26 New Start ups this year!

[Sheep Guts]

Hi,
I was reading the "The Australian" 2 weeks ago and noticed that it was expected that 26 new carriers would start up in all of ASIA this year. Does anyone have the names and locations of these proposed carriers?

Regards
Sheep

[flyingcrazy]

I only know 2 of them:

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines
2.Air India Express
3. .....
4. .....

anybody would like to add?

:ok:
FC

[kwaiyai]

Expected and actual are two different thing's.

[Sheep Guts]

If anyone else has any more to add to the list dont hesitate.
I just found out about an Airline Startup in Macau.

WOW MACAU being the new company name.


Any other newies out there?

Sheep

[rodondo4]

Asmara Air, Malaysia

[Sheep Guts]

Well ok we have so far :

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines
2.Air India Express
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia


22 others to come up with. Maybe Steve Creedy the Australian journalist that suggested there would be 26 new start ups can help us with the rest.

Sheep

[ZSSSZSPD]

As far as I know there are three in mainland china. Don't know it's exact English title. One based in Tianjing, One in Shanghai , one in Chengdu.

:ok: my first post in this forum. cheers

[Sheep Guts]

Thnaks rodondo and ZSSSZSPD

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines
2.Air India Express
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing
6.Tianjing AREA
7.Shanghai AREA
8.Chengdu AREA


SO THIS WHAT WE HAVE TO DATE! Any more please add to the list .


Sheep

[SmoothCriminal]

9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com)
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com)
11. Indus Airways
12. Go Airways
13. Air One
14. Yamuna Airways

(All above have been registered and announced as a startup in India) Kingfisher with A320's and Spicejet with 73-NG's

Gaud knows how many may survive and see the first take-off

Another 12 more to figure out aey' !!

My 2 cents worth

Smoothie :ok: :ok:

[Sheep Guts]

Thanks Smoothie,
Have one more to add OZJET in Australia to start in the latter half of this year in Adelaide.

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines
2.Air India Express
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing
6.Tianjing AREA
7.Shanghai AREA
8.Chengdu AREA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia


So another eleven now. Any takers on who else is starting up this year. Thanks in advance

Regards
Sheep

[Kaptin M]

There's a new 737 operator starting up out of Fukuoka, Japan, later this year - an ANA subsidiary...forget the name. sorry - but initially only 2 or 3 aircraft.

[Sheep Guts]

Thanks Kaptain M,


1.Oasis HongKong Airlines
2.Air India Express
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing
6.Tianjing AREA
7.Shanghai AREA
8.Chengdu AREA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia
16. Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator


Thanks for all the replies sofar keep them coming!

Sheep:ok:

[FEArookie]

Guys

HK Express, in Hk

[speedtwoten]

can anybody please tell how is living condition in New Delhi, and also the airport's in India, it is always better to know something before appliying:ok:

[SmoothCriminal]

Hi Speed......

Living in India....I presume you haven't lived there before !

Would be a great experience for ya. Ofcourse there's up's and down's to it. Delhi is populated as you wouldn't believe...anyother major bases like Madras (Chennai I must say), Bombay (Mumbai aey'), Calcutta (not much of a base) are all the same for that matter.

But one shall have a great lifestyle if worked out the way and hooked up with the right colleagues. Expense way, can live great for a cheaper cost comparitive to the Western countries.

Most people are great, very polite and no shortage of hospitality. Then again, any country is bound to have that little percentage of moron's.

On the other hand.....guess you are aware that
- All Indian registered aircraft shall be operated by crew with DGCA papers
- No hope in hell for a non-national to get a co-pilot job in of these op's
- Oppurtunity for Non-national Cap's and C&T's wide open with a year contract renewable (around there anyway's), but no perm employment unfortunately (yet !)

If you've figured out the right life style and happy to spend a dollar or two (must say rupee or two) one shall love life. High life style chicks are great, rather very pretty as well I must admit. Yummo' food. Will be hard to get Vindaloo for it's actually a UK invention (that's what I heard anyways)

The way it's going, towards the end of this year there's gonna be serious shortage of crew, and delays in getting things going on time for this sole reason alone notwithstanding other matters.
That's ofcourse all these so called LCC start-up's do spool up !!

Ah, by the way that ozjet website..... www.ozjet.com.au (60 seat - all business class - 737-clapped out 200's) Headturner paint job though !

My two cents,,, rather two rupee worth

Smoothie

:ok: :ok:

[ltjng]

Let's update the list,

Tianjin Area = Okay Airways
Shanghai Area = Spring Air
Chengdu Area = United Eagle Airlines

[Sheep Guts]

oK heres the revised list thanks guys

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK
2.Air India Express, INDIA
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia
16. Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator
17. HongKong Express , HK

Thanks everyone, looks impressive only 9 more to come up with


any takers?

Sheep
:O

[SmoothCriminal]

18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore)

A recent advert looking for crew to operate a fleet of ultra - modern jet aircraft !! whatever they are supposed to be !!

Smoothie :ok:

[Kaptin M]

No 16's name is Air Next, Sheepie.

(Why is it that F/O's and F/A's ALWAYS know this stuff first???)

[flycold]

Guys

19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.

[Sheep Guts]

Thanks Kaptin M,

Looks like I should scan the F/As forum I suppose.:D

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK A330&A340?
2.Air India Express, INDIA
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia 737-200
16. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator
17. HongKong Express , HK EMB 190
18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore)
19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.



thanks to Flycold, Smooth Criminal aswell. Keepem coming. If you know what Aircraft Type theyll be operating that would be handy info aswell.

Regards
Sheep:}


P.S. 7 to go or there may even be more.

[Chocks Away]

Hong Kong Heli moving into "170 jets" for regional china services.

Air Macau big expansion.

Covered most the others i knew, apart from aggressive expansion of existing operators.
:ok:

P.S just saw you covered it with HKexpress. Doh

[FE Hoppy]

Paramount are going brasilian.

[PK-KAR]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK A330&A340?
2.Air India Express, INDIA
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia 737-200
16. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator
17. HongKong Express , HK EMB 190
18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore)
19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
20. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. 733/310/M80
21. Top Air, 732/722/M80
22. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
23. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.

PK-KAR

[Sheep Guts]

Thanks PK awesome. FE does Paramount have a Portuguese connection? Why Brazil, If there based in India?

Keep em coming 3 to go or if any. Anyone know which of these mobs will operate the Airbus except Oasis?


Take care
Sheep

:} :O :( :rolleyes:

[PK-KAR]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK A330&A340?
2.Air India Express, INDIA
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia 737-200
16. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator
17. HongKong Express , HK EMB 190
18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore)
19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
----------
20. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. 733/A310 <---- Note revision
21. Top Air, 732/722/M80
22. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
23. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
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Would "Effatha Papua Air" be counted as #24? Coz they flew once, then closed... and now going again... I heard they're going to start again this year with MD80s...

24. Effatha Papua Air ????

----
Sheep, #20 = Airbus too :D

PK-KAR

[FE Hoppy]

Not going to Brazil!! but buying Brazilian aircraft.

[flycold]

I just had quick surfing (focus on F/Os.)
If my searches are incorrect, please fix them up.
Also need share more infomations. :ok:

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK A330&A340?
---> N/A

2.Air India Express, INDIA
---> http://www.airindiaexp.com/ is this a new airline ???
recruiting b737NG capt/fo s , walked in interview

3. WOW MACAU
---> don't know contact number. please give some info

4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
---> don't know contact number. please give some info

5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
---> experienced foreign crew only.
sub-leased b737NG from KE.

7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
---> don't know contact number. please give some info

9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
---> hiring web address
http://www.spicejet.com/royalairlines/spicejet/career.aspx?groupname=FlightOperations
---> needs indian license (is this flexible? what about fATPL?)

10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
---> recruiting online.
---> have more infomation?

11. Indus Airways, India
---> http://www.geocities.com/yazdans_group/yia.html
(is this an official???)
---> A340, A320, B747-2F

12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
---> don't know contact number. please give some info

15. Ozjet, Australia 737-200
---> www.ozjet.com.au

16. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator
---> via agency, no expat??

17. HongKong Express , HK EMB 190
---> http://www.helihongkong.com/hkexpress/recruitment/

18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore)
---> don't know contact number. please give some info

19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
---> preparing launch

20. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. 733/A310 <---- Note revision
21. Top Air, 732/722/M80
22. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
23. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
24. Effatha Papua Air
---> don't know contact number. please give some info

need add-ons.....

[flyingcrazy]

Sheepie,

#10.Kingfisher, will operate Airbus as well (A320 family)

:ok:
FC

[Capt Snooze]

#25: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China


and see this link for China (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/11/content_423787.htm)



Snooze

[ENVAR]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK A330&A340?
2.Air India Express, INDIA
3. WOW MACAU
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia 737-200
16. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan 737 operator
17. HongKong Express , HK EMB 190
18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore)
19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
----------
20. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. 733/A310 <---- Note revision
21. Top Air, 732/722/M80
22. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
23. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
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24. Effatha Papua Air
25: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China

Got to add 2 more to the list.

26. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
27. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR

[Sheep Guts]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar A330&A340?
2.Air India Express, INDIA
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Beijing CHINA (one of these 2 could be double)
6.Okay Airways, Tianjing CHINA
7.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA
8.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
9. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
10. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com), India A320
11. Indus Airways, India
12. Go Airways, India
13. Air One, India
14. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
15. Ozjet, Australia B737-200
16. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
17. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
18. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
19. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
20. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
21. Top Air, 732/722/M80
22. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
23. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
24. Effatha Papua Air
25: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
26. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
27. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR


Im just checking our list here possibley a few of these airlines have allready started up Last Year! THnaks for everyones contributions sofar. It a very impressive list will be interesting how many come through with the Bacon at the end.

If anyone wants to amend this list please do, add more airlines and aircraft types are still needed for quite a few.

Anyone know what Okay Airlines in China operate?


Sheep

[flycold]

sheep, B737-900.

here are some infos.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050225h.html

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/17/content_383041.htm

But, I can't find contact number for career... anybody?

:ok:

[AEROVISION]

# 28 then ?

Magic Air, India

For announcement, click link.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1048227.cms


Cheers
A.V.

[Capt Snooze]

Another link (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200502/28/eng20050228_174881.html) on Okay Airlines.

This link (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200501/11/eng20050111_170279.html) is slightly earlier, and refers to Ao'kai airlines of Beijing, which may be a phonetic (pinyin) spelling of Okay, and to Chunqiu Airlines in Shanghai.

This article (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200410/17/eng20041017_160486.html) last year referred to Air Spring in Shanghai. Is this Chunqiu? Any Chinese speakers care to comment?

More confusion or clarification is provided here (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200408/17/eng20040817_153344.html).

A Vanuatu operation with Chinese investors is referred to here (http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200407/05/eng20040705_148476.html), but this is an old news item.



Snooze

[Sheep Guts]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar A330&A340?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?


Ahwell sorry areovision #27 will be Magic Air as there were 2 Okay Airlines in the list.

Thanks everyone. I let it build agai before relaesing an updated list.

Sheep

[Capt Snooze]

Further Chinese information.

At the launch of Okay Airlines yesterday, CAAC vice director Yang Guoqing was quoted in the local press as saying 'The CAAC approved four other private air companies and one joint-venture in 2004'

We may still be missing a couple here?



Snooze

[Capt Snooze]

To possibly put the Okay Airlines Beijing vv Tianjin question to bed.

'and will serve the cities of Tianjin, Kunming, Changsha, Zhangjiajie, Guilin, Hohhot, Taiyuan and Harbin.
The new airlines will be headquartered in Beijing, and will operate its hub from Tianjin's Binhai International Airport. '

Link here (http://www.china-ready.com/news/Mar2005/OkayAirwaysChinasFirstPrivateAirlineToLaunchMarch5_030105.ht m).




Snooze

[SmoothCriminal]

28. Gold Airways, Australia

HighCapacity !! Domestic
flygold.com.au

Current Status : AOC application submitted, could be between 3 months and 3 years !!

Smoothie....:ok: :ok:

[Sheep Guts]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia [url]www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?



Thanks guys

SHEEP
P.S. KEEP EM COMING!:ok: :cool:

[Sheep Guts]

Looks like Oasis are starting with 747-400, they are leasing 3 initially. also looks like WOW Macau is startup involving Virgin and AirMacau, and will be leasing B757 initially. Dam I thought these guys were going the BUS.


SHEEP

Keep the info coming in guys

:p :E :ok: :O

[Capt Snooze]

More on Okay Airlines, Beijing.

Avflash are quoting:

The first private airlines are taking flight in China and they'll need at least 8,000 pilots over the next 10 years. Since there is virtually no GA system to produce those pilots, the airlines must look abroad. "China is short of captains and co-pilots," said Liu Jieyin, chairman of Okay Airways, China's first privately held airline. "We offer young foreign pilots an opportunity to grow." The airline recently hired seven young pilots, including a Canadian and two Swiss as well as four from Hong Kong, and Liu said there are plans to hire more as the fledgling airline's fleet of six leased 737s starts competing for business with the three state-owned airlines. First officers will earn about $2,500 a month.




Snooze

[Sheep Guts]

$2500 a month:rolleyes: :confused: :yuk: :{ :uhoh: :( :sad:


keep the info coming thanks Snooze

Sheep

P.S. If they offer that kind of dosh they will soon learn what to offer.

[Sheep Guts]

I used to fly a KingAir for $4000.00usd/month. I suppose its all relative, I dont think they will get many qualified guys for that salary, unless they are guys who want time on type and then leave after a year or 6 months.

Maybe now is the time that Chinese Pilots go fo higher wages. Chinas economy is still growing and its wage scale is no doubt being left behind in this dynamic market place.

Sheep

[Chocks Away]

Some "late mail" ex New Straits Times, Tues March 22nd:

(Not a new start as such domestically, but is launching International ops)

Sriwijaya Air : Indonesian carrier is still in discussions with authorities over routes into Malaysia (KL & Penang).
Sriwijaya Air's district manager Heru Tony Hardjanto confirmed interest was in the Medan/KL and Medan/Penang routes and is hoping to start international ops within 6 months.

Currently serving 10 destinations domestically throughout Indonesia, with 12 full-service B737-200s, Malaysia will be the airline's maiden international destination.


Nok Air (already established) also planning expansion into KL next month, as are Jet Airways (India) and Air Sahara (India) latter this year. Shenzhen Airlines already flying to KL from early this year.

PS AirAsia starting Manilla flights (Clark Angeles Airport) April 5th.

[Capt Snooze]

Some more detail about Indian startups here (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/03/22/bt.india.spicejet.rail.reut/index.html).




Snooze

[SmoothCriminal]

Heard from unconfirmed sources that the Indian Operators are now "allowed to take pilots with foreign licences" including FO's ! with working rights.

Know for a fact that they are recruiting Captains and C&T's on a contract basis.

Any comments ?! much appreciated in advance.

Smoothie :ok: :ok:

[ucfthug4u]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Jet Star Asia, Operating from Singapore(nov.2005) 8 x A320. Adding 20 planes by 06-07.

Intersting article regarding Singapore Airlines ordering more planes.

check it out.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002216418_boeing23.html


Keep updating this post! Great Info. Thanks everyone.

[Sheep Guts]

ucfthug4u,
Hate to say this, but Jetstar Asia has been operating since mid 2004 hence it is not part of this list "26 New Start Ups this year" being 2005. Thanks for your contribution though. If any of the above airlines have started last year they cant be put on the list. Im am not sure on the Indian ones.

Sheep
P.s. keep bringing them in 2005 debut airlines only guys!

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)


Regards
SHEEP

[SmoothCriminal]

Another one;

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India

Hmmmm.... 10 of the above are in India !!

Smoothie....:ok:

[Dart18]

As far as I know, no.8 on the "list" is called UNITED EAGLE, based in Chengdu area, China ( www.ueair.com )

[Sheep Guts]

Back to the top. To see if anyone has more info.

Thanks again to everyone involved


Sheep

[asiancanucks]

Okay is finaly OK Air internet
www.okair.net

nice picture here!

http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?airline=OKAIR

cheers

[Boeing737jock]

Anyone got OK Airways

e-mail or adress?

[Giant88]

May remove Asmara Air frm the list. DCA Malaysia did not approved their AOL. Supposed to start with 3 F50s...

[Capt Snooze]

A bit more info on a couple of the starters............

Low-cost for the long-haul

By Charles Anderson

Two veterans of the Hong Kong aviation scene, Steve Miller and Andrew Pyne, are involved in attempts to start long-distance, low-cost airlines.
Miller, an aviation consultant who was the first chief executive of Hong Kong Dragon Airlines when it was founded 20 years ago, has been named as chief executive of Oasis Hong Kong Airlines.
The new carrier will concentrate on long-haul routes from Hong Kong International Airport. Backers are reported to include an American property developer and one of Hong Kong’s top electronics moguls.
The airline, which aims to launch by the year-end using a small fleet of Boeing B747-400s or Airbus A340-300s, is to target tour groups and holiday travellers looking for low-priced flights to Europe. North American cities may be added later.
Pyne, head of international affairs at Cathay Pacific Airways until last year, is a director of Macau Eagle Aviation Services, which plans to launch WOW Macau by early autumn. It is looking to lease Boeing 767s and 757s and is exploring the availability of routes under a possible agreement with Air Macau, which has first call on them as the city’s home carrier. Virgin Blue has also been wooing Air Macau over the 'formation of a joint-venture, low-cost carrier there.
Talks were said to be under way, at the time of writing, with both Macau and Hong Kong over which would become its base. If WOW Macau chooses the latter, its name will be WOW Asia.

from Orient Aviation Magazine (http://www.orientaviation.com/index.html)



Another couple re WOW!Macau................

WOW!Macau (http://www.wowmacau.net/)
(courtesy of Speedbreak, on another thread.)


and


This news item. (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/China/GC25Ad09.html)



Is this another one?

\'CR Airways, has launched its first China scheduled service, to Nanning in Guangxi province, flying twice daily, three times a week. It plans to follow soon with Jinan and Wengzhou and said it will add secondary cities that need point-to-point services for business travellers. Dragonair does not operate to those first three destinations.

CR Airways, owned by Hong Kong business-man Robert Yip, is currently operating two 50-seat Bombardier CRJ200s, which it plans to swap for larger CRJ700s. It runs charter services to Laoag, the Philippines, Siem Reap, Phuket, Langkawi and Danang in Vietnam.\'


Snooze

[Kaptin M]

Star Flyer - an A320 operation kicking off later this year, or early next year, from the new airport in Kitakyushu (northern Kyushu......just north of Fukuoka), initially with 3 aircraft. They are supposedly paying USD14k/month for Captains.
Recruiting through several contract companies.

[flycold]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
+
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72

[PK-KAR]

The list grows and grows...

Looks like I missed one that's already running now...
Lintas Nusantara/Linus... now flying 722/732 and soon 146s... however looks like they're going bust soon too...

FlyCold:
Effatha Papua Air is at:
"Menara Dea, Jl. Mega Kuningan Barat I, Jakarta-Selatan." My fiancee just went there last week. I'll ask for the contact number if they call her up again...

Not much else is known apart from they're going to operate ex BO/5H MD82s.


The way things are at the moment... for Indonesia=
1. Lintas Nusantara/Linus. Already flying last month.
2. Top Air = Still in limbo. Aircraft and crew ready, no news on AOC.
3. Gatari Air Charter, already operating, where and for who no one knows.
4. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, but still no info. Unlikely to start 2005.
5. Efatha Papua Air, currently recruiting, MD82s. Office details above.
6. Cendrawasih Air, Twotter operator, current plans in limbo as finances dried up.
7. ASCO. F50 operations planned, subject to CASR121 type supplement being approved. Looking at September 2005. Timika base.
8. "X" Air, with Singaporean finance, seeking to purchase an Indonesian AOC. A320s reported to be coming in from July, up to 5 for 2005. Recruiting, no airline name, and still looking for AOC to buy. Purchase candidate is Bali Air or Indonesian Airlines.
9. "Y" Air, local finance, seeking to purchase Indonesian AOC. "Base somewhere in Papua". Currently in financing discussion. Target start date August. F50 initial, ATR42 planned. C212 initial, to be replaced with 30 seater. F100 being offered but not decision.
10. Royal Bali Air, no further news. I heard they're having AOC difficulties.

So the list should now be...
1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.

"X" and "Y" not being put to the list yet until further details available.

PK-KAR

[Outlaw]

can anyone give more info bout this asmara air???

when will it start?
any contact?
what type of aircrafts?
base?kl?jb?pg?

thanx guys.

[BlueEagle]

Bits and Pieces here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=1763072&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending) , thanks to the SEARCH function;)

[PK-KAR]

I hear Asmara Air is history... :(

[Sheep Guts]

Thanks for all the replies. Thought I would bring this to the top to see if anyone has any amendments.

Sheep

[PK-KAR]

"Sriwijaya Air : Indonesian carrier is still in discussions with authorities over routes into Malaysia (KL & Penang).
Sriwijaya Air's district manager Heru Tony Hardjanto confirmed interest was in the Medan/KL and Medan/Penang routes and is hoping to start international ops within 6 months.

Currently serving 10 destinations domestically throughout Indonesia, with 12 full-service B737-200s, Malaysia will be the airline's maiden international destination."

Sriwijaya's fleet is still 6 732s last time I checked. But they would have got more recently, but not another 6!

Doing MES-KUL and MES-PEN would be a "significant departure from it's business plan"...

"19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air"

Scrap #19... they seem to have disappeared.
#20 is in limbo... again...
#21 has no clients.
#22 no other news
#23 plan Jun25 commence ops, but gossip has it that it may not be flying after the recent increase in domestic fuel price.

"33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05."

#33 Linus is brain dead but still got a heartbeat. 727/737 ops shut down quickly, awaiting 146 ops SUB-MDC-TTE-SOQ-FKS and back... which in my personal opinion will be an entertaining saga.

#34 is up for sale.
#35 No clients. F50 ops plans may turn out to be a hoax, initially "to be from Australia" but checking there, no one's letting them go.
#36 seems to be running OK.

Add:
37. Lorena Air... now actively recruiting cabin attendants. Personally I think the boss is dreaming but if she has the money, we may see it fly...

No further disclosable info regarding to "X" and "Y"...

PK-KAR

[Capt Snooze]

#25 Virgin Macau would appear to be in some doubt after Virgin Blue's announcement of 'refocusing' it's planning away from Asia. This had been widely predicted as a result of the recent Corrigan partial takeover.

[Sheep Guts]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.


SO any changes to this list anyone?

Sheep

[Capt Snooze]

East Star Airlines, Hubei Province, PRC.

This (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/China/GF18Ad05.html) newspaper article refers.



Snooze

[geriatrix]

Thai Sky Airlines - would seem to have started operations in May 2005, with a Tristar. http://www.thaiskyairlines.com

[Sheep Guts]

Ok guys Ive heard Golden Dragon Airlines are starting up in Macua. Does anyone have an website address?


Regards
Sheep

P.S. Keep the responses coming

[Capt Snooze]

OK,

From this (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/Business/GF25Ae07.html) newspaper article is would appear that Oasis Hong Kong and WOW Macau are still in the process of starting up.


Some random bits and pieces............

Number 8. Spicejet is quoted as \'SPICEJET, a re-invention of a domestic carrier first know as Modiluft and then re-named Royal Airways\'. and to operate from Delhi.

Number 25. Virgin Macau appears to be dead in the water. \' A spokeswoman for Brisbane-based Virgin Blue told media the airline, now majority-owned by Australian transport group, Patrick Corp. “examined the feasibility of a joint venture operation for several months. In the end, we could not reach an agreement”. \'

Number 16. Hong Kong Express and Number 26. Golden Dragon would appear to be associated entities. \'Golden Dragon Airlines is believed to be associated with Macau’s legendary casino king, Stanley Ho, through his helicopter company, East Asia Airlines. Hong Kong Express – formerly Helicopters Hong Kong, another new airline set to commence flying from Hong Kong to several Mainland cities – is expected to manage Golden Dragon.\' \'Golden Dragon\'s approved destinations also largely avoid competition with Hong Kong Express, a Hong Kong-based budget airline also controlled by Ho, which has been granted rights to fly to Guangzhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Chongqing and Ningbo.
``Both companies will not complete with each other,\'\' said Hong Kong Express chief executive Andrew Tse.
It will lease two 75-seat Embraer aircraft this year and plans to schedule flights next year, said the source. ``Golden Dragon will act as a regional airline in the future, not a low-cost carrier,\'\' he said.\'

This may be a new one. (To replace the Virgin proposal?) \'Air Macau along with two partners plans to start a budget airline at the end of the year in which it will invest US$30 million (HK$234 million) for a 51 percent stake. The new carrier will fly 22 mainland and regional routes with four aircraft to be delivered next year.\'

Plus this one. 'Another new airline already off the ground and bringing more jobs to the market is CR Airways. But it is not a budget carrier.
Having started out as a helicopter charter outfit, it now flies two 50-seater jets to China's secondary cities, such as Jinan and Nanning, holiday packages to Laoag and Clark in the Philippines, and charters to Phuket, Langkawi, Danang and Siem Reap. The carrier prefers the label "low operating cost" carrier offering "value for money" fares to destinations that would otherwise require passengers to catch two flights through major hubs.
A spokeswoman for the company said: "We are following the model of West Jet and East Jet in Canada. It's a direct point-to-point service to cities in China."
Running at a healthy 80 per cent capacity, CR Airways is already looking to expand, acquiring 70-seater aircraft to cope with demand and extending its network to mainland cities including Zhejiang, Changsha, Chongqing, Guilin, Haikou, Hangzhou, Kunming, Nanjing, Sanya, Tianjin and Wuhan. '


Snooze

[Capt Snooze]

Update time.

5. Okay
6. Spring
and
7. United Eagle
are now all operating.

Three more startups reported in China.
Aukai Airlines, Western Airlines and Eastern Express. No details known.

CR out of Hong Kong yesterday announced new routes to cities in Hainan, presumably implying expansion.

Saw reference to a Thai budget carrier 'One-Two-GO'. Nothing more known about this one.

Plus, of course, Valueair and Jetstar Asia out of Singapore have 'merged'.



Snooze

[Capt Snooze]

Re: Number 16..............

'August 3, 2005

Hong Kong Express, the territory's most recent start-up carrier, has agreed landing rights to five Chinese second-tier cities and hopes to secure more destinations, a company official said on Wednesday.

The carrier, which does not fly anywhere at present, is expected to fly passengers to the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou starting mid-September, with subsequent services to Hangzhou, Nanjing, Chongqing and Ningbo throughout the latter months of 2005 and early 2006.

In the future, the new start-up will also consider seeking landing rights to other secondary cities in China, including Haikou, Sanya, Shantou and Zhengzhou, said Andrew Tse, chief executive officer of Hong Kong Express.

While the airline's expansion plans are centered on China, it also hopes to secure landing rights to Ko Samui in Thailand, Tse said.

"Hong Kong is very weak in terms of connecting to the mainland," said Tse. "We have the opportunity here of launching increased domestic flight services from Hong Kong to the mainland."

Tse is a primary shareholder in privately-owned Hong Kong Express along with tycoon Stanley Ho.

The carrier, which will operate a total of four 76 seat Embraer planes by 2006, is expected to buy two aircraft each year and cover 12-15 cities in China in the next five years. Each Embraer comes with a price tag of about USD$20 million.

(Reuters)'

[Sheep Guts]

Okay Guys here this a reviewed list. I have also, where applicable, put the website link, and Aircraft type operated or planned to operate.
I once again want to thank all the contributors. Especially Capt Snooze for contribution and PM reminder.

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express,www.airindiaexpress.in INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU www.wowmacau.net Macau SAR B757/ A320?
4. Western Airlines China
5.Okay Airlines, www.okayairlines.com Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, www.air-spring.com A320,A319 Shanghai CHINA
7.United Eagle Airlines, www.ueair.com A320Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet www.spicejet.com, India B737-800 (20 to become Royal Airways
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, www.ozjet.com.au Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, www.ana.com.jp Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express, www.hongkongexpress.com HK EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways,www.paramountairways.com India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air www.jejuair.net , in South Korea. Dash8-Q400
19. Eastern Express China
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Aukai Airlines China
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au A320
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.
37. East Star Airlines, Hubei Province, PRC
38. Cr Airways HongKong www.crairways.com CRJ700
39. Thai Sly Airlines Bangkok Thailand www.thaiskyairlines.com L1011 Tristar
40."One 2 Go" Airlines Thailand ?






The following is a list of deletions as they appear to be no longer in the game or never came to fruition. So I have substituted
4.Asmara Air Deleted Western Airlines China substituted
25. Virgin Macua now Aukai Airlines never eventuated Virgin Blue Cold feet
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310 finished? substituted with Eastern Express China

I have tried to amend with all the details supplied, I appologise for errors will try and keep up to date more aften now. I think the important thing being the contact details, and website for each airline. If they get off the ground.:)

Sheep Thanks again guys

P.s WOW Macua is now Macau Eagle

[SmoothCriminal]

40. "One 2 Go" = Isn't that the moto or theme or whatever you wanna call it for "Orient Thai Airlines".

Smoothie....:ok:

[Sheep Guts]

back to the top

Sheep

[rsoman]

Surprising that the "biggest" of the proposed start ups havent yet made top the list.

Delhi based INDIGO (different from both Indus and Go who are different) had made som e news with a "100" A320 order at Paris this year. Unlike many other airlines whose promoters range from vanilla farmers to textile barons not to speak of the beer industry, these guys have some pedigree- Indian partner is Interglobe, for long established in the travel trade in India, also has Rakesh Gangwal of US Airways/World span fame and they just announced the appointment of another US airways top man as the head.

Rumoured to start end of this year or early next year.

Also heard "East West" wich was one of the casualities of the first indian boom on the 1990s are now trying to start again - ofcourse there is a question of some "unpaid money" to the Indian airport authorities as well as the fel suppliers, which they are reportedly trying to clear.

"Visa Airways" - Dont tell me these guys are still trying to float/ Rumours for quite a few years now - at one pointt they even had their schedules loaded in OAG.

[Capt Snooze]

rsoman

Thanks for your input. The list is only what ppruners like you have contributed so far. This is a knowledge gathering process for all of us, in an attempt to help others.

With your knowledge of the Indian scene, could you help with an update on the Indian entries on the list? Some may be ‘dead in the water’. All could do with more detail. Any and all input is appreciated.

So far for India, we have –

2. Air India Express,www.airindiaexpress.in INDIA(18XB737-800)
8. Spicejet www.spicejet.com, India B737-800 (20 to become Royal Airways)
9. Kingfisher (www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
17. Paramount Airways,www.paramountairways.com India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737 ( 10)?
30. Visa Airways, India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India

and now

41. INDIGO, India (100 A320’s)
42. East West ?? India

Thanks,


Snooze

[Hairy Chest]

13 new airlines ? hmmmm approx 40 new airplanes.

WHERE ARE PILOTS !

Does India has firm plans to solve the shortage issue, I'm gussing expats may here for a bit longer than 1 yr.

Rsoman / Left Wing,

Since you guys are the local experts:O

Do Indian kids want to be pilots as a career, or is it like rest of Asia want a easy desk job and make money ?

Is there a true passion for aviation or lure of big money? I can see the pay sclaes went up for local FOs.

Just want to learn more about the nation of 1 Bil no wise cracks pls.:ok:

[rsoman]

Air India Express - Air India's low cost wing using B737NGs (3 currently). Targetting price sensitive travellers in the India Middle East and India -SIN/KUL markets both of which are huge . Currently operating only to MCT,AUH and DXB from basically the Kerala airports (TRV/COK and CCJ) and a few flights from BOM and DEL as well. Things will get warm once Air Arabia starts operating to Kerala soon. Next phase of expansion will be from MAA/TRZ to SIN and KUL where there is another distinct price sensitive segment existing.

Spice Jet- Indian LCC operating domestic routes. Currently operating three leased 737 NGs from its base in DEL. Origins from former "Modiluft" which went bust in the mid 1990s. Top management has some ex Can Jet people. Operates mainly business routes such as DEL AMD or AMD BOM. Although an LCC, has avoided the pitfalls of competing for "popularity stakes" with other LCCs by offering unsustainable fares.


Kingfisher - Promoted by a industrialist with deep pockets. Has professional management running the airline, a mix of expats and Indian professionals. Uses A320s (currently 3) but operates only 3 routes - BLR - BOM. BLR- DEL and just starting BOM-DEL. Not positioned as an LCC, however in many cases their fares are as comppetitive as their LCC competitors. Pulled off a major coup, taking its competitors by surprise when it got into a maintenance agreement with public sector Indian Airlines (a big A320 operator) for its aircraft. Has ordered A330s as well and announced plans to float a US based company to operate services from US to India making use of the open skies agreement between US and India . Current Indian rules require domestic airlines to wait for five years before starting International services.

Of the rest, Paramount and Air One are both based in the south, in CJB and BLR respectively. Both plan to operate thinner, underserved routes , the former on a all business configuration. Runs the risk of being swamped under by the biggies like Jet and Indian Airlines who may dump capacity on their proposed routes and slash fares to boot!

Go- promoted by a big Indian business group in BOM. Talking for a long time - even has an ex Sky Europe person as the top guy but plans does not seem to have crystallised much....

The dark horse is IndiGo- Unlike most others who are only too ready to talk big, these guys are keeping a low profile. But as mentioned, good business background, the promoters understand the travel business inside out and the Indian promoter - "Interglobe" holds the General Sales Agency for a number of airlines like Delta, Virgin and United for many many years in addition to being the NMC for Galileo in India.

Regarding aviation as a career - the answer is YES. Till now it was a difficult scenario. After the first boom went BUST in the mid 1990s, for many years, the market has remained stagnant. Now things have turned on their head. The economy is steadily growing, and the LCCs have brought the fares down. India has a middle class which is steadily growing with increasing disposable incomes. Distances remain huge and surface alternatives (Train/Driving) are not practical in most cases. For instance between Bangalore and Hyderabad in the south, a distance of 350 miles, while the flight takes one hour, the quickest train takes 10 hours and drivng takes almost the same time.

There are quite a few Indians now abroad in US or Australia mainly, studying for their licences and once DGCA relaxes some of its non sensical rules for conversion (as it is bound to sooner than latter), then you will have more people taking up flying.
As for Indian flight schools - well- where do you get the instructors???

To conclude yes the way things are growing, I think the expats will be here for much longer than one year.

[Left Wing]

rsoman, thks for the hard work ! :ok: Saves me time for more beer !

[rsoman]

Hey Left Wing
Any idea whether Kingfisher is serving their brew on board? Or is booze still off limits after that old Damania cock up?

[Left Wing]

Mr. VM is trying hard, the "flying models" & beer dont mix too well.
:}

[Sheep Guts]

Gday Guys, Thnaks to rosman and Snoooze for helping out again. I am still trying to get the current websites for these operators, Indigo does have a website name only. Please if you can fill the gaps with websites using Google and alike that would be much appreciated.

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express,www.airindiaexpress.in INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU www.wowmacau.net Macau SAR B757/ A320?
4. Western Airlines China
5.Okay Airlines, www.okayairlines.com Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, www.air-spring.com A320,A319 Shanghai CHINA
7.United Eagle Airlines, www.ueair.com A320Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet www.spicejet.com, India B737-800 (20 to become Royal Airways
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, www.ozjet.com.au Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, www.ana.com.jp Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express, www.hongkongexpress.com HK EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways,www.paramountairways.com India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air www.jejuair.net , in South Korea. Dash8-Q400
19. Eastern Express China
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Aukai Airlines China
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au A320
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.
37. East Star Airlines, Hubei Province, PRC
38. Cr Airways HongKong www.crairways.com CRJ700
39. Thai Sly Airlines Bangkok Thailand www.thaiskyairlines.com L1011 Tristar
40."One 2 Go" Airlines Thailand ?
41, Inidgo Airlines India, A320 www.flyindigo.com

Sheep

P.s Guys I have afew questions myself.

Is 29. ECO Air with YAK12 in Brisbane still going ahead?

What about 40. "One to go" is this just part of Thai Airlines, or is it an LCC start up must be indoubt after latest Thai Aigures?

36. Kakoak Air maybe a start up but they are using Merparti equipment and crews so Iay omit this one.

Any other changes or omitions please advise and thanks for the inputs greatly.

[SmoothCriminal]

Helloha,

40. One Two Go ,, Orient Thai Airlines' low cost susidiary with MD82's. Maiden flights on Aug12 from Bangkok to Ubon Ratchatani and Surat Thani.
Infact first aircraft callsign HS OMA an ex-continental, painted up in the usual Orient Thai modern artistic colourful scheme.


My two Rupiah worth.....

Smoothie....:ok:

[rsoman]

Ok, some info came out about Paramount Airways in the Hindu (a south Indian daily) yesterday.

Their top boss (who is a textile magnate) is quoted as saying he should get all the type acceptance issues (he is using ERJs which is new to this country for airline operations) sorted out in a few days with the DGCA (the Indian regulator). The first of five aircraft ordered should be soon here as well and the cockpit crew recruited are now undergoing training at Montreal.

Big plans about how he is going to revolutionise the industry including kiosk ticketing at Supermarkets (a little slow here as Deccan has already beaten them to it with ticketing from a major chain of cyber cafes), also frequent flyer plans ...(even before the airline has got off the ground...) etc. But also it has to be said that Paramout has never said they are going o be a LCC from the very beginning.

Sone details of the first routes.. the report quotes their chief guy as saying they will operate from Coimbatore in the south (and a centre of the textile industry)-Delhi, Cochin-Delhi and Chennai Coimbatore. Now the first two are 3 hour sectors at the very least, and I can already predict Indian Airlines is going to slash fares the moment he gets his time table out. They are already operating a one stop service via BOM.Same for DEL-COK, where Jet, Indian Airlines and Sahara all operate one stop services with already cheapo fares, so .......

His third sector is Chennai Coimbatore, a 50 min sector where full service Jet Airways already undercuts LCC Air Deccan 6 days out of 7 on an average, so things will get warm here as well.


Anyway interesting to watch what is going to happen..... No doubt Paramounts decision to base out of Coimbatore is not bad as there is good traffic out there, but I feel the promoters are rather underestimating the likely response of the main line carriers....


Let us wait and see.

[Kaptin M]

I see that heap of 5h!t, the Orient Thai aircraft is still operational.

If THAT aircraft can still fly (legally) from one country to another, then I can't see any reason(s) for any other operator being refused an AOC this year! :mad:

(Yes, that was me, in NGO, making lewid comments about your aircraft!)

[maelt]

..update from KUL folks, it seems ASMARA AIR's application for an AIR SERVICES PERMIT from DCA Malaysia has just been given the green light by the MOT, this happened bout 4 weeks ago.
Next would be the setting up to qualify fr the AOC...

[MUFFDIVER]

HolidayAir- Sri Lanka's first LCC (www.holidayair.lk)
Scheduled to launch first quarter of 2006

[Sheep Guts]

Ok updated ,any website updates warmly welcomed


1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express,www.airindiaexpress.in INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU www.wowmacau.net Macau SAR B757/ A320?
4. Western Airlines China
5.Okay Airlines, www.okayairlines.com Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, www.air-spring.com A320,A319 Shanghai CHINA
7.United Eagle Airlines, www.ueair.com A320Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet www.spicejet.com, India B737-800 (20 to become Royal Airways
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, www.ozjet.com.au Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, www.ana.com.jp Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express, www.hongkongexpress.com HK EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways,www.paramountairways.com India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air www.jejuair.net , in South Korea. Dash8-Q400
19. Eastern Express China
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Aukai Airlines China
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au A320
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.
37. East Star Airlines, Hubei Province, PRC
38. Cr Airways HongKong www.crairways.com CRJ700
39. Thai Sly Airlines Bangkok Thailand www.thaiskyairlines.com L1011 Tristar
40."One 2 Go" Airlines Thailand ?
41. Inidgo Airlines India, A320 www.flyindigo.com
42. HolidayAir- Sri Lanka's first LCC (www.holidayair.lk)
43.Asmara Airlines Malaysia
44.East West India?

Kindest Regards
Sheep

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[Sheep Guts]

and again.

Sheep:ok: :)

[AIRWAY]

That is some list sheep guts, must have taken some time :ok: Just added to my favorites for future reference :}

[Sheep Guts]

Yes Airway,
It is indeed a large list. But I cannot take all the credit infact 9/10ths of it was compiled my contributors, like yourself and others.

Keep em coming guys. any news updates on airlines, contact details, webiste warmly welcomed.


Sheep

:ok:

[Left Wing]

Talks of 3 new dedicated cargo ops in India, 1 of them is with AN 32:ugh:

The Russians are coming too ! Any one got details on this.

[divinesoul]

hey left wing.

looks like good times ahead for indian aviation.Read in economic times Boeing & airbus trying to set up Mro facilities and training facilities in India.I think if one succeeds in getting it done the other will soon follow.also i read there are talks of AI and IA merging.if privatisation is not possible i think the merger will help them survive the stiff competition.hope they merge and give a good superior product to the travelling public.i havent travelled ai and ia since the 80s due to their disappointing service.

All this growth is happening inspite of oil prices shooting up.thats really amazing.

how i wish amid this growth DGCA would also undergo a major change and change some of their stupid age old regulations.

hey any details about the names of the cargo ops and where their bases will be.

hi guys

one more new start up in india.its called City Air.Its going to be run by a dubai based Indian businessman from the tiny state of kerala.below is the newslink for more details
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1210393.cms

[rsoman]

also i read there are talks of AI and IA merging
********

Well I read it too , may times in many places. First time was in 1981 or so, on a Business India which featured the same in its cover. May be they will still be talking 50 years down the line!

[Sheep Guts]

Here s the list again guys. Its building intensely from the original 26 Airlines predicted by news articel in the Australian Newspaper in February.


1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express,www.airindiaexpress.in INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. MACAU EAGLE www.macaueagle.com Macau SAR B757/ A320?
4. Western Airlines China
5.Okay Airlines, www.okayairlines.com Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, www.air-spring.com A320,A319 Shanghai CHINA
7.United Eagle Airlines, www.ueair.com A320Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet www.spicejet.com, India B737-800 (20 to become Royal Airways
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, www.ozjet.com.au Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, www.ana.com.jp Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express, www.hongkongexpress.com HK EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways,www.paramountairways.com India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air www.jejuair.net , in South Korea. Dash8-Q400
19. Eastern Express China
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Aukai Airlines China
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au A320
29. Ex Eco AIR SLOT AWAITING NEW ENTRY ANYONE?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.
37. East Star Airlines, Hubei Province, PRC
38. Cr Airways HongKong www.crairways.com CRJ700
39. Thai Sly Airlines Bangkok Thailand www.thaiskyairlines.com L1011 Tristar
40."One 2 Go" Airlines Thailand www.onetwo-go.com Part of Thai
41. Inidgo Airlines India, A320 www.flyindigo.com
42. HolidayAir- Sri Lanka's first LCC (www.holidayair.lk)
43.Asmara Airlines Malaysia
44.East West India?


Keep the updates coming guys I believe ECO airways with Yak 12 in Brisbane has yakked off so to speak been told in another forum.

All contributions appreciated

Sheep[B]

p.s Guys just amended Macau Eagle, One to go, and alos heres a link to an Airline Contact site http://airlinecontact.info/index.html?country=SK

very interesting just put in the country and see what they got. Unfortunately alot of the airlines we have here arent on its search list.:}

[Sheep Guts]

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Sheep

[Sheep Guts]

Keeping the Dreamalive.

Anyone has any contributions. We are now in the last quarter of 2005. Be interesting to see if the start ups list will shrink or grow now!

Thanks in advance.

Sheep