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Old 17th Oct 2014, 12:01
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Why does he need to change anything? A Class 2 medical and his ATPL will grant him PPL privileges.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 15:58
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I have a related question which has come about from another thread.

This concerns someone who would hold a CPL, an FI rating and a class 1 medical with an OML.

They have found that they can instruct ab initio PPL but only POST first solo XC.

However, the OML applies only to the class 1, so if they let it lapse to class 2, they now hold a PPL and class 2 medical, and can instruct ab initio PPL with no restrictions?

Are we reading this correctly, is it a loophole, does it need clarified or am I really missing the point?
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 18:27
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Are we reading this correctly, is it a loophole, does it need clarified or am I really missing the point?
Just another anomally, the rules are not joined up, you are reading it correctly. Don't rock the boat!
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 23:01
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Essentially a Class 1 with OML is the same standard as a Class 2. Therefore PPL instruction may continue unrestricted, but CPL instruction is restricted as described in the table.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 23:44
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So if you pop your clogs in the air with someone who doesn't know how to fly, that's OK, BUT with someone who does, it's not.

Is it me, or....?
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Old 18th Oct 2014, 11:34
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It depends on the condition giving rise to the OML.


For a class 2 it might lead to a Class 2 OSL as in this example.


http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2499/Renal%20stones-CL1&2.pdf


Then instructing is unlikely to be allowed at all. Its best to consult the AME.
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Old 18th Oct 2014, 17:09
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Essentially a Class 1 with OML is the same standard as a Class 2. Therefore PPL instruction may continue unrestricted, but CPL instruction is restricted as described in the table.
Agreed with it being the same as class 2. Which means that someone with a CPL and a class 1 medical cannot teach the initial stages of a PPL but can after there class 1 lapses to a class 2. Super.
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I am failing to see where there is a problem. A Class 1 OML is generally equivalent to an unrestricted Class 2 (with a few exceptions as above.)
With a Class 2, one is operating as a PPL and as an FI, can instruct ab initio.
However to instruct a CPL course the FI needs to hold the same licence and therefore a Class 1. If this is restricted to OML, generally there is not a problem as one's student is post solo xcountry. The only difficulty comes with CPL integrated courses. The tables in CAP 804 are a complete mess as they have been cut and pasted from JARs and have not caught up with the fact that under EASA only a PPL is required for remunerated PPL instruction.
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