Overloaded aircraft monitoring in DXB?!?!?

[Coastrider26]

Just read a piece on the gulfnews internet page, appearantly the GCAA installed a radar monitoring device to detect if an aircraft is overloaded. Besides this system they use an secondary system measuring exhaust or something.

Could somebody clarify this as the piece looks to complete :mad: !!!!! to me. Since they can not expect the same performance in summer as in the winter. Then there is the differences in engines (make/models etc) But apparently someone has a good plan, I just fail to see it.

http://www.gulfnews.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=113782

[Fly Through]

Gulf News with it's accurate reporting strikes again!!!! :hmm:
As controllers, we monitor your climb out and the only time we would ever complain is if an aircraft maintains a lot less than the required 300ft/min climb rate. We are well aware of the factors which effect your climb performance and would only report on obvious problem ie: 2000ft at 20 miles out!

As for the crap about measuring exhaust gases, please gimme a break. Coastrider you should know better than believing journos, especially over here.

FT

[Coastrider26]

Figured it was kinda fake but I wasn't sure. I still don't get the local logic once in a while so I didn't know if it was something new or not.

Coastrider

( :mad: )Still enjoying the only country without crime(/:mad: )

[Yarra]

Coastrider, the authorities have cracked down on the operators who have regularly taken off out of DXB with uplifts that far exceed their certification. IE an IL 62 certified for 33 tonnes (as pax aircraft) heading off to Moscow carrying 42-44 tonnes

Yarra

[Coastrider26]

I've read several similair reports here and there that that kind of thing was going on. Pay the captain and it's taken care off. The thing that really suprised me was the exhaust system...which is the best April 1st joke so far.

Since the GCAA had more intelligent plans I figured this might have been a new one.

[Yarra]

CR26, the GCAA have as from yesterday, decreed that all operators from DXB will need to produce a W&B document in keeping with aircraft type certification.

[Coastrider26]

That's a good thing Yara. Sounds more sensible then exhaust amount measuring(or something similair).:ok:

[Dispatchguy]

Well well, there is no smoke without fire.
Some of russian operators here can hardly understand what a word Loadsheet stand for... I guess it says it all.

[MTOW]

(I just realised what an incredibly apt user name I have to be commenting on this thread.)

It must be more than ten years ago now when the (then) DGCA did one of their first spot checks on one of the post-Soviet CIS TU154s departing Dubai. There were 170 pieces of hand baggage on board, manifested at 1 kg each – (for those a little slow with their math, that’s a total of 170 kg). When these 170 pieces were weighed, they proved to be a little heavier than that… 8.83 tonnes heavier, in fact.

It would seem from that that many of those ‘curvature of the earth’ departures you see out of Dubai and Sharjah have little to do with poorly performing Russian engines or flex takeoffs. And if anyone doubts that hand baggage on a narrow body could total 9 tonnes, they obviously haven’t seen the crews of these aircraft arriving at the airport. I saw a fridge going through the X-Ray machine in Dubai once (with millimetres to spare) – it was in the hand baggage of one of the pilots. On another occasion, I saw every crewmember (there must have been ten to twelve of them) carrying a *** dissembled bicycle.

[Dispatchguy]

You don't have to go 10 years back! Today I saw crew checking in after a week's layover here with some 6 LG plasma TVs and other gadgets :D some of those being carried on board as handbaggage afterwards to avoid damages during on/off loading from hold.
Another 5 russian aircrafts are parked here departing in the next few days... so anyone interested in update on those? :O