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WindSheer
21st October 2004, 08:21
I was watching the breakfast news this morning, it said extra fire crews were on their way to Cardiff to deal with a serious incoming emergency.
Turned out to be a bird strike, involving a simple return to EGFF.
:mad:
tom24
21st October 2004, 08:27
You set up an account to mention that?
:rolleyes:
moist
21st October 2004, 08:27
Thanks mate, same here, coffee in bed watching the news.
They were saying "engine problem".
Has the bird gone through the engine???
Does anyone know?
moist
co pilot
21st October 2004, 08:30
tom24
What are you on about?
He's set up his "account" 9 days ago. He wouldn't have known about the birdstrike then!
You're a spring chicken too I see....................
WindSheer
21st October 2004, 08:35
Hi Tom24.
Yes, I was lying in bed with the news on. I got up ran to my PC, and joined the first forum I could find. :ok:
Only kidding, been registered a while, just never find the point in entering the endless Boeing V Airbus disputes.
AIRBUS ALL THE WAY:p
speedbird_heavy
21st October 2004, 09:28
Has the aircraft landed yet? Which airline?
Miss Heard
21st October 2004, 09:47
Aircraft on ground. No dramas. PAX awaiting replacement a/c. Story here...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/3762080.stm
Miss Management
21st October 2004, 09:55
Replacement aircraft?????
Will this have a knock on effect on the rest of the day???
NigelOnDraft
21st October 2004, 10:05
after being hit by a bird Bit harsh I say! I suppose the aircraft was just minding it's own business when this criminally reckless bird flew at it...
expedite_climb
21st October 2004, 10:29
Funny isnt it.
If a car ran a pedestrian over you wouldnt say "The car was hit by a person", but the other way round.
Birds though.... poor buggers.
What a wonderful language we have !
Edit to say - it seems the BBC have humour this am : The aircraft involved was a BMI Baby one....The aircraft landed at 0758 and the passengers, who include one baby, are waiting in the departure lounge.
karnak
21st October 2004, 11:47
what a nighmare does anyone know which aircraft was involved and which one did the replacement - id it Titan?
Scimitar
21st October 2004, 12:36
"Firefighters are inspecting the aircraft in case of any damage".
I'd prefer to see it done by a qualified engineer myself!
pipertommy
21st October 2004, 20:31
We did have the engineer with us ! few bent compressor blades and strong smell of cooked sea gull! Very impressive landing considering the situation & strong x-wind .Well done to the crew.:)
speedbird_heavy
21st October 2004, 20:39
The honeymoon couple on the news made me laugh.
The plain was shaking and I could smell burning and was really scared. It sounded like the engines just stoped. Terrified I was.
In other words, lets see how much money my solicitior can get for me.
look you
21st October 2004, 21:25
I think you'll find the honeymooning couple also added the post script...
"isn't it? wasn't it? doesn't it? didn't it?"
...And then went home to their children, demonstrating that traditional Welsh way of having children and then seeing if they still get on. If they do, they get married, now there's lovely.
If the engine had stopped then what the f*** was making all that noise?
Look You
speed freek
21st October 2004, 22:30
Bit harsh I say! I suppose the aircraft was just minding it's own business when this criminally reckless bird flew at it...
Always the way isn't it? It's like in pubs....always watch out for the smaller guys!! :} :E
look you
22nd October 2004, 08:39
Apparently a KLM Fokker was hit by a sea gull the previous day on landing at Cardiff. The bird survived and then attacked the ATC rover which came to its assistance. Does any one know if it was the same bird?
max nightstop
22nd October 2004, 08:49
Look You
I find the anti-welsh sentiment on your first post rather offensive. Welsh people don't ALL talk like that and some of them form perfectly stable, long term relationships in the traditional manner, some of them with other humans even.
Your sweeping generalisations do you no credit. They will do little to remove our belief in ourselves as a great nation, who could stand on our own 2 feet, without help or interference from England, and go on from strength to strength.
Furthermore you know nothing about aircraft. If one engine had stopped, the other 2 on the 737 would still be making lots of noise!
Baa
speedbird_heavy
22nd October 2004, 09:46
Furthermore you know nothing about aircraft. If one engine had stopped, the other 2 on the 737 would still be making lots of noise!
Please tell me you are being sarcastic.
max nightstop
22nd October 2004, 09:57
All right then, they are not THAT noisy. But with 2 engines still running, i think it wouldn't exactly have gone quiet!
flower
22nd October 2004, 12:10
I'm not sure if the seagull is still alive, but yes A KLM Fokker 70 diverting in from Bristol hit it and it survived.
Naturally such a large bird injured and probably pretty livid needed more than one person to retrieve it.
We had to hold off an inbound and delay a departure for approximately 10 minutes in total to retrieve the injured bird.
Last I knew it was with the groundsman.
blue up
22nd October 2004, 13:02
Latest! Bird is now with the caterers. Be assured. It will smell the same tomorrow as it would have done had it entered the aircraft via the engine.
Hmmmm. Alpha Catering. Oxymoron?
As for the Welsh jokes.....(overheard conversation)
"Hyer! My Blodwen is gettin married"
"Really? I didn't know she was pregnant"
"She isn't"
"Oooooh! Theres' posh!" ;)
look you
22nd October 2004, 13:40
quote
"Naturally such a large bird injured and probably pretty livid needed more than one person to retrieve it."
Yep, I've met a few like that in Barry on a Friday night. Come to think of it, there are some like that working as cabin crew...
Turn It Off
22nd October 2004, 14:43
All right then, they are not THAT noisy. But with 2 engines still running, i think it wouldn't exactly have gone quiet!
I thought I knew my planes a bit so I guess its my maths or something that is misplaced here??
Sky Wave
22nd October 2004, 14:57
APU? :confused:
max nightstop
22nd October 2004, 14:59
It has 3 engines, that is why it is called a seven THREE seven, stupid! Like the seven FOUR seven has 4 engines and the seven TWO seven had 2 engines.
Gareth Cheesman
22nd October 2004, 15:16
And the 707 was a glider ! ;)
Rushton
22nd October 2004, 15:29
And the 7E7 is as yet undecided
aviate1138
22nd October 2004, 15:29
It has 3 engines, that is why it is called a seven THREE seven, stupid! Like the seven FOUR seven has 4 engines and the seven TWO seven had 2 engines.
I know I shouldn't, but can you explain the seven SEVEN seven then? And where they have hidden all those other engines?(':D')
aviate 1138
Sky Wave
22nd October 2004, 15:33
Does a dusty bin have 21 engines then? What about the B52?
Is max nightstop being serious?:eek:
max nightstop
22nd October 2004, 15:40
Obviously they had to stop using this protocol once all the sensible names had been used up.
Airbus ran a similar system...
A3 TWO 0 two engines
A3 FOUR 0 Four engines
the A330 was originally designed to have 3 engines originally!
They now have the A380 to keep their "middle digit" one higher than boeing's (777) after advice from their marketing department said it made the aircraft sound more advanced.
Max
JEP
22nd October 2004, 15:48
It surely is friday afternoon........
No one mentioned the 717 - how can a single engined aircraft be approved for commercial IFR transport......
nitefiter
22nd October 2004, 15:52
Come on boys and girls,we should all know by now theres no such bird as a seagull!!
you should really know by now youve hit plenty of em,its just plain gull or gulls (if your gonna kill more than one)!!
then add
herring
common (actually not so common)
lessor black back
greater black back (big Bugger)
black headed (no black head in winter)
And a few more.
If you spent a bit more time after a long 6 sector day reading an observers book of birds,think how impressed the engineers and ATC will be (not to mention the Chief Pilot with the ASR),when you amaze them by identifying the remains.
:ok:
look you
22nd October 2004, 16:19
Believe me Nitefighter. There was nothing "plain" about the gull that was struck yesterday.
Apparently it bent a dozen fan blades, removed a quarter of the acoustic ring and there was enough left over to feed a 757 in charter config.
Don't know about "black headed", but it was definitely "red insided"
On the welsh joke theme...
Dai had proposed to Megan and been accepted.
"But", added Megan, before we get married I must tell you something dreadful about my past life."
"No," said Dai, "I won't hear of it. You can tell me after we're married."
After they were married and had set off for their honeymoon in Penarth, Megan again brought up the subject of her "dreadful secret".
"No," said Dai, "it can wait. Tell me when we're in bed together, that'll be soon enough."
That night as they got into bed Megan declared
"Well, Dai, now I really do have to tell you my secret. You see .I'm a virgin."
Dai didn't say a word but put on his clothes and travelled all the way back to his mother's house.
"Dai!" said his mother, "what are you doing here, you're supposed to be on your honeymoon."
"It's no good", said Dai, "I've had to leave Megan; it turns out she's a virgin."
"Well, Dai," said his mother, "in that case you were quite right to come home. If she's not good enough for the rest of the village she's not good enough for you."
:D
Sir George Cayley
22nd October 2004, 19:18
Was it taken to intensive care?
Or was it ternimal?
NiteFlite
Isn't it Lesser Black-backed?
And wot abart Herring Gulls?
As I said in another fred "Birds can kill you"
At work- Think about it.
Get up. Have breakfast. Go to work. Report in.
Brief. Sign the tech log. Taxy out. Take off. Hit a Gull -
Die.
Hum! Food for thought
Sir George Cayley
chiglet
22nd October 2004, 20:32
BUT ,
I cannot understand how a Trident 3 only has five engines. According to max n s, it "should have six [3+3] or is it nine ? [3x3]
watp,iktch
pipertommy
23rd October 2004, 10:46
Sorry to inform you all but sadly the previous mentioned bird (sea gull!)is no longer with us.Due to damaged suffered to his port wing,which was beyond economical repair,bamc was full that day,he was kindly and humanly dispatched.A service will be held this comming week to remember him.It was`nt the same bird,but it could revenge?:suspect:
Turn It Off
27th October 2004, 14:53
I was a witness to the incident and immediately my condolences were sent to the birds family. Believed to be the youngest of a family of five baby gulls, his time with us will be remembered for times to come. I'm just glad that the family didn't witness the sweeper cleaning up the mess
:{
TIO
TwinAisle
27th October 2004, 15:25
I just see Claims Direct making an advert about this....
CD: "Hello, Claims Direct. Your pain, our gain"
Bird: "Squark. I was mindin me own business, an' this Dutch tw@t in 'is Fokker ran me down. Swine. I was smashed within an inch of me life, I was. Yes, he had clearance to land, and I'd forgotten it, but I still want compo"
CD: "Ooooh loads of money there then to claim! Anything else?"
Bird "One of 'is baby mates hoovered up me mum yesterday"
CD: "Riches beyond your wildest dreams then, Mr Gull. We take 98% of the damages as our fee. Good job you didn't get mauled by Delta, they're skint"
TA