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smallwing
26th September 2001, 20:00
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Delta to cut 13,000 jobs

No. 3 U.S. airline to cut 15% of flight schedule, hurting Florida market

September 26, 2001: 10:49 a.m. ET


NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Delta Air Lines, the nation's third largest airline, announced plans Wednesday to cut about 13,000 employees, or just over 15 percent of its staff.

The airline will also cut its flight schedule by 15 percent, including a 50 percent drop in its Delta Express operations that primarily serves the Florida vacation market.

Delta, which has less union representation than most of its competitors, said it is offering employees six different voluntary separation programs, including early retirement, voluntary leaves of one to five year durations, and a voluntary severance package. The airline said it hoped that the voluntary programs will be able to handle most of the projected job reductions, and that involuntary layoffs will include an industry-leading severance package as well.

The move means that all of the nation's six largest carriers have cut staff by at least 15 percent each since Sept. 11 terrorist attacks resulted in a steep drop in demand for air travel.

Shares of Delta (DAL: up $0.42 to $24.94, Research, Estimates) were slightly higher in morning trading Wednesday ahead of the official announcement.

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God Help Us All. I suggest AOA members start to rethink their own strategies. Good Luck

jtr
27th September 2001, 05:52
Dear smallwing, thank you for demonstrating your cut and paste skills. I seem to find your comments on this part of the forum of no benifit. Some might say that everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I do agree with this, hence the reason I am posting right now. You do not appear to have knowledge of the situation at CX, other than what you read in SCMP, this site, and similar sources. Please bear in mind that this particular part of the Professional Pilots Rumour Network deals specifically with Hong Kong aviation issues. If your only connection to said issues is your place of abode, and paxing on CX, then I ask that you refrain from posting your uneducated musings.

Yours in repsect, The Ripper :)

smallwing
27th September 2001, 09:03
JTR,

Thank you for your kind reply, I must agree my cut and paste skills are getting better everyday.

Where I get my information, I am sure it is not necessary for you to know, but I assure you it is not as off as you think.

Were CX not a world class airline, I am sure this little stint on September 11th, and all airlines being affected otherwise, will not affect CX at all.

By every own person's standing, I have friends and family in the AOA union, and I worry about their jobs more than whether the AOA wins this war. If you look at the issue worldwide, you must know better than I that AOA is on the weaker side.

My PERSONAL opinion is for CX drivers to take care of themselves as this situation can collapse on anyone. I do not refer to any party or any other strategies.

As far as limited industrial action, in this time of crisis, it has proven uneffective. I would not like to see anyone anywhere lose their jobs but "que sara sara (whatever will be will be)".

So JTR, if you work for CX, you have my deepest concerns for your well being, and surely I hope you and your buds win this war. But before your commander tell you to jump into that dark hole, I hope you ask how deep it is.

Good Luck to all CX employees, as rumored that rough times are to come. Cheers.

jtr
27th September 2001, 09:58
smallwing, please bear in mind I am not suggesting that you have no right to an opinion. What I am trying to bring to your attention is that mindless C+P'ing of world situations which we are all blatantly aware of come across as nothing other that sensationalism. You obviously believe you have something to contribute, so do so, but please don't bore us with 2nd hand news.

Nasty Nasty
27th September 2001, 10:09
JTR you are about as informed and lemming like as the rest of the sorry faces on page 7 of todays SCMP. Yes your heads should be bowed in shame at the way your collective arrogance is exhibited. Only one minutes silence. Most of the world honoured the dead with two or three minutes silence but oh no CX Drivers (Airframe)!

The AOA shows no strategy no direction and never did even before 11 Sept. They and the AOA were doomed before the tragic events in the US. You just dont read the signs do you.
Now you dont know your way out. ... that's why yellow is the colour of your kind.

Shame on you ALL.

smallwing
27th September 2001, 10:58
JTR, thank you on reiterating my post.

I will try in the future not to put any SECOND HAND news. This post at hand is something to talk about; top US airlines cutting back, will that happen here in HK?

I have been a very neutral third party in this dispute and in the past have even mailed SCMP on what they use from these BBS. Mind you CX pilots are not getting very good media (especially what is on the news today).

I still hope, from this thread, that people will start to bring up the fact that this is happening in a world scale, so what will HK airlines do?

Feel free to post more NEWS on this thread as I feel you are more informed than I. I am sure the world would like to know.

Thanks and best wishes. Smallwing :D

jtr
27th September 2001, 12:44
smallwing, I admire your acceptance of anothers opinion. This post did have the elements of one that resorts to mud-slinging, however, thankfully, this has not occured.
As I am sure you are aware the factors affecting the operation, and profitability of CX are very unique, ranging from an extremely high profit margin, to an extremely expensive operating base, and everything in between. This places a different slant on the current global situation, though CX will undoubtedly use it to their best advantage.

I suggest that the AOA members have done a serious amount of thinking with regard to the current situation, however thank you for the suggestion closing your initial post. :)

Nasty.. Sorry tiger, I just can't be bothered wasting my energy. :rolleyes:

[ 27 September 2001: Message edited by: jtr ]

pontius's pa
27th September 2001, 19:11
It is beginning to look as though losing your job with CX might not be quite so bad as losing a job with some of the US majors, whose terms and conditions AOA members seemed so keen to gain for themselves.

According to the news on TV, some US majors are invoking an "emergency clause" which means that staff, including pilots, are being sacked with no payment in lieu of notice. At least CX are, or were, giving three months pay or whatever the contract guarantees.

But it's OK, AOA members, your spokesman, (President? I am not sure of JF's official title), is on your side. He was wonderful on the news yesterday.

CX are cutting back on routes, so the "pilot shortage" will ease.

According to JF on the RTHK news yesterday, the AOA are continuing their action because the AOA can help CX by showing them rostering practices that will achieve 700 hrs per pilot rather than the 500 something hours presently achieved. More hours per pilot means less pilots, so CX will need fewer pilots than they have at present so can dump a few more by following the advice of, and with the blessing of, the AOA.

TT why aren't you at the table yet??

I must confess I find the attitude of the AOA rather quaint in the circumstances.

But I take no pleasure in the dispute between a union that seems to live on another planet and a management that seems to have lost any sense of preserving what was in many ways a relationship between management and staff that was second to none.

But it doesn't matter anyway, because AOA members don't read this site any more, do they?

Is it not time to move on?