info about S/O recruitment in Cathay Pacific?

[mig21bis]

I would like to know any information about S/O recruitment in Cathay Pacific? I have resently apply and I Have a Personal Reference Number. Do they realy care about the flying hours and age???? I am 22 and I have 2150 hours(1560 in turbo) so I gess I am Ok in flight experience/age criteria. Any help or info Will be very useful. Thaks a lot and Good luck to all in the forum.

[a330]

can't you see what is happening here ? i would like to suggest you to seek more info and read more postings then only post it here and what do you think ?

thousands of cx applicants has a "PRN" , i guess that you just have to que up and read what it says on the letter they sent you .

just a thought .

[JJflyer]

Hey there Mig21Bis...

Your hours would certainly qualify you for the job as S/O. Suggest you send you application in and see what the reply is. Also with your age you can look forward to a loooooong career in aviation so I would not be in too much of a hurry to leave my present employer, unless ofcourse you get offered a better position.
Did you get the message I send you the other day? Check your profile and look in the messages.

a330, aren't you a cheerful little chap.

[smallwing]

a330, you always sound so uptight. did someone in cx gave you a wedgie and a wave goodbye??

no matter how aviation in any part of the world is, we should try to help fellow pilots as much as we can, and can't assume they know everything.

MIGall the best! :D :D :D :D

[a330]

smallwing .. look at this guy .. if he wants to work for an airline and wanna get some info ... he should do some research and have at least a little interest or knowledge about the particular airline that he wishes to join but instead of doing that he thinks that he could sit in front of the pc and wait for info ???

no one at cx gave a wedgie or waved goodbye to me but at least i've got you're welcome to come to HK in the very near future .

and cx is looking for candidates which are interested in the airline and lots of knowledge , so what if you have some t/prop time .. logically no airlines will take you if you do not have any interest or knowledge about them .

i know that we should help others in the aviation industry , but if the person shows no interest ... what's the point ?

and of course , mig .. if i've been a little harsh or uptight like what smallwing said .. please do forgive me , but that's just the way i am ...if you want more info , seriously go search in the archives and do a little research and logical thinking .

regards,

a330 :cool:

[JJflyer]

a330.

It is apparent that you think very highly of yourself. I am happy for you for that. I do not share that opinnion though.
If you havn't noticed PC's via internet are the best single source of information. What is the puropse of a bulletin board do INFORM. Ask the questions get answered. You don't like the question don't answer it.
Mig21Bis asked a completely valid question and deserved an answer.

I feel like talking to a 3 year old... Man these are some very basic behaviour principles. You must be very worried that anybody else has applied to Cathay and is getting ahead in the game. Let me assure you that this is the case. There are dozens if not hundreds or thousands of people ahead of you.
Hope you get your dream job there with all that knowledge you have...

[mig21bis]

A330, I just asked for some information about S/O recruitment criteria of Cathay Pacific and I fortunatly some good people answer me. Yes, I search in all the forums looking for some info but the best info I could get comes from people inside the airline. It is a crime to ask for someone to share some info with me? I gess that this forum is about that, to share info about airline. Unfortunately I can't go personaly to HK because I only live 16000 kms away from HK and I have to work for leaving so I send my aplication to them and update it every 4 months.
JJflyer, you send me info about DHLs Metros???
PD: JJflyer, smallwing thanks and good luck

[Drop and Stop]

a330, I could of sworn that just a couple of months ago you were in the same exact situation as mig21bis is in right now. You kept on pleading for help and getting the sh!ts with the answers. You said (http://www.pprune.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=001718&p=2): "we're all here to help one another", so why aren’t you helping mig? Or is that only the case when you need help? You are not a Space Cadet you’re a Galactic Commander.... :rolleyes:

Mig, I dont work for CX so I can't help you with much info., try looking back at other threads over the past few months here (http://www.pprune.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=7&DaysPrune=100&SUBMIT=Go) as this question has been asked before(just click on page numbers on the top left). Best of luck!

[ 02 August 2001: Message edited by: Drop and Stop ]

[a330]

oh o.k well ... let's share some info here .. yup .. mr mig .. you do of course qualify for the s/o position and heard rumours that there are interviews going on at australia but don't know when and they are also looking for people around asian region at the moment but don't know how true that is . just keep on sending your updates till they call you up and i guess that's what you could do for the moment . and of course you know what's happening at the moment and search the whole forum .. trust me , something will come up !! ;)

[FFRATS]

mig21bis: CX from my experience do have a hours v's age requirement but you are well inside this ratio. eg. I was older and had lower hours for my interviews.

Advice is to sit tight and update 3-4 months. Not to much nepotisim goes on in CX so its up to Tony P, monica and the scanning process to select you. Even though they maybe a little distracted at the moment they are still on the ball game for expansion.

Study high jet performance, sweptwing etc. for tech. quiz. (30 questions) CX interview book a must. Gives questions asked not to common to ATPL subjects. eg. which brakes get hotter on 744 main gear.

With referance to a330 and his advice. Don't listen to this wanabe is what "I would like to suggest to you" a330. I have been viewing this web site, for a lot longer than my rego. reflects, and have seen many post's like yours from a330. Now time has moved on and a330 is the expert.

Smallwing & JJflyer comments regarding a330 I also agree with.

Quote smallwing?"If you don't like the question don't answer". Very simple advice a330 has missed when reading a forum question.

a330 replys migs post with a "seek more info" before you post. Is info not what mig was seeking in the first place. Archives may give some facts but not as current as some people in the know wish to post. Besides it's not your call which way mig posts a question and with what prior knowledge.

I think over time a330 has matured from questions like yours, (quite reasonable) to having a duty to answer or post on fragrant harbour with the wealth of knowledge gained behined his pc. eg any search on this forum and current posts shows this.

Good luck mig. with other info gathering and lets hope CX turns out to be an airline we all aspire to work for in the future and you're there to share it.

Regards.
;)

[kunal123]

FFRATS
Thank you for all the info.How long does it normally take for them to reply to the resume?????

[zxamx]

Dear Mig21bis,

I would like to share some information with you about CX. This information was obtained from the CX flight recruitment department on Jul 24, 2001.

Currently, there are approximately 20,000 qualified applicants from all over the world waiting to be interviewed and apparently CX can only take about 120 pilots a year. This info is not to discourage you but to let you know that you have to be the best in order to join CX. Therefore, you must prepare yourself from now and make sure you are fully prepared whenever they call you up for the interview.

Basic requirements:
1. ICAO recognised ATPL.
2. 1000 hours on one of the followings:
a. Multi-engine airlines jet.
b. Multi-engine turboprop > 20,000 kg
c. Multi engine corporate jet
d. High performance military jet
e. Military instructional hours
on fixed wing

The interview process will be held in 2 phases. Phase 1 will be held in Europe, USA, Canada, HK, Australia or could be anywhere, depending on the number of applicants from that region. Phase 1 consists of Technical Quiz (30 questions) and 45-60 minutes of an oral interview. All expenses to attend the Phase 1 interview will be on you. You will get the result by phone about a week after your interview if you made it, or a thank you letter if you failed. If there is no news from them, you are encouraged to call them and find out the result.

Phase 2 will be held in HK itself. You and your wife (if married) will be given the air tickets by CX and reasonable amount of pocket money will be given upon check in at the Headland hotel in CX city. Phase 2 consists of Medical check up, simulator assessment ride on B747-200, Personality test (187 questions and MUST be completed within 30 mins), briefings by few officers from CX pertaining to your employment, cocktail party etc and of course the oral interview by a panel of 2 (min) officers from recruitment department. You will be there for 3 nites before you are flying home. You will get the answer about a week after the interview through a phone call by them or a thank you letter again.

How to get yourself ready for the interview?

You MUST have the following books:
1. Handling The Big Jets by D.P. Davies - CAA UK.
2. Guide to CX interview.
3. ATPL notes (Performance A, Meteor, Radio Aids and Instruments)
4. AP3456A or any aerodynamics (Principle of Flight) book. The book must have the basic aerodynamics as well as high speed aerodynamics.
5. Some knowledge about B747-400, especially the design, basic dimension, fuel tanks, winglets etc. The more the better !!!
6. Website about CX, history and current affairs. (MUST KNOW !!!!)

You will find that it is not an easy job to get into CX as they only take the best among the best. However, nothing is impossible in this world. I was informed that the success rate is approximately 10% from the total number of applicants who attended the first interview.

If you met the criteria as mentioned above, just prepare yourself from now and give them a call once a month to find out about your application. Keep updating your CV once every 6 month.

Once you have prepared yourself, with a little bit of luck, you should be able to get yourself into CX.

I hope this information will assist you in pursuing you dream as an airline pilot. I wish you all the best.

:cool:

[mig21bis]

Thanks for the info.

[kunal123]

Mr Hush Kitted.
The info you gave,is that for FO or SO?
pls let us know..

[Kaptin M]

LOL at HushKitted's:

there are approximately 20,000 qualified applicants from all over the world.......Basic requirements:

1. ICAO recognised ATPL.
2. 1000 hours on one of the followings:
a. Multi-engine airlines jet.
b. Multi-engine turboprop > 20,000 kg
c. Multi engine corporate jet
d. High performance military jet
e. Military instructional hours
on fixed wing

Bring on the clowns!!

[jtr]

Jesus hush kit, what the hell have you been smoking?

[IB6-UB9]

a 330 I say again,,,, 1200h and a date for ur interview. First get an ATP then trow away ur BIC penn and get a LIFE big BOY! U cant copy and paste freehand.

Me think u are trying to clock up ur postings. Beware that CX Management is monitoring urs and our postings.
Just a tought

[a330]

as i said .. if you don't like it then don't reply since you know that it's being monitored and why do you have to write so much !! can't you see my details that i have an ATP ?? .. u suck a little dude ... don't say the things that you don't know !! why are you soooooo cautious about the monitoring ? :confused: must be something huh ... whatever ... i just post what i wanna post .

[JJflyer]

DUH :mad:

[IOS97]

Migs you might have the hours of flying experience but you'll crash and burn during the interview unless you vastly improve your English.

[kunal123]

Will some one pls give the right info?
It will be of great help. :rolleyes:

[mig21bis]

Maybe yes or maybe no but you will never know it IOS97.

[zxamx]

According to CX management, those requirements are for both S/O and Direct Entry F/O.

[zxamx]

Dear Kaptin M,

I just relayed the informations that I got from the CX Recruiting Dept. How accurate are the infos, unfortunately I can't verify them. If you think that you know everything, please share with us..............

Thanks

[mig21bis]

Future CX pilots:
The requirements I can remember published in the web site and in a couple of magazines where:

Second Officers for pax fleet:
1. ICAO Commercial or frozen ATPL
2. 1000 hours Total Time minimum
3. Multi-engine Rate( I cant remember if there was a 100 minimum multi-engine time as a requirement)
4. Experience comensurate with age
5. Turbo or jet exp. a plus or something like that

Direct Entry First Officers for B747 Cargo Fleet(My ideal job):
Basic requirements:
1. ICAO recognised ATPL.
2. 1000 hours on one of the followings:
a. Multi-engine airlines jet.
b. Multi-engine turboprop > 20,000 kg
c. Multi engine corporate jet
d. High performance military jet
e. Military instructional hours
on fixed wing

[studentPilot]

hi , newbie here , i went to cx website but they don't publish anymore about recruitment for s/o anymore . and i think (maybe) they change their requirements and are they still hiring for s/o's ? any info will be greatly appreciated .

[IOS97]

Mig29bis, one thing I do know is that CX is still considerably British and when it comes down to selection time who do you think that a British CX Recruiting Officer is going to select...a Brit(or Commonwealth) or an Argentinian? Remember Les Malvinas skirmish? Don't take it the wrong way but when it comes right down to it the Falkland's War will be a crucial factor in your rejection from CX...unless of course a Hong Kong recruiter conducts the interview. Deny it if you like but that is reality.

[mig21bis]

Perhaps you are right. I am aware that most of them are Brits. What you are saying it may be true but you are also saying that the CX are not very professional when selecting people. But on the other hand I know a couple of Argentinean pilots with an European citizenship flying and working in the Brits Islands so hope is the last thing I must lose. As an example, between Argentina and Chile, two countries with lot of "hate", I don't know other word to express it, there are some Argentineans flying in LAN CHILE, something unimaginable if you know both countries history. Those pilots conducting the recruitment are professionals and I hope they don’t look in my nationality and look in my experience. And If I don't qualify because of my experience, bad luck. Maybe in a couple of years or maybe never. But it is worst if I don't try.

Ps. In case I don’t qualify because I am from Argentina I will try it again in a year if I get the Italian Citizenship.

[smith]

.... and your ex-President married an ex-Miss Chile. :D :D

[zxamx]

What the hell is your problem jtr?

[kunal123]

Second Officers for pax fleet:
1. ICAO Commercial or frozen ATPL

can we pls get back to the topic.

what about FAA CPL or frozen ATPL?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

[a330]

heard that CX accept FAA . ;) and of course with a frozen ATP or ATPL .

[JJflyer]

FAA licenced pilots are accepted. What I have learned is that chances of acceptance are minimal if just barely meet their requirments as there are candidates that not only meet those requirments but exceed them as well.

There is no such thing with FAA as " Frozen ATP or ATPL. You either have your ATP or you don't.
With FAA, ATP written is a multiple choise computerised test and does not include any ground schools... Unless you enroll on a prepcourse.
When you take your ATP flight check, you submit your written exam results with the paper work your examiner sends to FAA.