Expired EASA ME CPL-IR applying for PPL SE
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Expired EASA ME CPL-IR applying for PPL SE
Good morning!
I've had a look through previous posts and can't find a situation matching my own.
I have an expired EASA ME CPL-IR as I'm based out of the UK, flying on another licence.
I've never had a PPL or a SE class rating in the UK but now I'm in a position where I'm able to do some flying when I go back home so I'd like to do the PPL with SE.
I know that, as I'm flying on a foreign licence, if I decide to renew my ME CPL-IR or take my ATPL test, it's down to the FTO to establish my training needs prior to the test but to apply for the PPL, I can't find anything that explains what's needed.
If I need to follow the basic requirements, of course I have the SE Nav/solo hours but from 8 years or so ago.
I've sent emails to the CAA/EASA and received no response, that was a few weeks ago. I was planning to phone them when I land back into the UK next week but thought I'd try my hand here first.
Would anyone be able to shine some light on this?
Cheers!
I've had a look through previous posts and can't find a situation matching my own.
I have an expired EASA ME CPL-IR as I'm based out of the UK, flying on another licence.
I've never had a PPL or a SE class rating in the UK but now I'm in a position where I'm able to do some flying when I go back home so I'd like to do the PPL with SE.
I know that, as I'm flying on a foreign licence, if I decide to renew my ME CPL-IR or take my ATPL test, it's down to the FTO to establish my training needs prior to the test but to apply for the PPL, I can't find anything that explains what's needed.
If I need to follow the basic requirements, of course I have the SE Nav/solo hours but from 8 years or so ago.
I've sent emails to the CAA/EASA and received no response, that was a few weeks ago. I was planning to phone them when I land back into the UK next week but thought I'd try my hand here first.
Would anyone be able to shine some light on this?
Cheers!
As you have never had a SE Class rating you will have to go to an ATO or RF and do training to get a Course Completion Certificate so that you can take a SEP Class Rating Skill Test. As its an initial, the test has to be approved by the CAA, the school will know about that. I did one for a Cathay pilot about 18 months ago.
The CAA no longer provide guidance on this, its the ATOs job now, so don't waste your time calling them, you'd get better advise from a newspaper vendor on Paddington Station.
The CAA no longer provide guidance on this, its the ATOs job now, so don't waste your time calling them, you'd get better advise from a newspaper vendor on Paddington Station.
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply Whopity, I'll get in touch with them and see what they say. Funnily enough, the newspaper vendor at Paddington station was my backup option. 
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In reality...
...as Whopity says it's down to the ATO.
However, being pedantic, if you hold an EASA licence already, that doesn't expire. The ratings and medical will, but the licence itself is valid for life. IF you hold a JAA licence with a validity of 5 years that has expired, the U.K. CAA will want to see a valid rating and medical alongside an application for converting it to an EASA licence. Old lifetime 'UK CAA' licences require similar should you wish to convert that.
You can only hold one EASA licence and your CPL will give you PPL privileges so the only thing required would be to attach the SEP rating to your CPL. You can still fly privately on your CPL with class 2 medical. As has been said, the ATO should devise a training plan for the issue of a class rating, (not a licence) based on an assessment that considers recency/competence/experience after discussing your requirements and looking at your documents. No great shakes.
HTH
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However, being pedantic, if you hold an EASA licence already, that doesn't expire. The ratings and medical will, but the licence itself is valid for life. IF you hold a JAA licence with a validity of 5 years that has expired, the U.K. CAA will want to see a valid rating and medical alongside an application for converting it to an EASA licence. Old lifetime 'UK CAA' licences require similar should you wish to convert that.
You can only hold one EASA licence and your CPL will give you PPL privileges so the only thing required would be to attach the SEP rating to your CPL. You can still fly privately on your CPL with class 2 medical. As has been said, the ATO should devise a training plan for the issue of a class rating, (not a licence) based on an assessment that considers recency/competence/experience after discussing your requirements and looking at your documents. No great shakes.
HTH
DD
Before he sees an Examiner, he needs an ATO because its an initial rating test
And because its an initial, the test must follow the CAA test notification procedure.
I've never had a PPL or a SE class rating in the UK
