'I' in the sky

Apparantly the CAA have a list of schools in the USA which have been approved to conduct training for the JAA PPL. The list appears to be IFTA, OBA, OFT, Pan-Am and UKFT.
Could any instructors who worked at any of the above schools during the inspection process confirm when the inspections were carried out and by whom ?

Sensible

I think that you have been taking too much notice of rumours put around by a certain plonker named henri (see wannabees) and this is all a load of cr@p - wait a few days and the CAA will be updating their web page for all to see in the near future. The posting by Watford on the posting referred to above will give you the current CAA position.

You have been deliberately misled into believing that list which you quote is accurate because no list yet exists and neither does the criteria for even arriving at one.

That thread which I refer to in wannabees forum is the JAA/USA-WARNING although I have to tell you that you should read and digest only the posting made by Watford. Honesly !

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watford

Latest from the Belgrano is that those schools whose training has, up until now, been accepted for the UK PPL will continue to be acceptable pending approval inspection which will take place when the approval criteria have been established.

To re-iterate from the other thread - there is no such thing as an 'approval' to conduct training for the JAA PPL. A list of 'acceptable' schools is likely to appear on the CAA website in due course and will not be restricted to those which have recently been visited by the Authority.

'I' in the sky

That is exactly what I suspected, that these 'approvals' were merely an extension of existing privileges. Hence I wanted to ascertain whether anyone had actually witnessed any inspections and could substantiate who they had been carried out by.

OneMileHigh

You can also consider the South African option.

Run by Air Atlantic Training, the cost is comparable and they have recently become the first school in Britain to receive JAA approved status....according to the latest Flyer mag

rolling circle

If you are referring to Atlantic Flight Training at Coventry, they are hardly the first school in Britain to receive JAA approved status - OATS have been approved for almost a year and a few others for almost that long. I wouldn't believe too much of what you read in Flyer, it hasn't got that good a reputation for accuracy, particularly where the JAA is concerned.

OneMileHigh

Sorry rolling circle, my mistake. It was in this months' Pilot magazine

Quote: 'Atlantic Airlines' Atlantic Flight Training division at Coventry Airport has become the sole UK airline to receive JAA approval for it's ab initio pilot training programme'

Anyway, it was only meant to provide an alternative to the American adventure. Competition provides better value

IanSeager

Rolling Circle - where have we been inaccurate in the past with regards to the regs? JAA/JAR is obviosuly something that we report on and go to great lengths to get our facts right...however, it is not uncommon to find that different authorities have different views, and that different parts of JAR are interpreted in different ways by different people, often in the same organisation.

We recently inserted a currency chart for PPL's, that took a major amount of research and as far as I know is the only chart like this that has been produced, we even managed to get it right!

With regards to Atlantic Flight Training, I don't have the issue to hand, but I think we said it was the 'latest' not the 'first'

That said, JAR, the implementation and the effects of the regulations are of interest, if you have any news items that you would like to put forward we'd be more than happy to receive them.

Happy landings

Ian

'I' in the sky

Don't know where South Africa fits into this thread.I am not looking for somewhere to train, I am trying to establish whether there is anything to substantiate the claims of certain individuals/schools in the US that they have received JAA approval.
That said, there appears to be nothing to substantiate their claims, and hence integrity.

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StrateandLevel

At a recent CAA Seminar (15 June) it was anounced that USA schools would have until the end of the year to gain an approval. At the moment there are no approval requirements for PPL training, consequently nobody has a PPL Approval.