Conversion to other SEPs (no differences)

[fireflybob]

Conversion to other SEPs (no formal difference training required).

I know this might seem a basic question to ask but I'm looking for ideas and I'm also interested in what others do.

You have a recently qualified PPL holder who learned to fly on a PA38 and wishes to convert to a PA28 - 161 (Warrior).

What syllabus items and what training schedule would you follow to carry out this task?

[Parson]

Practically speaking, whoever you wish to hire a PA28 from will want to check you out on that a/craft (assuming you are hiring). If you've never flown one before, might be a couple of trips.

Before you fly, you should of course familiarise yourself with the POH, performance etc. Also typical power settings and rotate, climb, cruise, approach, flap speeds etc.

Learn as much as you can on the ground = less expense in the air.

It's the not the best time of year for it but I learned on a PA38 and then did a PA28 c/out combined with a night rating.

[foxmoth]

Depends a bit on the experience of the person, ideally with the experience here I would start with a differences brief - speeds, w&b etc. then send them out to sit in the cockpit for ten minutes or so just to sit and have a look, I would then go out and go through the cockpit with them before launching into the local area for a bit of gh - stalls, steep turns & pfl, this gives them a chance to get used to the aircraft before back in the circuit with a minimum of four circuits - normal, flapless, glide and short field (ideally with a stop go in there somewhere for a short field TO). This can be done in about 40 mins with someone who is good but low hour pilots will probably need a few more circuits.

[ACW599]

>Depends a bit on the experience of the person, ideally with the experience here I would start with a differences brief - speeds, w&b etc. then send them out to sit in the cockpit for ten minutes or so just to sit and have a look, I would then go out and go through the cockpit with them before launching into the local area for a bit of gh - stalls, steep turns & pfl, this gives them a chance to get used to the aircraft before back in the circuit with a minimum of four circuits - normal, flapless, glide and short field (ideally with a stop go in there somewhere for a short field TO). This can be done in about 40 mins with someone who is good but low hour pilots will probably need a few more circuits.<

The only thing I'd add to that is a walk round the aircraft to look at items which might be different from their previous type -- e.g. where the fuel drains are, where the pressure head is, what additional covers there might be, what 'tabs' fuel looks like -- and also an avionics brief if required. If the person is going from a C152 or similar type with twin doors to a PA28 with one or a Tecnam with a canopy, we also discuss the best way to get out in a hurry.

[foxmoth]

The only thing I'd add to that is a walk round the aircraft

Quite correct, meant to include that between them sitting in and me going through the cockpit with them.