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Old 13th July 2008, 23:16   #1 (permalink)
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Language proficiency certification on new SRG 1119 form

Section 6 of the latest SRG 1119 (issue 12) is the language certification section:

"The pilot named above has been assessed for English language proficiency in accordance with the ICAO language proficiency rating
scale to Level 6 – Expert.
Tick as appropriate YES NO
CAA Reference .......................... Date.................................
Examiner’s name ........................ Signature..........................."

Are the rest of you interpreting the "CAA Reference" as being for the examiner, or the pilot being certified?

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Old 14th July 2008, 11:19   #2 (permalink)
 
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IMHO It looks like a declaration by the examiner and thus it would be logical that the examiner´s number goes in here.

The Candidate´s number, name etc would be filled in further up the form, so no need to fill it in again.

However, guidance by PLD or by one of the staff examiners on this point will be useful.

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Old 14th July 2008, 11:31   #3 (permalink)
 
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Yes, that's how I interpreted it initially BUT it's on page 2 of the form and all the pilot details are on page 1 - if the 2 pages were separated there would be nothing to tie them together.

If only there was a PLD number I could ring. Life's too short to voluntarily do battle with their dreadful automated exchange so I'll send them an email.

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Old 15th July 2008, 11:03   #4 (permalink)
 
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WHen next in UK I'll seek clarification from the team at EGHH who have been very good at clarifying these sorts of things in the past, quickly and with no automated exchanges to battle through.

I'll let you know. Unless you find out first.

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'Named above' is the clue...

If in doubt, write the name and CAA reference no. of the applicant on the second page as well, I would suggest.
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Having filled in many of the SRG 1199 the other ICAO English Language proficiency certificate; the box is the same and clearly for the Examiners details. Of course unless the Examiner is Level 6 they can't sign it!
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Old 15th July 2008, 20:33   #7 (permalink)
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Well actually, Whopity old chum, your erstwhile employers told me that all UK Examiners are deemed to have ICAO Level 6 English.

Otherwise there'd be chaos - because there simply wouldn't be enough English language assessors to go round!

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Old 16th July 2008, 09:32   #8 (permalink)
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What about the foreign ones?

I rather like the American attitude, "if the candidate can understand my brief he is Level 6". I am English and couldn't understand most of what this guy said to me!

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