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Old 12th Sep 2017, 11:45   #1 (permalink)
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UK-FRTOL examiner in Switzerland or Southern-Germany?

Due to some circumstances, I have an UK EASA-PPL and a German FRTOL ("BZF 1"), allowing me to communicate during VFR flights both in English and German. (This resulted from converting the former German JAR-PPL into the current UK EASA-PPL.)
Currently I am learning for the CB-IR rating and need to upgrade my FRTOL to include IFR-communications. To simplify life and the licences-mixup, I tend to catch up for the UK-FRTOL instead of applying for the German FRTOL, "AZF".

Long story short: Is there a examiner in Switzerland or Southern-Germany who would be available for training & examination for the UK-FRTOL?

Thanks,

Marcel


P.S. Or is it even possible nowadays to do this via Skype??
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Old 12th Sep 2017, 13:10   #2 (permalink)
 
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If you have a current UK EASA PPL then you will have a UK FRTOL built into it see Section XII Radiotelephony Privileges.
The UK FRTOL makes no distinction between VFR and IFR; how can the flight conditions determine your ability to communicate on a radio?
The IFR Comms paper is an EASA written examination and is not administered by RTF Examiners. It should be incorporated in the IR written exams.
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Old 13th Sep 2017, 09:20   #3 (permalink)
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Well, in my UK EASA PPL, in Section XII Flight Radiotelephony Operator's Privileges, there is the remark 'None'. However, I have English LP level 6 in section XIII. My take is we (myself, the flight school) simply forgot to complete the UK FRTOL exam...

I spoke to CAA a while ago and they
a) confirmed I would be allowed to exercice radiotelephony operator's privileges OUTSIDE of the UK (I fly across continental Europe, so no issue here) given my German FRTOL
b) would not be able to include the FRTOL into the licence as this is not an UK FRTOL...

There are three different German FRTOLs. One for VFR communications in German, another for VFR communications in English and the third one for both VFR & IFR communications. So, as I understood it, while progressing towards an IR I need to either go for the German FRTOL or rather to go for the UK FRTOL and having the latter included in my licence...
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OK if it says none, then you will need to go to an Examiner. There is one in Limoges at the Aeroclub du Limousin. Read SSL22 as it gives details of the RTRF Test.
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 09:29   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you! I will contact them...


EDIT: Just realized they are somewhere in the south-west part of France; it would be faster (or same) when travelling to a UK-based flight school instead.


Does anyone know an examiner in Switzerland or southern Germany (or western Austria)?


Thanks!
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The list of Examiners is here; a bit out of date, but so far as I am aware there is nobody in Germany or Switzerland
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 13:45   #7 (permalink)
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Thank you. Maybe I better keep it simple and find an examiner in the UK and plan a weekend-trip around it...
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