Use of Landing lights at night
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Use of Landing lights at night
Just wondering what everyone's opinion is on the use of Landing/Taxi lights is when taxiing at night. Usually I teach to taxi with the lights on unless your facing someone either on ground or on final, but there is a trend at some placs to taxi with everything off except Nav lights. Comments ?
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After feeling your way around the airport in the dark.Do you then drive home with your car lights off?. If you have those awful daylight running lights you can simulate darkness by closing your eyes.Just don't drive to fast or sobber ,that way if or when you hit something you won't hurt youself too much.
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These people you talk of AoA who taxi around with their landing lights off have a special name - they are Jedi Knights. They should be banished to a galaxy far, far away because their medieval magic and the "Force" has no place on planet Earth.
Turn off your light when it affects anybody else’s field of vision or when your light inflicts on a landing area.
In some light aircraft and most bigger aircraft you have two lights - a landing light and a taxi light. The taxi light is not as bright and is pointed down at a slight angle to permit viewing under the nose. However, if you only have the one light it serves both purposes.
Turn off your light when it affects anybody else’s field of vision or when your light inflicts on a landing area.
In some light aircraft and most bigger aircraft you have two lights - a landing light and a taxi light. The taxi light is not as bright and is pointed down at a slight angle to permit viewing under the nose. However, if you only have the one light it serves both purposes.
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I used to be a rotorwing student in a USfamous training school last year, I was surprised that my instructor taught me that not to use the landing light when taxing or approaching at the night time since the bright would damage the eyes and affected other aircrafts, the landing light is for the emergency device. Is that right? As far as I understand, it should be turn the landing light on at the night time since my fixed-wing instructor told me that.
Flash your landing light a couple of times before engine start, if you are parked in an area without flood lighting.
Taxi with it on, unless pointing at somebody who also needs to see, including aircraft landing!
If sitting at the holding point, I also turn it off to lessen the distraction for landing aircraft (who get a bright flash as they fly by just before touch down.)
Taxi with it on, unless pointing at somebody who also needs to see, including aircraft landing!
If sitting at the holding point, I also turn it off to lessen the distraction for landing aircraft (who get a bright flash as they fly by just before touch down.)
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AoA....what is a landing light for, if not to be used?
I also teach my students to put landing light on when in poor vis conditions, so that other people may see us...Big-Sky theory does NOT work when approaching a GAAP aerodrome, as everyone arrives via the same place(s).
I agree with Marhadeen ,that Taxi light (where fitted) should be used for taxiing, or if not fitted seperately, then landing light will suffice.DO turn it off when in vicinity of other aircraft, or at holding point.
Remember...if you didn't need a landing light, then it wouldn't have been fitted
I also teach my students to put landing light on when in poor vis conditions, so that other people may see us...Big-Sky theory does NOT work when approaching a GAAP aerodrome, as everyone arrives via the same place(s).
I agree with Marhadeen ,that Taxi light (where fitted) should be used for taxiing, or if not fitted seperately, then landing light will suffice.DO turn it off when in vicinity of other aircraft, or at holding point.
Remember...if you didn't need a landing light, then it wouldn't have been fitted
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For engine start I have beacon on. Also I use the RWY turnoff light on the side of engine being started.
For taxi I use taxi and nav lights. I my nose points to somebody I'll turn the taxilight off.
T/O all lights on ... you can never have enough lights on to show people where you are.
One exception ...Strobes. Strobes stay off until cleared for T/O if there are other aircraft holding short.
Some airlines have the tendency to complete the whole checklist before lining up and sit at the end of runway with strobes flashing in my face for sveral minutes.
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For taxi I use taxi and nav lights. I my nose points to somebody I'll turn the taxilight off.
T/O all lights on ... you can never have enough lights on to show people where you are.
One exception ...Strobes. Strobes stay off until cleared for T/O if there are other aircraft holding short.
Some airlines have the tendency to complete the whole checklist before lining up and sit at the end of runway with strobes flashing in my face for sveral minutes.
JJ
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whogivesa: LDG light is for landing !
We use taxi and turnoff lights for taxi, if taxi has stopped taxi light is off, turn off lights still on. Entering RWY all lights on.
I think it is not a good idea to taxi with several thousend watts arround the A/P (with LDG lgts on)
We use taxi and turnoff lights for taxi, if taxi has stopped taxi light is off, turn off lights still on. Entering RWY all lights on.
I think it is not a good idea to taxi with several thousend watts arround the A/P (with LDG lgts on)
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Autobrake, I agree with you. Do not taxi around, lit up like a christmas tree if you do not have to. What I said was
" Taxi light (where fitted) should be used for taxiing, or if not fitted seperately, then landing light will suffice"
I will not taxi around at night, especially at unfamiliar airport, by braille!common sense SHOULD prevail here! I do not want to be hit....and I do not want to hit someone!
What will the insurance company say, when you tell them "LDG light is for landing !"
they will tell you that you are an imbecile, and that YOU will have to pay for damages!
"LDG light is for landing !"is like saying..."do not use the instruments when it is VFR"
Do not get me wrong, however. I agree with you that where taxi light is fitted, then this should be used when taxiing, and ldg lights should only be switched on when on an active runway!....if no taxi light fitted, why the hell not use landing lights???
Please do not misquote me again !
" Taxi light (where fitted) should be used for taxiing, or if not fitted seperately, then landing light will suffice"
I will not taxi around at night, especially at unfamiliar airport, by braille!common sense SHOULD prevail here! I do not want to be hit....and I do not want to hit someone!
What will the insurance company say, when you tell them "LDG light is for landing !"
they will tell you that you are an imbecile, and that YOU will have to pay for damages!
"LDG light is for landing !"is like saying..."do not use the instruments when it is VFR"
Do not get me wrong, however. I agree with you that where taxi light is fitted, then this should be used when taxiing, and ldg lights should only be switched on when on an active runway!....if no taxi light fitted, why the hell not use landing lights???
Please do not misquote me again !
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whogivesa????, I am talking about airplanes with taxi- , landing- and other lights like turnoff lights. Of course, if you have no taxi light use the landing light. I always wonder if I see somebody is taxiing in the dark without lights.
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Milligeville,Georgia,1990 a cessna 152 taxing without lights appeared suspicious to the local sheriff.The sheriff thought he had got himself one of them smugglers types,he drove his car lights on,siren on out on the runway to block the airplane unable to stop the aircraft with his car,He got out of his car just in time to have the aircraft pop into ground effect over his car.At this point he thought he was being shot at ,drew his weapon discharged two full clips at the departing aircraft.Fortunatly for the two drunk pilots the sherrif was not able to hit them.The aircraft was tracked on radar and the two pilots were arrested as they attemted to drive home from the airport.
Moral of the story use your lights!at night in Georgia.Or you could meet a fate worse than living there.
Moral of the story use your lights!at night in Georgia.Or you could meet a fate worse than living there.
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Handy tip for getting on the right side of ATC: Light a/c aren't that easy to see especially in crappy weather. When joining the circuit if you can use your landing light we'll be able to see you that much easier. Until we do you ain't got much chance of being fitted in among the jets. (Unless you enjoy going round in circles for 1/2 an hour a couple of miles from the airport). When you are being held at the end of the downwind leg because of traffic on final it can be hard to tell what point you are in the orbit ie turning towards or away from the field. Your landing light helps here too. Sometimes your position in the orbit makes a big difference whether you'll get in or not. Hope I'm not teaching anyone to suck eggs!
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I find that its best to taxi with them on, or you end up using the centreline lighting like a braille trail. As for landing, on for a low wing and off for a high wing seems to work for me. I get a case of groundrush in highwings if the light is on. Odd Huh?
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How about this one ?
Taxying at night in an aircraft fitted with strobes but no rotating beacon. I would normally go for nav lights and taxy or landing light. Technically anti-collision lights are also required but if only strobes are fitted can the PIC elect to leave them off in the interests of safety ie blinding everyone else when taxying, especially near the apron ?
My last multi instructor insisted on taxying with the strobes on which I didn't like at all.
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Taxying at night in an aircraft fitted with strobes but no rotating beacon. I would normally go for nav lights and taxy or landing light. Technically anti-collision lights are also required but if only strobes are fitted can the PIC elect to leave them off in the interests of safety ie blinding everyone else when taxying, especially near the apron ?
My last multi instructor insisted on taxying with the strobes on which I didn't like at all.
[This message has been edited by europhobe (edited 29 February 2000).]
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Europhobe...please do not come anywhere NEAR me with those Bl**dy strobe lights going!!! They are a pain in the A**e when on the ground.
Taxi/landing light and nav lights should be sufficient.
PS...I'll look out for you, AND you look out for me...ok?
Taxi/landing light and nav lights should be sufficient.
PS...I'll look out for you, AND you look out for me
...ok?
