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Outlaw

16th May 2005, 14:37

MAS opens up vacancy for cadet pilot again!!!:confused: i just dont get!it's like everyone i know who applied and got a call up just dont seem to get through the aptitude test.all those fellows that i know are really high flyers in studies and i dont see the point of them getting rejected bcoz of low IQ??!!:yuk:

Think thats wat u get if ur crazy of flying and have a passion for the aviation industry.If u just 1 2 go for the money,then i think MAS will take u in.Come on MAS!!its the age of LCC now and u've got to do something to stay up unless u want to continue going down the s**t hole!!:mad:

Start paying to someone who has an appreciation for the aviation industry.:ok:

Thumbs up for Air Asia for the tremendous growth,Thanx to Mr.Tony for bringing us this airline.:ok:

To u guys out there,want to hear ur views on this man.all views accepted negative or positive.

To any pilot or anyone who knows something bout the operation of twin otters by MAS,plz provide some info.would like to know the status of the operations,are they gud and wats the ticket price like and no. of flights per day.thanx.

Thermal Image

16th May 2005, 15:03

Stop writing SMS style and maybe someone will give you advice.

Lazy people like you don't deserve a response further than this.

flightleader

16th May 2005, 16:17

Outlaw,

1) You are just applling for cadet pilot, looks like you did not pass the simpliest of all which is the first step to aviation.Besides you fail your aptitude, I think your attitude has a serious problem! The name 'Outlaw' has said the lot.

2) Don't praise someone gives you empty promises, try go for your 737 course with NO manuals. Yes, no manuals. Is this organisation gonna make you a good pilot?

3) If you are a young chap in your 20s, please mind you language! There are a lot of professionals on this forum and mostly much older than you are. In Malaysian culture, you have insulted your parents by using this sorts of language in the presents of elderly(worst still now the whole world read it).This also shows you upbringing.

4) I thank God ( and the person who fail you) that you missed the cut. Otherwise,I have to do the job of fixing you straight when you start flying with us.

5) Who are you to condem the airline? ( I mean THE AIRLINE in Malaysia!). You are not even a cadet yet? Now, with this sort of ungreatful,sour grape,childish type of attitude, the only thing same for you to fly is a KITE! Now,go to the field and leave this forum to the professionals!

:ouch:

threepwood

16th May 2005, 23:58

Hey all!

flightleader, I agree with you on the respect part; but, with all due respect, don't you think you should be a bit less aggressive? I do not mean any disrespect, but I would like to give you- and everyone else for that matter- a friendly advice: please be friendly when criticizing people:D.

Back on topic. Do you think MAS will ever take foreign cadets? I am willing to pay every and any dime they ask for if they just accept me (better to pay for a (presumably) guaranteed job than a degree! Or so is my opinion).

threepwood

flightleader

17th May 2005, 03:24

Threepwood,

Mas does not take foreigners as cadets, I personally wish they do. You would probably become much better pilot than 'some' of the locals.

The youth of (Malaysia) today has an attitude that make me sick to my stomach. I'm only in my mid 30s and I feel it. Just take a look at the way they trash MFA on this forum and trying to warn MAS and AA. Little did they know that most of the people of MAS aware of MFA problems when these young chaps are still in liquid form! People like 'Outlaw' only know how to blame others for their own failures.

I'm not normally this nasty but for someone who carries the national flag on my back whenever I fly,I feel
responsible to correct 'Outlaw' who show no respect for others from the first post.;)

Outlaw

17th May 2005, 07:13

hi flightleader,

U mean me being not respectful for writing like that??just check the other post in this forum and then you'll know there are a lot more ( and i mean it ) ppl than me out there who uses "rougher" words than me.just go and check out and i really feel pity for u because for being a 30 years old brother (respect);) u dont know this??

And do you know what a forum is for?It's a place for anyone regardless of their age to voice their comments,either it's positive or negative.So please dont try to think that everyone on this world doesnt make a mistake.If you have something good about MAS to tell,carry on with your views but dont try to stop others from sharing their thoughts.:ok:
Otherwise,the forum will become a place to advertise a company...try selling MAS tickets on this forum...:)

Anyway i did pass my psychomotor test but not the psychometric test.And again if u think that youths like me is not supposed to voice out their views and just sit around listening to their parents,then i just dont know what else to say...:confused:No wonder our country's R&D is very "good",because the younger generation is deprived of their freedom of thinking.Come on sir (respect),please grow up....Anyway not trying to be rude,which third world country are u from....?if you're not from one,please stop acting like one sir (respect again) ;)And if ur trying to be professional,why dont just put ur location...maybe your country's in the location box...what's downunder??? Oh yah,if u know anything about the operations of twin otters,please share your info.thanx sir (respect)
Sorry......
:ok:

May all the youths rise high in their challenges.

babyboeing400

17th May 2005, 10:11

Outlaw,being a good pilot is not about how many As you have on your academic certificate..it's also about your aptitute and talent to be a good pilot.If academic archievements is the only factor to be taken into consideration when MAS is recruiting cadets,then I personally think they would just be bringing in bookworms in to become their future pilots.You didn't pass your MISPA test,it's either u didnt have a high-enough aptitute to stand out among everyone else or it could be a problem with your attitude and personality ;-)

kipas

17th May 2005, 11:53

Yup..if you fail your MISPA test,it doesnt mean that you are stupid .Maybe they see you as another CAMEL in the making..
:cool:

Susheel

17th May 2005, 13:03

Dude,

where did u get the info that they are recruiting cadets again?? was there an ad lately ? if so when and where?

Cheers

tompret

17th May 2005, 13:49

Outlaw,

May I know your ethnic and your origin, please. Did you attend the qualification test conducted by MAS and you did not make it?
Do you aspire to become a pilot?

The way I look at your expressions, sorry to say that you just dont have what it takes to become a pilot. Go take your dreams somewhere else and with such an attitude, you wont even make it ab-inition flying training.

Your paper qualifications does not determine your flying ability. So, if you have failed to qualify at the initial cadetship programme entry test, then you can might as well just go and fly kites.

Skyline

17th May 2005, 14:00

Outlaw, don't even bother applying for the DHC6 fleet unless you have a passion for real hands on flying. Cowboy style. In the real world these days, light turboprop time is basically worthless anyway to jet operating airlines (includg MAS) but flying the Otter does improve your manipulative skills and increases your appreciation for weather and terrain! MAS management has basically forgotten it has the TwinOtter under its wings. Guys have been slogging it there for almost 5years now with no signs of promotion to mainfleet ie F50 and above, and direct entry pilots to the upper fleet bypass you in senority everytime! It is a comfy life though with mostly daily flights and the occasional nitestop within Borneo. MAS currently operates 5 aircrafts with crew flying 6-7 sectors perday. DHC pilots are on a diff payscale and earn diff benefits then their other counterparts flying heavier aircraft. Nobody understands the biasness. And MAS wonders why nobody applies for the TwinOtter! Perhaps if they did treat everyone fairly and just, things would be different. Kudos to the management of MAS.

I dont see the relevence of ticket price.... but all tickets are heavily subsidised by the govt.

As for the MESPA test, the results don't really make a difference. If they want you, they'll accept you no matter what. I've seen idiots get accepted. Its basically a reason to fail your entry into MAS if need be.

If the grass is greener elsewhere, why stay and eat hay? Same job, lousy benefits. Like a genius said, it isn't the pull of the $USD, middle eastern carriers are offering that is making pilots in MAS leave, its the push factor within MAS. Lousy management and lousy benefits. Syabas MAS!

Outlaw

17th May 2005, 14:35

hi susheel,
yes MAS is still recruiting cadets again,u can check their website at www.malaysiaairlines.com,and it is still going on.Dont know when their going to stop it.

But i see that your location is in australia.are you a malaysian?if no then sorry because MAS dont take in non-malaysians as their cadets.If your a malaysian then apply and all the best to you.:ok:

Hi everyone,

Thanx for ur views.maybe as you\'ve said it could be my attitude problem,well that has to change doesnt it?thanx again.

To skyline,thanx for your info on the twin otter.it\'s just that when almost everyone is fascinated by the big jets,i really admire the twin otter.I just love to see them rush down the runway during takeoff when i\'m around the airport.Anyway thanx again.:ok:

Oh yah skyline, are you a pilot for the DHC-6 fleet?

flightleader

18th May 2005, 05:52

Outlaw said:

'Come on sir (respect),please grow up....Anyway not trying to be rude,which third world country are u from....?if you're not from one,please stop acting like one sir (respect again) And if ur trying to be professional,why dont just put ur location...maybe your country's in the location box...what's downunder???'

From what you have said above, everyone knows you're below 25 years of age. Try look into a good map and see where is 'Downunder'.;)

Look at the replies, don't they tell you anything? I'm not saying young chap like you has no right to speak up( and noone can ever restrict your thinking), just that blasting at MAS is not an appropriate thing to do just because you are not in it.

I don't advertise for MAS but I speak for all the great people who hold up the the good name by contributing professinally. MAS has nothing but some great people behind it.Well, you may just too young to understand this.

I can see that you're turning around after reading the replies. Please straightern yourself up before heading to the sky. Being a pilot is all about discipline and nothing to do with straight As and attitude larger than life will dig you a big hole in the ground earlier than you would expected.

Regards,

Flightleader.

bck2basic

18th May 2005, 06:43

I can't but agree on the part of flying is not about A's etc but MAS is so selective in thier intakes that even somebody with the right attributes is overlooked because one can guess one's "R".

I think to be fair atleast MAS should start taking in locals who have the relevant Licences but can't get in due to some shortfalls in their qualifications rather than open up the flood gates for foreigners.This should be their last option.Cheers..........

Brianigham

18th May 2005, 07:11

:) Hi folks,

Lots have been said and is going to be said about this beautiful company MAS. I have been browsing this forum for years now, mostly reading the more technical post, picking up on a wealth of infomation and great tips from some great pilots out there.

I am all for, outright honest postings. An anonymous forum like this provides that platform. Its also very forgiving on the occasional outburst.

Dear Outlaw,
I hope this doesnt offend. The high school grades or college degree with a string of distinctions does not automatically make someone the best candidate for any job, including flying. I can understand your frustration at not getting in and seeing many guys you consider as high flyers not getting the cadet programme offered by Malaysia Airlines. Each and every company has got their own set of requirements and extras that they may be looking for in choosing hopefuls for cadet programmes.

Sometimes they "up the standards" when their demand is low and I am sure sometimes they lower the standards when they really need the guys in. But basically they know what they want. I believe MAS have done a great job in cadet selection. Many people I wrongly categorised as "not so smart" have proven me wrong with their great flair for aviation and the discipline, and professionalism displayed on the job. On the same note many who at first glance seemed to be from the "brighter lot" have also been somewhat disappointing. And I am sure many guys out there who could have been great aviators are slowly accepting the fact that they will never do any flying because they missed out on an opportunity like this. Different companies have different requirements. Look around for other airlines. Try Air Asia.

Though I dont know much about AA, I have heard that they recently employed 2 people that will definitely give the training a taste of Classic MAS.:ok:

You got a long road ahead of you outlaw. Humility, though not necessarily the most important or universally accepted factor, is definitely an important trait in the pursuit of knowledge. This job flying jets with the big boys is just that. A never ending learning process.:)

Susheel

18th May 2005, 10:19

Dude,

Yup im malaysian. Im back now in Malaysia and did apply the last time the ad came out in the papers in March. I did not receive a call from HR.

Got my degree in Civil Aviation from Australia. Thats why the location states so.

Cheers for the info, i'm on the ball.

See ya

Outlaw

18th May 2005, 14:32

Hi susheel,

Well dont worry if u still havent got a reply from MAS yet.You said u applied in March right?There is still a long way to go.I've waited for 3 months the last time before they called me up for the psychomotor test.Why dont try calling these few numbers?You might get some answers.All da best man.....:ok:
pn.ruslina @ 03-78403124 or pn.latifah @03-78402448.

Hi flightleader,

Well maybe i've done a mistake.....it's just that i'm too frustrated at being rejected.I've passed the psychomotor test and I dont think the IQ question was tough for me,just some logic sequence test and some simple maths.So the only place where the problem could be is the personality test.I just dont see how the personality test could be a measurement of one's real personality.....,i mean anyone could just tick an answer which they think will satisfy the selectors....dont they??:confused:

Niway thanx everyone for the advice.Flightleader,are you a pilot with MAS?If yes what fleet are you in?you're an FO or Capt?Thanx:ok:

cav-not-ok

18th May 2005, 15:02

outlaw...

sorry to hear about your rejection....hehhe. anyhow.. it could be because of alot of things.. for instance,

your behaviour/conduct during the sessions, your dressing, the way you answered the questions in the apttitude test (always be honest, never try and be a company man when you do that test), your age, your height, and lastly, your race..

getting in to be a pilot is hard, getting in to be a cadet is harder.. so don't worry, try again, try elsewhere, or wtf, forget about being a pilot and be a business man and earn 3x,4x,5x,oox a pilots pay. being a pilot is not that nice and rosie as it seems from the outside. it is a very very stressful job, with very little security, and freedom. there's no (or at least a very troubled) family life.
the studying never ends, and if you make 1 mistake, you pay with your life.

so, think. ask yourself, do i really want to be a pilot. do i really want to risk my life everyday, do i really want to keep fighting for my job, or do i want to be a millionaire who has pilots working for him. hehehe..

dont blame MAS, they might of just saved your life. i mean, you look at these forums, at the newspapers, these people dont seem very happy.. they are just doing what they can and trying their level best to avoid getting screwed. BUT if you really love flying and will do anything to fly, i hear the RMAF has some pretty good openings. and some nice planes too.. heheheh

GOOD LUCK...!

flightleader

18th May 2005, 15:45

Outlaw,

I've ~8000 hours,all jets and more than 3000 command hours. You can guess where I am.

Your hair stlye may have more significant than the paper of that Personality test .

Bought you new world map yet?

Cav-not-ok,

That's a good joke!:ok:

Brianigham

18th May 2005, 16:32

;) Yeah,I'm around that amount of flying too. Mas was a great place to be. Still is good.....but we are in the process of deciding where we wanna go. UP or BUST. That will be decided soon by the Board.

Outlaw! Have you tried AA. Give them a shot dude!

Its 2 different things you see.....

A person just wanting to get a job and a person with quite a bit of flying experience looking at his options.

If you are just trying to get in. Do it with open ears & eyes only. You know the 3 monkeys thingy:ok:

Then when you have EARNED those wings and been around for sometime, had your feet trampled on. Have crap shoved down through the line and really know your stuff, then I recommend you use the other apparatus, especially when you are making statements about the IQ of a group of people.

Cheers! Just for your info . It took me about 2 years to actually get in. Some gave up after the 3rd year of trying, had their parents morgage nearly their whole life and go do it on their own. They didnt come in crying foul and behaving like the whole world owes them an explanation. Having said that, in all fairness a little gusto is always good if you got the goods!:)

BlueEagle

19th May 2005, 00:23

".....,i mean anyone could just tick an answer which they think will satisfy the selectors....dont they??"

Absolutely fatal! You certainly don't give the answers you think they want, you give the truth. These tests are constructed in such a way that they can quickly pick out someone who is trying to beat the system rather than just give truthful answers.

Outlaw

19th May 2005, 02:44

Hi,

Hmm.....maybe a lot of thinking has to be done.....but still flying is where i want to be.Well for the other airlines, i think maybe i'll just sit around and finish up my degree first,still got few more months to go.then my application letters will be filling up the desk of AA,SIA and RMAF....hehe.Niway bout the RMAF,dont seem to be able to get in to their website......Just dont know why their having one when no one is able to view it....:ok:

flightleader

20th May 2005, 14:04

ToPocHi,

You sound like a cadet alright. I can see some aptitude there. My main aim to correct Outlaw was not for the company's name,but as a senior in this industry and as a senior ( not very) Malaysian.

There are so many problem with the system today that produce large amount ( not all ) of youth with an attitude that 'everyone else owe them a living'. MAS is not oblige to take anyone in but that person himself has to prove himself to be creditble first by passing all the stages of tests and interview. If one can't make it, nobody is to blame except himself.

Now, put some effort in MFA, come into MAS and face the real challenge. It will be rewarding. :ok:

triplebogey

21st May 2005, 01:01

yeah, then log up some hours and experience then leave for another airline....which will be MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE rewarding...if you survive your time in MAS.;)

aspire1681

21st May 2005, 16:16

TPH,
MAS giving 65%?????......... KAHkahkahkahkihkihkihkihhihihihihiui...hhehehehhehheh..... Sorry brader...... just couldn't help it.

cav-not-ok

21st May 2005, 21:52

he topochi..

need a tissue? there's a brown stain on your nose.

we'll see how you feel about the company 6~7 years from now.

Shintaro9

22nd May 2005, 01:31

ToPoChi,

Those were my exact sentiments when I was doing my cadet training in the 70s. I thought I owed MAS everything as they selected me, they'd then look out for me and take care of me.

Well, sad to say they never did. Management had this notion that we were overpaid and that they they were too generous with the benefits (annual leave and 1st class travel). Slowly all these are being taken away. Sadly, Flt Ops management pilots, who are first off all pilots, are involved in this scheme to take away our benefits. Look, everytime we negotiate a new MoU, our increments has been peanuts. That's why we are in this predicament of being once amongst the highest paid in the region to now being one of the lowest.

65% pay increase? Well.. fantasy stuff. In my 26 years with MAS, there was only twice (if my jurasic brains remembers right) that we got a double digit % payrise. That too was around 10%. MAS has refused further negotiations and final offer is at 25%. Reckoned they are going for arbitration. And looking at newpaper articles and so on, the layman on the sreets have the impression that our pay is already excessive (more than the PM even). IMHO, even after arbitration, we're looking at around 25%, if not less (FYI 25% could be the biggest pay rise MAS has ever given).

In the 70s when I was a SO on the F27 based in BKI, MAS seconded some captains from East-West Airways from Australia. They were in the mid 40s and were the best F27 pilots ever in those days! They thought our salary was a joke, but came over nonetheless take a break from "flying in Aussie land" and have a "holiday". 2 years later, East-West took them back.

During one of my annual leave, I went to SYD and caught up with them. I went to one of the capt's house. It was a huge bungalow, by the sea (Sylvania Waters), had this beatifully manicured garden, swimming pool, and parked outside right infront of the house by the jetty was a speed boat and a sailboat. He had 3 cars, 2 luxury sedan and a pick-up. He said he was able to afford all this because his company pays him well. Well, in those days his salary was 3 times more than our local capts already.

But for me, the biggest disappointment is that MAS is hiring expats on the 744s, our premier fleet. If MAS thinks about taking care and looking after their pilots, this would never have happened. I have nothing against the expats, but I feel sad that expats are flying our premier fleet, when it has never happened before and could have been avoided if we had decent, and above all honest management pilots looking after our interest instead of theirs.

ToPoChi, I pity people like you. You are only starting, soon you'll see the real MAS, and you'll be disappointed. But my advise to you, take it a step at a time, and do your best everytime. Get your command and then look around.

My further advise is for the established pilots. KNOW YOUR WORTH. If MAS cannot appreciate your worth to the organisation, there are others that do. It's a pilots' market now, take the opportunity to better your lot and improve the quality of your life. You at least owe your family this.

And you remember those East-West pilots that I was talking about? Well, the Malaysians that are living the equivalent life like the East-West guys are all working for Emirates, Etihad, China Airlines, Korean and so on.

Jolly jolly.:ok:

Outlaw

22nd May 2005, 08:47

Hi everyone,

Is life in MAS that hard?Hmm......How about the scenario in Air Asia?Is it the same?How come i dont see any Air Asia pilots posting here?Glad to have some feedback from them.:ok:

aspire1681

23rd May 2005, 01:34

I don't think they have the luxury of time.

Quietachiever

23rd May 2005, 12:29

Go to Air Asia. May the force be with you.

triplebogey

25th May 2005, 09:26

ToPochi,

Congratulations on your selection and i applaud you on your positive attitude and you commitment to your profession.Thats the way most of us felt when we were at your stage.When you come back and join us after training you will see the real picture and i would keep a copy of Shintaro's post and re read it again after sometime. But by then i am sure you would have your own opinions and i do hope that by then that your hopes of a caring company would prevail.At this moment in time its far from that.
Good advice has been given by some of the posts before and you sound like you have the right attitude towards your career.Keep it up and you will find yourself
ready for the worlds market when the time comes if all your hopes with MAS has been dampered.

regards

Giant88

26th May 2005, 09:21

TPC:
In MAS:
1: Medical benefit: subsidized- means we have to pay 50% of group hospitalization insurance. Limit: FO 40k a year. Capt 60k a year. Balance; fork out your own cash. If you have family: sorry no outpatient coverage. Outpatient treatment to panel clinic: limited to rm28 per visit. Anything xtra, the panel clinic will be removed frm panel list the following year. Even your wife deliver, prepare your own cash.

2: Bond: you are bonded for 15 years, means you cannot leave MAS for 15 years. At the same time they deduct your salary monthly to pay back your training fees. To cover RM150k in 15 years, thats close 1.5k a month. And its only happening in MAS. There is no other organization, that you pay back your training cost and serve the bond at same time.

3: Once you finished your ab-initio training, it depends on com requirement. If you're lucky, you'll be in 737. If not stuck flying Otter. Again if your timing is correct, you won't be long on narrow body, but if you're not, you'll be there for at least 3 yrs. Some even longer. Again as you comin back in big group, the training ie sim, line training will take much longer. In 96-99 cadets were sent as cabin crew because training dept can't cope up.

4: With current MAS's fleet, and 1100+ pilots, if your seniority num in the 1st half, then command is not that far. Definitely you'll be the juniors on your joining date, so your command will take very long. Even now FO with seniority num in the mid 500 to 600 still on right seat and some of their juniors are already commander because comp says: "we cannot release you for command due ops requirement" and at the same time taking expat as capts and 747 fos.

5: Travel: the annual privilage travel is not a confirm seat. You and your family may be bump off in the other side of the world if suddenly your return flt is full. There is this instances where capt's family was bump off the flt in Paris, and poor capt has to fly back Paris KL knowing his family stuck in Paris.

6: The lists goes on. Once youre in then you know why pilots are leaving...

BTW good luck. Don't put so much hope in MAS then you'll not be disappointed and frustated.

ness_83

26th May 2005, 15:17

Hi flightleader,

I have a very strong passion to join MAS as cadet pilot. i have submitted my application last 2 weeks and i am still waiting for the call... Normally, how MAS call candidate to turn up for interview? izzit using phone call or email... During the duration of waiting, what should i prepare in order to get through all the interview stages..

flightleader

27th May 2005, 02:55

ness_ 88,

Good for you to have an aim in life.

Don't sit and wait too long. After 6 weeks of your application,you should call them. Do your research here, alot has been said.

Good luck.

toptac

28th May 2005, 02:53

I can't remember who was the one who said that if you join AirAsia, "May the force be with you". I agree with him. The new DFO is managing by fear (fear to his subordinates). If you want to know who or what he is, ask the ex-airforce especially the ex-fighter pilots or the existing senior fighter pilots. Even his cosway downlines (like me) are thinking twice to join AirAsia or sending their kids there. But, many hope that he will change. I really hope so, for the sake of the pilots and the cabin crew in AirAsia.

With the new pay revision, I was told that pilots are still sending cv all over the world.

EverettWings

28th May 2005, 03:48

Ness_83...i believe you're off to a good start already. Havitng passion is the first step to becoming a pilot, or a cadet pilot for that matter. In the course of training, there will be times when your ATPL studies will stress you to your bones and that's when the passion will come in. Everyone seems to be talking about pay scales, benefits and the like. But seriously, if flying is all you wanna do, then it doesn't matter who you fly for be it for a national carrier such as MAS or the LCC's like Air Asia, Tiger, or JetStar. So my advice is to apply to other airlines, not just MAS. SIA takes Malaysians, apply to Air Asia, take out a loan and enroll at MFA. Keep that passion up and don't give up on your dreams.

Ghostrider777

30th May 2005, 01:45

Hi topochi,

Good that u have the passion for flying.I just cant disagree with outlaw about those without any passion for flying going through.I've seen quite number of them.Funny that the personality test cant show out someone with the real passion.Anyway topochi,good luck to you man........Adios!!!

SQ007

6th July 2005, 18:47

Hi all, I have applied for the cadet pilot position in MAS since March, and still have not got back any replies from them since. I have also emailed them twice to enquire about my application but there was no reply as well. I am just so dissapointed with them for not calling me up for an interview as I have a degree in engineering. I'm not saying that I'm the greatest person on earth with a degree, since being a pilot is not about how many 'A's you've got like some has said, but I do believe I stand a higher chance compared to SPM holders. I really hope my race is not the issue to them, because that would have dissapoint me even more. Cheers...

cav-not-ok

6th July 2005, 23:20

well, with a screen name called SQ007, it really aint a big surprise.

not very patriotic are you...

MAS can sense the darkside in you... if you rename your screen name to MH007, then i'm guessing you'd have a chance.

authentic

7th July 2005, 05:21

Hi there
it is true that having degree helps you in applying for MAS cadet pilot. But then again, in my experience( i got called just by my pre vet diploma), you also need to be active in your extra curricular and add in your CV. Because MAS needs not just academically qualified cadet,but they also need people who has leadership and has good social skills.

good day everyone and never stop giving up ! and never stop asking yah :)

SQ007

7th July 2005, 05:21

cav-not-ok, for me, it's not about patriotism. It's about my passion for flying and I would take any offer from any airline for their cadet program. And no, I'm not with SQ, not yet at least. Like you said, it's just a screen name. Yes, I did go for their interview and passed it, and I'm now waiting for an offer but there seems to be some problem. I might not be patriotic to some, but I would think that at least SQ called me up for an interview when MH don't even want to look at my application. If MH offers me before SQ, I would have taken it. Cheers...

authentic, I was active in extra curriculum and I did put that in my CV. Cheers...

Ghostrider777

7th July 2005, 07:43

Hi SQ007,

Cheer up,just look through a few topics before this and you can see that quite number of them got their reply after 5-6 months.So don't give up,just keep trying.If they dont call you after 6 months,write in again.As you can see in the MAS website,the cadet pilot position is still open for application and as far as I can remember,it is open since last year Nov.

Bro,it also seems to me that everyone who have applied will get their call up.Looks like MAS is quite desperate for cadets,no.....?So just keep on trying.....Good luck to you bro.

Ghostrider777

The Rage

7th July 2005, 08:22

"Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full":cool:

Ghostrider777

8th July 2005, 03:15

No harm trying mate.......:ok:

Brianigham

12th July 2005, 16:30

:ok: Dont think its your degree or your race sq007. Mas really needs people in . I am sure they have some sort of quota system in place though. What i heard when I was a cadet many years ago was that it was 7:2:1. I presume you fall in the 2 category ha ha . bit of a riddle there.
;)

Anyway I had to apply many times.......they seem to be loosing and misplacing apps. its becoming a lousy place to be a pilot. I hope you get into SQ....I believe it has better prospects. You spend many years in Mh on lower fleets, which has its great times.....bbbbbbut......as you can see by your no reply.....its a little blur. We all have a good time with each other though!

All the best.
BrianIgham