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CATHAY PATHETIC
20th June 2001, 17:59
To members of the travelling public the issues involved between Cathay Pacific and the pilots are complex and confusing. This is not helped by the media who only receive information designed to bolster each sides position. Hopefully the following will give an insight to the major issues involed.

In the late 80s and early 90s Cathay Pacific pilots were amoung the worlds best paid. The company payed salaries greater than many other airlines to attract pilots to Hong Kong. In 1993 the company began a series of surveys amoung the crews to gauge attitudes towards pay and conditions.

In 1993 the company introduced a two tier pay system which continues until today. Pilots employed before 1993 are on the so called 'A' scale salary package while pilots employed after 1993 receive the 'B' scale package. The difference between the two scales is significant. B scale crew receive approximately 30-40% lower salaries than A scale crew. The company also lowered the standard of benefits such as staff travel for B scale crew.

In 1994 the company introduced a new contract for pilots which involved an increase in productivity. Leave was cut from eight to six weeks and overtime pay was slashed. A scale pilots had their pay frozen at 1993 levels.

In 1995 the company decided to employ crew at greatly reduced salaries to fly Cathay Pacific freighter aircraft. ASL as it is known allowed direct entry Captains and First Officers to undertake employment with Cathay Pacific on salaries lower than that of the B scales introduced in 1993. Employing direct entry crew made the promotion of Cathay Pacific pilots much slower.

In 1999 the company presented A scale pilots with a new contract that contained pay cuts of up to 27%. The pilots were told to accept the pay cuts or lose their jobs. Note that A scale pilots have been on frozen pay levels since 1993.

Recently the company began a campaign of indimidation called an Absence Management Program. Pilots who are unfit to fly 6 or more time in a year receive a disciplinary letter. Crew are also being interviewed to discuss their absence.

The company has also been conducting interviews in Malaysia to employ crew at greatly reduced salaries compared to B scale crew.

In 1998 the company reduced dental benefits for crew claiming the policy was too expensive to operate.

Recently the company, without the consent of the IRS issued a letter to all flight crew that housing allowances used for mortgages would be taxed at the maximum tax level.

Recently a company manager claimed that he would fire 50 pilots on the 1st of July to force the union to call off industrial action.

The company is also preparing to charter aircraft from other airlines to cover the slowdown on the first of July. Cathay pilots are also concerned the company will resort to employing pilots from mainland China at greatly reduced salaries.

The rostering negotiations which are at the heart of the dispute have now continued for more than four years. The issues are crew fatigue and overtime pay. Current rosters are unstable and do not compensate pilots who work overtime. Cathay pilots want an overtime system to discourage the company from employing insufficient numbers of crew.

Salary is also an issue. A scale pilots want to have their final pay cut on the 1st of July stopped because the company is making record profits. B scale crew are requesting a 12% salary increase with an increased contribution to retirement funds. This will still leave B scale crew lagging a long way behind A scale pay.

On the first of July industrial action begins. If the list above which is by no means complete is not enough to convince you of what must be done I dont know what will. I have spent many years with this company and still have decades to go. To make a commitment to Cathay Pacific and Hong Kong I can no longer accept the treatment I have recieved. As the pilots have said, 'If Cathay is prepared to recruit cheap labour or import other airlines from across the border I want to know about it now so I can leave and get on with my career at another airline.' Why would we wish to stay in Hong Kong and receive this sort of treatment when we can return to Australia, North America etc and work in our own countries, have a better standard of living and be better compensated over the length of our careers?

Cathay Pacific must make a gesture of good will towards its aircrew. This was once the world's best airline, not only in pay but in the way staff and management worked together. Now Cathay is a pathetic basket case employing pilots who are worse off than if they had remained in their own countries. I came to this airline because it was the best. It can be again but we need the management to chance thier course of constant degredation of benefits and the intimidation of its pilots. Otherwise Hong Kong is going to lose a great deal of its highly motivated and experienced pilots.

[This message has been edited by CATHAY PATHETIC (edited 21 June 2001).]

sigma
21st June 2001, 00:31
CP,
A very informative post. I understand your feelings and the issues involved.
I hope that all turns out well for both sides.My best wishes to you Sir.

FL390
21st June 2001, 02:00
Good luck to everyone at CX. I know that if you want to succeed you will and hopefully, you can get that "management" kicked out in the process.

wishtobeapilot
21st June 2001, 05:29
Cathay Pathetic,

Thank you for a very informative chronological timeline of the pilot's situation. Please be aware that the majority of the general public do not have a clear understanding of your issues. And with management making bold statements on TV, it doesn't help your side either. I support your cause but I also hope that you can also let the public know more about your situation. Anyone watching last night's news will know that the management publicly stated that 747 captains earn more than $3 million a year. I wonder if it's really that figure...maybe in the States.

Tornado Ali
21st June 2001, 05:48
Wishtobeapilot, thank you for your considered reply. I agree that a full effort is necessary to blunt the managements 'Goebells' like tactics. My underlying thought is one of calm confidence however. The reason for this is the knowledge that if the only way the company has got to fight is through the gratuitous use of lies and distortion, then their case is a weak one, and their efforts will eventualy lead to failure. It is worth remembering that during the 99' dispute, the Press began by giving the pilots a very hard and unfair hearing. By the end of the dispute, the company was recieving the negative press. The longer this dispute goes on, the more eventuality that the Press will begin to show a desire to uncover the 'facts' about our position, and start to ask CX management some hard questions. I don't think the HK Press enjoys being taken for a fool by CX management anymore than we do. As for the 3 million dollar sum, I have been here 15 years, and my earnings the past 12 months have been 1.68 mill. A far cry from 3 million. It is worth noting that a comparable pilot at United Airlines would be on a salary of 2.8 mill hkd, NOT to mention his pension plan (I don't have one...) which would pay him a value of over 5 million USD...!! The sick thing about the 3 million claim is that the ONLY 3 pilots in the company who recieve anywhere near that are in fact the very same management pilots who are orchestrating the attack on the rest of us. The immorality of what they are doing (and especially the likes of the mouthpiece Tony Tyger) is breathtaking. In the end the truth will prevail, and these men will be held to account for driving a once well run and happy company into the ground. All we want is to be accorded a modicum of respect and professional courtesy.

air pressure
21st June 2001, 06:02
It's official. As of today, the new Delta pilot contract has been accepted. For comparison sake, a brand new Delta 737 Captain will now make more than a 15 year CX 747 Captain, and that is before even considering the millions of US dollars he will collect in retirement. Excuse me Tony Tyler, but what were you saying about CX pilots being 'highly paid', and 'amongst the industries highest paid'.....???? Dick and Head. If you think we are going to back down (...and that is in spite of your predictable attempts at intimidation and threat...), you are making a very expensive mistake. Most of us don't care anymore Tony, and we will NOT continue to work for a company that treats us so shabbily. Time you moved onto another part of the Swire empire....like bottling (and you know what you can do with one of those bottles don't you...?)

Herb
21st June 2001, 08:28
CP...I am afraid your posts only lead to personal attacks. PLEASE do not post during the dispute. OFFICIAL. This is business and personal attacks are definitely not called for, from the pilots side of the fence.

Please guys lets keep it it business like. NO MORE POSTS UFN. PLEASE.

Magenta Line
21st June 2001, 10:07
Sssssshhhhhhhhhhhh...............sh.

GK
21st June 2001, 18:19
CP made a good post and it's something that should be conveyed to the general public. Go and translate it into Chinese, and put it on the front page of the all the Chinese newspapers.

Battlefield CX
21st June 2001, 19:58
CP what part of keeping it quiet do you people have trouble with, it only lets the man in on your thoughts !!!