIA" of course.) Completed NS and tertiary edu, in fact, have been working for some time...


White oak : Thanks for your encouragement! Very soon I am gonna turn this forum into a "pilot rejects anonymous" hahaha....(my apologies..lame joke)

BUT seriously...thanks again whiteoak and blue eagle! BTW, are you guys by any chance a FO or SO? B777 or A340 flyers? Or the B747?

[Limpeh]

Hi,

From your post, at least you do sound like you have done some research on SIA's fleets... and that is a good thing. There are many other interviewees who have absolutely no idea what is the physical difference between a 777 and a 747.

Even so, there are some fellow pilots that I know who lack "passion" in the job. Some are in it for the money, sadly... but hey, there's all sorts of people everywhere.

Dun be disheartened about your lack of success for the interview. This goes out to the rest of the "rejectees" too. There is a pilot I know who went for the first interview SEVEN (7) times, and now, he is a Captain. So, try again.

Good luck for your next interview!

[JerryMaguire]

Hey chaps, it's great seeing the determination in some of you...for those who are disheartened, pls pick yrself up. :o)

Think abt it, it's only the 1st round...u can try for it as many times as u want to (though there was some rumour going that they'll only give each chap 2 tries now)

I applied for the position round Jun, got called for 1st round a week later and then the 2nd round another week later...frankly, I was interested in Aviation and have been playing the microsoft flight simulator for a long time...gave it a long thought and decided to embark on this career...in fact, was pretty convinced myself that the interview would be a breeze...read a couple of airline interview books as well and prep a lot of notes...even went to the extent of meeting up with no. of FO friends and even a CAPT just to find out more...

BUT I DID NOT GET THROUGH THE 2ND ROUND.

Honestly, I felt really bad coz this is what I really wanna do....fly...but was not given the opportunity becoz the interviewers think I might not be suitable for the job. (especially so becoz was told that once u flung the 2nd round, it's the end of the road) Either I did not manage to convince them of my passion or they saw some other things lacking in me...

Nonetheless, I'm not giving up and neither should u chaps! Have done some ground check and there exists some pilots in SIA who have reattempted the 2nd round and passed...amazing but true.

So I'm bidding my time, do a deeper reflection on what went wrong and perhaps give it a long shot after I've sorted myself out.

For the 1st interview, I think the CAPT and the HR chap are just ticking checklist of sorts....my experience was that they were pretty systematic in the asking of questions and honesty is important. Try substantiating watever u say with examples. ie, when they ask if you are afraid of heights and u've done airborne jumps, indicate so. When they ask if you'r claustrophobic, tell them if you'r working on a ship or confined quarters. Plus read up on SIA fleet information and basic technical stuffs on flying. Think that shld suffice....they won't go too deep into details...just an indication of interest to fly and display of some sort of leadership.

In life, there are the gifted ones and the dilligent ones. Both shall be successful so long as they are passionate abt what they do :o)

[jagr]

hi all, I just received email from SIA inviting me for course starting 6 Jan, whoever else is in do post here as well. Cheers!

[Terryble]

hey jagr , i'm in too.. just received the email from sia

6 Jan 2006 intake
----------------------------
1) jagr
2) terryble
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)

Anyone else out there joining pls add on the list... :ok:

[predator79]

bros here.. really worried about meeting the Cadet pilot requirements.. hope to hear some advice from you on my qualities.

Age: 28+
Qualification: Engineering Diploma (singapore), Non-engineering 2nd upper honours degree (Australia)
Results: O'level (english D7, math B3, Science A2, Chinese B3, literature C5, Technical B3) Degree (6 higher distinctions, 10 distinctions, 3 credits)
Ns rank: Army Officer
current employer: CAAS
Height: 1.65m - 1.70m
Eyesight: Perfect after lasik

What's my chance of getting called up for the interview... welcome any comments.

[VAMP]

Hey Guys,

Phew, after a gruelling 1 week plus of waiting, received an email from SIA for 2nd Interview on the 6 Dec 2005. Wow!

Anyone else going for the same date?
Any word of advice from the veterans........

CHeers

VAMP

[hydrop]

I'm quite disappointed that some of my friends who are sia cadets can't even tell the difference between the boeing 737, 757 and 767.... and to think that there are many out there who have the true passion for flying...are not selected. :(

[predator79]

hydrop...

you seem to question the passion of the current batches of cadet... did you fail your interview?

[Deepsea]

VAMP,

IMHO, just be yourself. You can try to "pretend" to be someone else and clear the interview, but somewhere down the line, things will catch up with you.

Remember, the panel are seasoned pilots. They have seen hundreds and hundreds of applicants and CAPT M has seen batches and batches of pilots from interview till they pass out into the fleet and he still "sees" them. Like it or not, he knows what he wants and if he sees through your pretense, that's integrity problem and you are history.

But there is still some prep that can be done. Read up on the facts and figures. Its unforgivable if you don't know a 777 from a 747. They look for attitude and passion. Knowing all the answers is not important. Its the spirit to learn that they want.

Just to share, my interview had a guy from MFA who I believed "aced" the interview. He was able to answer highly technical questions that I know nuts about. Turbines, diesel, flight physics....blah blah blah. Didn't make it.

Another guy, couldn't remember who his YFC instructors were, but admitted it gracefully. Askedl why the Piper has 2 magnetoes and how they are wired. Attempted with what he knew, then siad " that's all I can remember sir, I should not try to bull you." But he made it. Training with 114 now.

Yet another one, was asked about diesels engines cos he works in car sales. Answered ok, but CAPT M went on to ask about the compression ratio....Of course he freaked out. Heard CAPT M shake his head and said "pity, such fundamentals".....

But he held his head high, said he will go read up. now with 115.

All the best in your interview. Rest well before the first day.

JERRY MAGUIRE,

I am also waiting for my current bond to end. I like your last statement : Some born, some toil. But both succeed. Hope we will be batch mates someday.
:ok:

[jagr]

During my interview, Cpt M said that many interviewees have told him that their dream plane to fly is A380. He asked me if I could tell him what I would like to fly besides that.

After some thought, I told him the truth that the A380 is what I thought I would like to fly. No harm, rather than lying that I dream to fly something else and get caught with his next question I stuck to what I wanted. I said I was curious about the plane and guess he liked the answer.

117er reporting in.

[VAMP]

Hi Deepsea,

Thank you so much for your advice. There is much truth in what you had said. Initially, when I went for my very first interview, it was like all prepped up and such, yet I didn't make the cut. This time round I made the ultimate decision to be just myself and carried with me the prepared knowledge of the fundamental technicalilties and the truth about me. At the end of the day, if it is meant to be, it is meant to be and if it's not, life must go on. After reading much into this forum, my own summation would be "To each his own", there is no define standard citeria that they are looking for....preparing helps but doesn't confirm.... Like they said "No two take offs and landings are the same"......so some had it easy, others had it the hard way. But don't give up trying or be complacent, as you'll never know when it'll come and how it does. And if it does, you might as well be prepared for it....:ok:

I wish all the best to the rest of us........

[trance]

Hi VAMP,

Could you check your PM, I have a question for you thanks.

Regards,

[yourarm]

Wow im really inspired by White Oaks encouragement. He seems like a really wonderful guy who knows his stuff. He seems to be the type who really can inspire us to be the best and to make use of our capabilities to the fullest. Whiteoak I sure hope you become my batch mate. What a wonderful guy...

[VAMP]

Hi Longhill,

Dude, sent a PM to you, check it asap...hehe

Thanks

VAMP...

[LongHill]

Hi jagr/terryble/Osprey_78,

Congrats to you guys on the offer! May I know when did you go for the medical? Just to get an idea on the waiting period between the medical and reply from SIA.

VAMP,
Sorry for the late reply. PMed you, and a long one too. All the best for your 2nd interview!

LongHill

[jagr]

Hi Longhill,
It mostly depends on how long notice you need to quit your current job as well as course availability.

I did my medicals on 23 Sep, ought to have entered 25 Nov OBS but due to some miscommunications about my notice period, I ended up with the 6 Jan OBS. One of the fellas who did medicals with me started his OBS on 13 Oct as he was unemployed at that point in time.

[LongHill]

Hi jagr,

Thanks for the info! Congrats on making it as cadet pilot! Bet most of us are looking at you with envy :D

Good luck for the OBS and the subsequent challenges ahead! Do give some tips on surviving OBS after you've gone thru it. ;)

LongHill

[sgrookie]

Hi,

I'm currently waiting for confirmation from SIA as well. Apparently, my batch went for the medicals on 11 Nov, out of 5, 3 of them have got the confirmation already! Contract should be on its way to them now. They're starting on the 6 Jan too... Except for another unlucky guy & me... :confused: Hope that the wait wouldn't be long...

LongHill, are you waiting for the confirmation like myself too?

[DsboA]

heya sgrookie haha " the other unlucky guy" talking bout me???haha anyway lets just suck our thumbs for the next few days...

Perhaps we have to wait till the "magic" age of 25 1/2???

Thinking of calling the HR dept once the others get their contract to see if they can shed light on our situation...

[asdfg]

Guys,

This is my first post here. I confirm i just had an email to join the January 6th batch. BTW I am from Malaysia. See you guys there.

[sgrookie]

Dsboa: You're right... Please let me know what they said about it as well... Until then, cheers! Where did you hear about the magic age anyway?

[kennteh]

Hi guys,

Kenn here... Its good entering this forum, I don't feel alone in this long, stretching wait!!!

I've done my medical a week ago and still waiting... Heard from Edward (admin officer) there during my second interview that the course in Jan 6 might not start if they dun get enough ppl...

Not sure how true is that, but nothing is concrete until you sign the contract...

Was hoping to get into the Lumut course... sounds like more fun than ubin...

KT

Hi,

Btw, for those who have gotten replies, may i know how they actually reply to you? Thru email, letter or phone??? So that I would not be at the wrong end of the line waiting... ha!!

KT

[willc]

hey dudes, bros, future mates...

First post here. Found out this thread after clearing all the interviews, 1st..2nd. Well, just got an email from SIA, confirmation of clearing my medicals and employment pass.. and fitting in for the Jan 6 batch. asdfg (if i'm not mistaken) and me are from the same interview batch.. 15Nov.

hey kenn, is it true that they'll put the Jan 6 course on hold if there's not enough ppl?

Anyway... looking forward to meet you guys.. jagr, terryble, Osprey_78, asdfg, ban

[kennteh]

Hi Willc,

During our 2nd interview on the 23rd Nov, Edward told us that the Jan course was a request that they never had. He mentioned that its likely there wouldn't be enough ppl to start b'cos those still working would only want to tender their resig. after this work yr, which would then entitle them for their bonus...

But i think otherwise... those which are able to start imm. will be pushed into the Jan course, so from various batches, they are able to select the imm. ones...

This is just my opinion. When did u receive your confirmation and how was it made known to you? Hopefully i'll rx mine by next week...

KT

[willc]

hey Ken,

I was inform tru email first to confirm my availability on Jan6 before SIA forward the contract package to our add. It seems like there are 6 of us from this thread confirming on the Jan6 intake. Well hopefully the course won't cancel last moment.....

[kennteh]

Hey Willc,

Congrats on your acceptance by SQ. My first interview was on the 23 NOv, so i suppose my confirmation will come in next week if everything goes on smoothly...

I hope the Jan course goes on smoothly too... So far there're 6 of u guys in this forum, but there will be many others out there not involved in this forum...

When i saw the list of ppl that came for medical, there was quite a fair bit... at least 20 of them incl. me...

Hope I get into the same course as u guys, keeping mua fingers crossed. Also heard from someone that we won't be the only guys in the OBS, heard that stewardesses etc will be involved too... dun know how true...

But, weren't we given the Lumut OBS form to fill in?? If that's the case, I'm not so sure if Lumut or Ubin will be our start point...

KT

[predator79]

kennteh..

FYI, stewardess will not be involved in OBS training. ;)

[ban]

Hi guys,
not to worry. From what I know, there are several more that is going for this intake.
For my interview batch, out of 9, 3 of us made it. But now, I am the only one being called up. What about you guys?

[kennteh]

Hi Ban,

May i know which interview batch you're from? Or rather, when was your medical done? Do you still remember the date...

I was told the reply would be between 2-3 weeks from the medical date... so, i'm just trying to predict when i would rx mine. Hee...

KT

[sgrookie]

Just a quick question, are all those people who receive their confirmation letter 26 yrs old & above? Cause I'm quite curious about this...

[ban]

Kennteh...

Me and my 2 other buddy did our medical on 28Oct.

[Osprey_78]

Hi all, logically speaking i don't think this 6th Jan will be cancelled. I think there are lotsa' pple out there waiting eagerly to be called up by SIA for this intake. I for one, gave up my bonus (so-called company's biggest payout somemore!) to join the 6th intake. So if they would to cancel the 6th, it would be a double blow for me (idle 1 month and lost bonus ;) )

Another reason is i think this course fits in very nicely. By scheduling it from 6th to 26th, they have avoided the clash with Chinese New Year. This means we will get to enjoy CNY first before shipping out to the 'rig' ;) . (Heard this 6 months in Seletar would be toughest life of a Cadet Pilot)

So take heart! I'm sure there will be many others out there like me who would jump at the chance to join the cohort rather than waiting for some short term gains like bonus. Time is of the essence. The sooner we start, the sooner we get our hands on the Cessnas/Baron/Learjet/777/747/340s!!!!

For Beechcraft , Bombardier , Boeing and airBus!!!! (The quadruple Bs!!)

[Limpeh]

Hi guys,

Just to make a slight correction...

At this point in time, when you finish your Cessna / Baron / Learjet, you'll be put onto the B777 fleet, EXCEPT if you signed up for Cargo, and in that case, you'll be on the B744 fleet.

Currently, there is no plan to have a Second Officership for the A345. So, if you're passenger fleet, it'll be the B777, Cargo, B744.

Cheers!

[jagr]

Hi all

Welcome all other 117 mates on board. FYI the OBS location is confirmed to be Ubin, those who filled in the Lumut form will have to go back to CAAS medical to get the medical results transferred. Those who have yet to go for medicals I suggest you may want to download the Ubin form from its website and bring it along for your medicals.

Osprey, same like you I gave up my bonus to join the course as well! I don't think anyone is going to give up the chance to join for their bonus instead.

Hey Fliegen,
Wilkommen und freut mich!

[jagr]

Wait for your contract to arrive, all the necessary instructions will be in there

Meanwhile start getting fit, I was told at ubin we will run twice a day in incremental distance!!

[willc]

Hey bros...limpeh,

Regarding your statement on the fleets and on our employment, just wondering will it be indicated in the contract on which division would we be joining...passenger, freight..etc? Or we'll only find out after completing fly school... anyone any idea?

[kennteh]

Damn...

I hate running. Well, but if they put my "wings" in front of me fitted to my head hanging from a bamboo pole, I might just start running...

KT

[Terryble]

willc : you will know from your contract's letterhead which company u joining, pax or cargo. As for fleet, if pax will by 777. If cargo, then 744.

[on_the_right]

guys,

lucky bunch of ppl. just a little thought, does it really matter whether its pax or cargo. ppl out here are dying to just fly any jet after paying for their flying for the past 4-5 years and building up enuf experience before getting a look in ...

from what i gather, 26 is the miniumum age for u guys to be picked .. they shud increase it to maybe 30 .. so that u guys think before u speak .. and dont ask silly questions like which "terminal we'll go through when operating flights" or "stewardesses being involved in the OBS" ..
cheers mate

PS : this is directed to a few of u .. u know who u r

[willc]

hey there, on_the_right... you certainly sounded not too pleased with some contents in this thread. Oh well but I'm sure you got your point there.

terryble: thanks for the info though... just a thought cause the terms read differently for pax/cargo. But at the end of day... like what on_the_right said..heck cares.

[Terryble]

hi willc, no problem. We are all here to share info and experience. ;)

[Thermal Image]

on_the_right

So now you're the expert on when to say what?

Not too long ago you were also an expert on training standards / quality of English in SIA / SFC:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=195539&perpage=20&pagenumber=3

Quite a few people expressed their opinions about what you said, myself included.

But then you went quiet in the face of all that.

Now you surface again for some trolling?

Are the school holidays boring you, little man?

[on_the_right]

thermal image ..
i did read ur post ... its kinda ridiculous that u posted ur senseless mind again out on this thread ...
just browse through a few posts (in this thread), read them urself ... and then talk abt any standards to me .. got that !

[rloh]

on_the_right:

mate, age is not an indication of virtue. a very good indication is yourself. if being older makes one think more, then why are you here spouting nonsense?

true, granted that working in GA for 3 years for your ATPLs & slogging to accumulate your 1,500 hours is hard work but being offered a cadetship is a once in a lifetime opportunity. anyhow, i find it quite ironic that given that you want to apply for a particular airline & yet you look down on others? Jesus... You're an absolute disgrace to pilots. I wonder what sort of CRM skills do you possess...

[kennteh]

...

Personally, I think this forum is great, it seems most of the users of this forum are helping each other one way or another... its the freedom of words that makes this forum interesting...

but i think whatever whoever says breaks no bones. If you're as mature as you think you are, you probably wouldn't have written those. haha... anyway, we're all sitting on the learning curve, And i don't think you're 30 the moment you're born, right?

Last, don't try to suggest changing the policy if you're not even close to the board of directors!! ".. they shud increase it to maybe 30 .."

You know who you are...

p.s: Humble...

Cheers :)

[winglet_fever]

you know wat?

.....


up yours. stop pointing your fingers.

sorry guys, i tried to resist.

[BlueEagle]

OK guys, back to the thread topic please and on_the_right you are coming close to being banned from this forum if you can't offer something constructive, abuse does not count.

[jagr]

adding another batch mate to the list

6 Jan 2006 intake - UBIN
----------------------------------------
1) jagr
2) terryble
3) Osprey_78
4) asdfg
5) ban
6) willc
7) Fliegen
8) sgrookie
9) kennteh
10) LongHill
11) Middlekingdom

Anyone got any detailed itenary, packing list for ubin to share?

[asdfg]

Guys,

Did any of you sign the bond already ? I would like to know what terms my surety should expect b4 signing it.

[ambit]

congrats to all who are joining the family, and I hope the good news will come soon for those who are still waiting. Have fun course 117.

Do take care and seeya guys in SFC in end Jan06!! In the mean-time, we are looking forward to the arrival of course 116 tomorrow or Monday morning.

[Osprey_78]

Heh heh...we do sound like some reservist unit no? 116, 117...only missing the 3 digits behind like 117 SAR. heh heh.

PS: It does not stand for Singapore Armoured Regiment. It stands for Singapore Airlines Recruits. ;)

Cheerios! Looking forward to meeting the rest of the flyboys in 117!! :))

[xiang310]

Hi all... i'm new to this forum
and jus like many of you out there... i'm waiting for the email/call from SIA.
Have to agree that the waiting time is kinda.... hmmm..... unpleasant. hahaha .... But still the feeling of waiting and getting it will be great!
Good things are worth waiting for rite?? =)

Cheers Everyone! Hope one day we'll all get our dream job!

[VAMP]

Hi Xiang,

what are you waiting for? 1st interview? or after medical?

Hi everyone, is the above list for the 6th Jan batch finalise? Are there anymore going for the above intake?

if i am not mistaken(and please correct me if i'm wrong), they usually fill it up to 20 cadets for each batch. Isn't it?

[trance]

Hi VAMP,

Good luck to you.

[xiang310]

hi vamp

i'm currently waiting for news... had my medical done.
hoping to be able to join the 6th jan if possible... hahaha

heard that 6th jan is filling up pretty fast. Besides.... guess there are many ppl who yet to come across this forum... wild guess...

Cheers!

[VAMP]

hey trance,

thanks dude......i need some luck for the last hurdle......

Hey Xiang,

great!.....good luck to you too.....when did you go for your meds?

it's two weeks to 6 jan...so i guess we all miss the boat man.....

any ideas when will be the next intake?????

[xiang310]

hi

i'm not too sure about the next intake... i only know about the 6th jan only... so crossing fingers *and pray harder* =)

Anyway.... Merry Chirstmas in advance everyone!

cheers!

[winglet_fever]

Ho ho ho,

Merry Christmas to all..

for those joining jan 6th, it will be your best christmas present ever.

Just a littel info... looking at the present trend, there's a new course joining SFC every 6 weeks and more than often it will starts on fridays. Its just a rough guide.

[Paper Plane]

Merry Chistmas to all!!

I have just been called up for the 1st interview on Jan 04. Anyone getting an interview here too?

Paper Plane

[xiang310]

hi hi all

I've jus recieved a call from SIA. I'll be joining the 6th Jan intake along with 2 other of my interview mates

Cheers to all !!

[Terryble]

6 Jan 2006 intake - UBIN
----------------------------------------
1) jagr
2) terryble
3) Osprey_78
4) asdfg
5) ban
6) willc
7) Fliegen
8) sgrookie
9) kennteh
10) LongHill
11) Middlekingdom
12) xiang310
13) x1
14) x2
15)
16)

the list so far...