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Old 15th Dec 2016, 18:46
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The candidate 's medical has expired today, however his doctor can take his medical only within 14 days due to other commitments. Can I take his profcheck SEP(land) in the meantime providing he will not fly till his medical is valid again? Who is pilot in command during this profcheck?
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Belgium, SEP(land) 2 years renewal
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Who is pilot in command during this profcheck?
It can only be you! He cannot exercise the privileges of his licence without a valid medical certificate.
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If it is an hour with an instructor for renewal by experience you are PIC but you should know that.
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Quite obvious thanks!
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No way to fly the test. There was also concern, if the CPL/ATPL holder has an expired 1st class medical, but has still a valid Clas 2nd. We have been strictly told, that we cannot perform the check unles the applicant has again the 1st class, or "downgraded licene" to the LAPL/PPL.
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Whoever told you is wrong. (Unless your country's authority is imposing stricter rules than are required.)
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No way to fly the test. There was also concern, if the CPL/ATPL holder has an expired 1st class medical, but has still a valid Clas 2nd. We have been strictly told, that we cannot perform the check unles the applicant has again the 1st class, or "downgraded licene" to the LAPL/PPL.
Those privileges are embedded in the licence.......
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Originally Posted by milan.pilot
No way to fly the test. There was also concern, if the CPL/ATPL holder has an expired 1st class medical, but has still a valid Clas 2nd. We have been strictly told, that we cannot perform the check unles the applicant has again the 1st class, or "downgraded licene" to the LAPL/PPL.
As Mr Average says.

Also, what is the point in taking an SEP Rating Proficiency Check if someone
has 'downgraded' to LAPL?

No Class Ratings can be added to an LAPL
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FCL.505 ATPL — Privileges
(a) The privileges of the holder of an ATPL are, within the appropriate aircraft category, to:
(1) exercise all the privileges of the holder of an LAPL, a PPL and a CPL;
So as long as you have an appropriate medical, all privileges covered by the one licence.
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Quite what is meant by 'all privileges of the holder of a LAPL' is unclear - does that mean that the ATPL holder needs to maintain an SEP Class rating, but restricted to 2000 kg aircraft and no more than 4 PoB? Or does he/she maintain 'rolling' validity as for the LAPL? If so, what happens when he/she regains a Class 1 or Class 2 medical and has an expired SEP Class rating, but has been flying hundreds of hours within LAPL restrictions? Will he/she now have to be assessed for 'refresher flying' requirements and fly a renewal proficiency check? That would be madness...

Another poorly thought out Part-FCL regulation...
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