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tech9803
12th December 2004, 03:36
http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_businessweekly_story.jsp?id=news/SUPER10184.xml
The goal is finding enough people with a high enough $ value on their time such that they would pay the major extra costs over and above the subsonic alternative.
Have heard proposals for flying supersonic bizjets from Teterboro, NJ to London City Airport and knocking off a couple of hours of ground-transport hassles versus JFK-LHR, in addition to shorter flight time.
Think this has potential?
Rollingthunder
12th December 2004, 03:58
supersonic bizjets from Teterboro, NJ to London City Airport
Ummm....let me think about this........No.
Check back in 2076.
Bre901
12th December 2004, 07:52
here are links to the projects' websites
Aerion (http://aerioncorp.com/) (seems to be down at the moment)
SAI QSST (http://www.saiproject.com/faq.htm)
As usual, a quick Google search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=supersonic.business.jet&btnG=Search) yields a lot of information ;)
bigflyingrob
12th December 2004, 08:10
Since concorde cost millions the cost of a Business SST which could work off a shortish runway, have the range and get through the noise regs would kind of HUGE. Best leave it to Gerry Anderson I think.
The African Dude
12th December 2004, 10:13
The technology is with us and has been for a long time. It would just cost a lot, that's all, and as nobody's goverment will be funding it, finding private investors can be the only way and without that it will not fly.
As tech 9803 says, The goal is finding enough people with a high enough $ value on their time such that they would pay the major extra costs over and above the subsonic alternative.
Bigflyingrob
The website states "QSST fully complies with present and future forecast airport noise and emission rules. " and as Bre901 says the website for the other one is down.
Check it out, it might not be as unfeasible as you'd like to think. Whether it can be marketed successfully however could be the greater deciding factor on whether it is produced in any significant quantity.
Andy
Wizofoz
12th December 2004, 10:26
Since concorde cost millions
Try BILLIONS...In the Nineteen Sixties!
And it never made one red penny for the people who built it.
fireflybob
12th December 2004, 13:42
It's a good job the Wright Brothers took no notice of the naysayers and dream-stealers who said they were wasting their time otherwise we wouldn't be flying around in pieces of metal which would make Sir Isaac Newton check in his apple and ask for a refund!
Yes a supersonic biz jet might be a challenge but why be so negative about the possibilities? - to an extent air travel has always been about going faster and if you have ever flown as pax from London to Sydney, for example, you will trully appreciate the meaning of "long-haul" - it's still a b****y long time to be travelling!
It may be true that Concorde cost a lot of money but many of the inventions which are currently enjoyed in civil and military aviation would not be around but for the development of said machine.
Chimbu chuckles
12th December 2004, 14:01
Supersonic bizjet?
Old news...they had a bunch of em...used to fly em across the pond and a bunch of other places...then the operators decided they were too expensive and the major parts supplier said "Aye fart in you sheneral direction!" and that was pretty much all she wrote.
:rolleyes:
falconbis
13th December 2004, 19:59
Supersonic bizjet is the only alternative market for a 1.6 or 1.8 mach cheap aircraft. Up to 85 - 100 millions dollard unit Netjets is already a lauch customer for 100 airplanes with Dassault project which is on hold untill engine overall at 500 h is overcome.
With the early retirement of Concorde it is pretty sure that one supersonic made by Dassault, Gulfstream or Sukoi (or all toghether) will flyin the next 10 years. I have seen a 50 seats project for airline base on a strech supersonic bizjets.
Sonic Zepplin
14th December 2004, 23:39
With out a doubt, the corporate operator will be the target market for such a beast.
The word is, Dassault sold their research to Gulfstream a few years back and Gulfstream has already spoke to potential custermers and has a custumer launch list in hand.
Forget the airlines, the SST is history for them and will unlikely be again for quite some time