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Old 4th Aug 2014, 12:48
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Cfsops,

Not a great advert for your school if that's how much you value your CFI/HOT.
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Old 4th Aug 2014, 14:18
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Sometimes I lash out and buy sauce with my chips. Last night I shouldn't have, but I threw in a dim sim too, now no more sauce for the next few days!

Instructor in AUS.
PM if you have any questions.
If you want to make real money I can also keep you updated on when McDonalds are hiring.
.......Still would have it no other way!
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 09:36
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You mean you haven't worked out how to get sauce for free?! You've got a bit to learn yet......
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 07:17
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Now take a look at this www.traindriver.org to see what other folks can earn. They also enjoy free travel and have far greater job security!!
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 05:21
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anywhere from 200-1000$ a week. B cat IFR instructor. (not multi)

This is in NZ.
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Old 13th Aug 2014, 10:23
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That's a lot of money for someone who doesn't know how to teach stalling to earn
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Old 25th Aug 2014, 10:35
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Some overview of an ATO in Germany.

25€/flyinghour VFR PPL. same pay when "observing" soloflights. full pay during "RP"
42€/flyinghour VFR CPL, IFR SE/ME & SFI
no retainers.
The system worked like if your student was satisifed with you, you will get him for the next seesions again. Summarized a student had about 2-3 Instructors going with them until the exams.
I had about 5 flying hours per day plus 3 unpaid hours for briefings at 5 days a week.
my income was indeed quite good (VFR PPL and after 200 hours CPL) but it was hard work if one's doing it in a proper manner.
For me the personal development and skill boost was extraorbitant. Don't do it just for money. Your students will notice

Good luck to you
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:57
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My instructors bill me £40 for a 30-40 min trial lesson, and £60 per hour for continuing lessons.

The aim is that we all earn more than a bus driver and less than a train driver.

We also clean toilets, cut grass and fix aircraft - for which we don't get paid!
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Old 26th Aug 2014, 23:45
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My friend who is a PPL instructor and is being paid at £20.00 per hour from off chocks to on chocks. It cost around £128.00/hr for dual flight on a pa38. I wonder how much does the owner gets out of £108 minus the fuel and maintenance cost? This is in North West region.

Just out of interest and NO disrespect to other professions. Just had a plumber fixing my central heating and charges £28.00 per hour and plus call out charge of £48.00. This is crazy! The amount of training and cost involved to be pilot instructor compared to a plumber is relatively big difference and they earn a lot more. Supply and demand i say.

The rich is getting richer, the poor is getting poorer! The only way I see for FI to sustain a decent living is to have a 2nd job or some sort of passive income. I feeling crazy myself too, because I want to be a Flight Instructor.
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Old 27th Aug 2014, 05:42
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Out of the 108 pounds I suspect the owner gets less then then instructor.
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Old 27th Aug 2014, 07:27
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I can tell you: he WILL get less.

ps Garages round here charge £50 per hour plus VAT = £60.

That's why this year's staff Xmas bonus might just be a car hoist for the back of the hangar!

In truth, flying has never been cheaper and because it is so cheap there is little money for investment.
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Old 27th Aug 2014, 18:14
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Surely the answer is :

NOT enough!

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Old 30th Aug 2014, 09:11
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I get 2400€/ month period. No matter how mutch or little I fly or give theory lessons....Northern Europe.
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 21:58
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Last year 27K as CFI, night, IMC and PPL examiner in the UK. I made my money from a previous career and also currently have another income from another source. I would never consider working as an FI as my primary/ main career in a million years, just not financially viable as a full time job.
I know many schools now rely on instructors that have full time jobs elsewhere and do one or two days for a flying club just for the pleasure of it or beer money !!
A flying instructor is a highly skilled job with a lot of responsibility - the pay should reflect this, but it never will and this is a bad reflection on the industry.
Recently on a rainy day at my school 3 or 4 instructors were talking about FI salaries and what they thought they should be in todays market - the conclusion was - Rookie FI 20 - 25K, experienced FI 25 - 32k and CFI/ examiner 35-40K with the benefits of a normal job, sick pay, pension and paid hols. Dream on !!!
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Old 27th Apr 2015, 19:25
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A instructor now and earing £20/hr flying time.
£15 for no fly due to poor wx.
As a self employee, I was considering looking other schools to make ends meet but everywhere is just the same T&Cs.
Time to look for full time job and leave flying for part time, i say.
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