New PPL Syllabus document - CAP1298 & 1299
Over the years there have been many syllabi; Longmans; Pitmans; AOPA; Cessna etc but at the end of the day most FIs teach as they were taught on their FI Course, irrespective of what named syllabus a school might claim to use. I recall one large commercial school that up to a year before it closed down did not have a course syllabus, it just taught the exercises in CAP528 The Commercial Flight Instructor's Guide.
A change to the exams is most welcome and the chance of having relevant questions at last is long overdue sadly, the powers that be could not be convinced to simplify things by producing 2 or 3 composite papers.
A change to the exams is most welcome and the chance of having relevant questions at last is long overdue sadly, the powers that be could not be convinced to simplify things by producing 2 or 3 composite papers.
We tried to reduce the exams to 3 'double' and 3 'single' subject exams, which would also fit in with the 6 'sittings' (which we're trying to have removed from the regulations at PPL level) - the way it used to be, before 'headshrinker horse$hit' HP&L was introduced, if you include the RT theory exam. However, the CAA looked at this and advised us that the costs associated with such a change would be significant for the short time before e-exams are available - so the present 120 questions remain, although the real rubbish has been binned.
The next iteration will probably be the PPL/LAPL 'e-exam' - 9 subject groups but we expect the system to allow an applicant to attempt as many sections at any one time as he/she wishes. All of which will be debriefed by the examiner - a fail will be given general guidance and a pass with less than 100% will receive a detailed debrief.
The next iteration will probably be the PPL/LAPL 'e-exam' - 9 subject groups but we expect the system to allow an applicant to attempt as many sections at any one time as he/she wishes. All of which will be debriefed by the examiner - a fail will be given general guidance and a pass with less than 100% will receive a detailed debrief.
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No need to dig Bungle-its all here in Standard Docs 10
7 CLIMBING
7.1 BASIC CONTROL TECHNIQUE
7.1.1 Climbing at recommended power and IAS
7.1.2 Climbing with flaps down
7.2 PERFORMANCE APPLICATIONS
7.2.1 Prolonged climb
7.2.2 Climbing at maximum rate
7.2.3 Climbing maximum angle
7.2.4 Cruise climb
This is the biggest problem with GA instruction and why it never moves forward, too many retired time expired out of date folklore authors who still have one foot in their mouths and the other in a Tiger Moth.
7 CLIMBING
7.1 BASIC CONTROL TECHNIQUE
7.1.1 Climbing at recommended power and IAS
7.1.2 Climbing with flaps down
7.2 PERFORMANCE APPLICATIONS
7.2.1 Prolonged climb
7.2.2 Climbing at maximum rate
7.2.3 Climbing maximum angle
7.2.4 Cruise climb
'headshrinker horse$hit' HP&L
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Most students struggle studying for one exam so doing all 9 in one exam would be a difficulty that is not needed. You have to remember this is an amateur leisure qualification and most students are trying to fit studying for the exams around work, family and flying.
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Well Mickey Ive been teaching ground school since you were in short pants and I can assure you it's a problem here where people dont have a book to look the answers up in beforehand
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When will the exams change then ?
Is it going to be this autumn ? How long is the "short time" before e-exams become available ?
Beagle is suggesting, if I read it right, that there will be just one large exam in 9 sections ?
What will be the role of those with a Ground Examiner rating ? I assume to logon to a website ?
Beagle is suggesting, if I read it right, that there will be just one large exam in 9 sections ?
What will be the role of those with a Ground Examiner rating ? I assume to logon to a website ?
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The latest estimate I've heard for the LAPL/PPL e-exam is 2016.
IT requirements, examination area, invigilation and data security requirements are currently being formulated.
IT requirements, examination area, invigilation and data security requirements are currently being formulated.
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I hope they have a rethink on the current nav paper as some of the questions are so far removed from PPL knowledge they are just ridiculous and I cant even find ATPL holders who can answer some of them.
One of the answers could only be referenced in the Pooleys APM PPL textbook, not much help to someone who just purchased a set of AFE books!
What is needed are some questions that will encourage pilots to stop penetrating controlled airspace not understand the mechanics of the tilt axis of the earth and the upper limb of the sun. I think we can safely assume that most PPLs know when its getting dark and light!
One of the answers could only be referenced in the Pooleys APM PPL textbook, not much help to someone who just purchased a set of AFE books!
What is needed are some questions that will encourage pilots to stop penetrating controlled airspace not understand the mechanics of the tilt axis of the earth and the upper limb of the sun. I think we can safely assume that most PPLs know when its getting dark and light!
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IT requirements, examination area, invigilation and data security requirements are currently being formulated.
Learner drivers, accountants, and people in IT world do their theory exams at a certain commercial testing centre that has numerous exam venues up & down the country.
Wouldn't that be a more cost effective option for the delivery of PPL e-exams?
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Learner drivers..what 50,000 a year, pilots 1000?
Never going to happen.
The paper system is ok IF the peps writing and proof reading get their act sorted!
The old papers we had for years with glaring mistakes never corrected.
What will happen is they will nick questions from the commercial they think ppl's can answer and bung them in a e-exam.
When I spoke to JP about the latest exams, he told me the exams were done in a bit of a rush when I pointed out the errors.
..a RUSH!
Never going to happen.
The paper system is ok IF the peps writing and proof reading get their act sorted!
The old papers we had for years with glaring mistakes never corrected.
What will happen is they will nick questions from the commercial they think ppl's can answer and bung them in a e-exam.
When I spoke to JP about the latest exams, he told me the exams were done in a bit of a rush when I pointed out the errors.
..a RUSH!
