FI(A) - pre-entry hours - TMG ok?
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FI(A) - pre-entry hours - TMG ok?
For the FI(A) course which requires 5hrs prior to the course pre-entry test, do these all have to be SEP or will TMG also suffice?
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FI(A) course which requires 5hrs prior to the course pre-entry test
FCL.915.FI FI — Prerequisites
An applicant for an FI certificate shall:
Says it all!
An applicant for an FI certificate shall:
(3) have completed at least 30 hours on single-engine piston powered aeroplanes of which at least 5 hours shall have been completed during the 6 months preceding the pre-entry flight test set out in FCL.930.FI(a);
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Thanks. Reason for asking is that there is obviously cross crediting between the 2 classes and if you have the FI(A) and a TMG rating you're on for TMG instruction. That said, Whopity's excerpt is pretty conclusive.
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According to EASA definition TMG is a powered sailplane and not a powered aeroplane (different aircraft category).
‘Touring Motor Glider’ (TMG) means a specific class of powered sailplane having an integrally mounted, non-retractable engine and a non-retractable propeller. It shall be capable of taking off and climbing under its own power according to its flight manual.
I can't imagine that the FI(A) course is easier than my CRI course, and I had much more recency than 5 hours in 6 months, including a few hours right hand seat handling time, and still struggled to fly accurately enough from the right hand side.
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Don't be too hard on yourself GTE, you wern't THAT bad!
As has been said, there are two sides here. As has been pointed out the regulations do not state SEP class, just single engine piston and as EASA is supposed to be permissive regulation.....
However, you really would do well to be in recent practice with the class of aeroplane and, if possible, the type. I does make things easier as the structure of (at least our) FI course leaves no room for 'famil' trips. On a couple of occasions I have recommended a student to 'self fly' from the right seat to gain confidence and practice some basic handling from a different perspective.
Remember, you are not being taught to fly here. You're being taught to teach which for many is a very strange thing to get to grips with.
As has been said, there are two sides here. As has been pointed out the regulations do not state SEP class, just single engine piston and as EASA is supposed to be permissive regulation.....
However, you really would do well to be in recent practice with the class of aeroplane and, if possible, the type. I does make things easier as the structure of (at least our) FI course leaves no room for 'famil' trips. On a couple of occasions I have recommended a student to 'self fly' from the right seat to gain confidence and practice some basic handling from a different perspective.
Remember, you are not being taught to fly here. You're being taught to teach which for many is a very strange thing to get to grips with.
And ideally can fly it to CPL standards from the right hand seat.
That's an interesting perspective Whopity.
Incidentally has anybody *ever* actually completed the CRI course in 3 hours? Or actually bothered trying. My logbook shows 4:25 course, 2:10 free ridealong to learn from my instructor's instructional style, and 1:50 skill test. And that seemed to be motoring somewhat.
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Incidentally has anybody *ever* actually completed the CRI course in 3 hours? Or actually bothered trying. My logbook shows 4:25 course, 2:10 free ridealong to learn from my instructor's instructional style, and 1:50 skill test. And that seemed to be motoring somewhat.
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Five hours for me over three days and 1:15 for the test (with someone who's name's been mentioned on here as a thorough FIE).
And only 325hrs at course entry (plus about 100hrs gliding).
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And only 325hrs at course entry (plus about 100hrs gliding).
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Interesting.
Begs the question of how many hours would be needed for the FI course, if it was *only* about passing the skill test.
Not that I mind the hours my CRI took - I enjoyed them all, and learned loads.
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Begs the question of how many hours would be needed for the FI course, if it was *only* about passing the skill test.
Not that I mind the hours my CRI took - I enjoyed them all, and learned loads.
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