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Old 29th July 2008, 15:36   #1 (permalink)
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Passengers while instructing

I remember that recently (within the last few months) one of the many circulars I got through the post told me that the CAA had clarified the position regarding passengers being carried on training flights.
The circular went in the bin and I now can't find any reference. I've an idea that the circular was a trainingcom but the memory's never been much good.

My current employer has a policy of allowing any passengers on trial lesson flights and, for other training flights only if the passenger is a student pilot at a similar stage of training to the student in the front. They believe that it would be illegal to carry passengers outside of these circumstances.

I know full well that there's nothing in law preventing me carrying a passenger while instructing so long as they're not charged for it but it'd be useful to have some formal clarification of this to point my employer too.

Can anyone remember point me to the reference? I'm sure I didn't imagine it.

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Old 29th July 2008, 16:37   #2 (permalink)
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I can't find it in the trainingcomms, FYI they can all be found here:-
List of TrainingComm | Publications | CAA

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Old 29th July 2008, 19:20   #3 (permalink)
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I think that this may be the document you are looking for:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1196/20071...PRCampaign.pdf
Beware its not entirely accurate!
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I have been offered a flight as a passenger during a trial lesson. Is this legal?

There is nothing in law to prevent the carriage of non-paying passengers on an instructional flight, apart, of course, from solo flights by a student pilot. If the only payment made is for carriage of the trainee pilot under instruction, the flight is classed as aerial work, and no AOC is needed. However, if any passenger has paid to be carried, the flight is classed as public transport, and is illegal unless the operator holds an AOC.
But if you do hold an AOC you can't conduct lessons on an AOC flight!!

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