FR in tailwheel airplane
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FR in tailwheel airplane
I'm in Toledo Ohio USA.
I have a pilot that needs a flight review.
However, my airplane has a tail wheel and he doesn't have a tailwheel endorsement.
Can I still give him his flight review in this airplane?
The way I read it.. this pilot may be rated single engine land, but he's not allowed to be PIC of a taildragger.. even in the air.
I'm thinking that I can't give him a flight review in my airplane, even if I am PIC during TO and Landings.
FAR 61.56:
61.56-c-1 Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor and
However:
61.31h-(h) Additional aircraft type-specific training. No person may serve as pilot in command of an aircraft that the Administrator has determined requires aircraft type-specific training unless that person has—
(2) Received a logbook endorsement from an authorized instructor who has found the person proficient in the operation of the aircraft and its systems.
(i) Additional training required for operating tailwheel airplanes. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (i)(2) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that person has received and logged flight training from an authorized instructor in a tailwheel airplane and received an endorsement in the person's logbook from an authorized instructor who found the person proficient in the operation of a tailwheel airplane. The flight training must include at least the following maneuvers and procedures:
(i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings;
(ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against such landings); and
(iii) Go-around procedures.
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Andy Abreu
I have a pilot that needs a flight review.
However, my airplane has a tail wheel and he doesn't have a tailwheel endorsement.
Can I still give him his flight review in this airplane?
The way I read it.. this pilot may be rated single engine land, but he's not allowed to be PIC of a taildragger.. even in the air.
I'm thinking that I can't give him a flight review in my airplane, even if I am PIC during TO and Landings.
FAR 61.56:
61.56-c-1 Accomplished a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor and
However:
61.31h-(h) Additional aircraft type-specific training. No person may serve as pilot in command of an aircraft that the Administrator has determined requires aircraft type-specific training unless that person has—
(2) Received a logbook endorsement from an authorized instructor who has found the person proficient in the operation of the aircraft and its systems.
(i) Additional training required for operating tailwheel airplanes. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (i)(2) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that person has received and logged flight training from an authorized instructor in a tailwheel airplane and received an endorsement in the person's logbook from an authorized instructor who found the person proficient in the operation of a tailwheel airplane. The flight training must include at least the following maneuvers and procedures:
(i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings;
(ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against such landings); and
(iii) Go-around procedures.
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Andy Abreu
AC-61-98B goes a bit further
"However, a pilot may not take a flight review in an aircraft for which he or she does not hold a rating or operating privilege."
While you can argue the SEL rating covers all SEL airplanes, your candidate can not operate a tailwheel airplane. The simple way to think about is what happens when he balls up a 172 during a crosswind landing next year. The Feds will ask how you could judge his landings in an aircraft he can't land.
"However, a pilot may not take a flight review in an aircraft for which he or she does not hold a rating or operating privilege."
While you can argue the SEL rating covers all SEL airplanes, your candidate can not operate a tailwheel airplane. The simple way to think about is what happens when he balls up a 172 during a crosswind landing next year. The Feds will ask how you could judge his landings in an aircraft he can't land.
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Thanks for referencing that AC. Very helpful.
I see your point of view about balling up a nose dragger in a crosswind.
It also says ...
" For example, a pilot who holds a private pilot certificate with an ASEL rating and a commercial balloon certificate may take a flight review in either aircraft and will have met the requirements of the rule for both."
It answers my questions and confirms what I've always known-- the FAA is full of hot air.
Thanks,
Andy
I see your point of view about balling up a nose dragger in a crosswind.
It also says ...
" For example, a pilot who holds a private pilot certificate with an ASEL rating and a commercial balloon certificate may take a flight review in either aircraft and will have met the requirements of the rule for both."
It answers my questions and confirms what I've always known-- the FAA is full of hot air.
Thanks,
Andy
An Endorsement is not a Rating
Do an hour of ground about tail wheel aircraft procedures. Do a couple hours in the pattern until proficient. Sign off the tailwheel endorsement. Sign off the flight review.
Or, document appropriate tail wheel training in FAA WINGS, he does a couple online courses and automagically gets a flight review in the background. Even if he's not yet skilled/proficient enough to gain the endorsement.
Nothing prohibits learning something new as part of a flight review.
Terry
Or, document appropriate tail wheel training in FAA WINGS, he does a couple online courses and automagically gets a flight review in the background. Even if he's not yet skilled/proficient enough to gain the endorsement.
Nothing prohibits learning something new as part of a flight review.
Terry
