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Old 17th Feb 2012, 10:48   #1 (permalink)
 
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Overflight Permits Belarus

Hi all due to many movements of my companies biz jets to and from Russia which require routings via Belarus I'm looking for a cheaper way to get overflight permits for the Belarus FIR. The current provider we are using is charging high permit fees. I'm not looking for another flight service provider but some information regarding how to obtain permits directly from the Belarus CAA. Has anyone some experiences with them especially about the reaction time for inital requests or changes to the schedule apart froms the official AIP information?
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Old 17th Feb 2012, 12:01   #2 (permalink)
 
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Belarus CAA impose surcharges for short notice applications regardless of who obtains them. I can obtain the permission within 20 minutes, but the surcharge applied by CAA will be payable.

providers must have a contract signed between them and CAA for short notice applications. Standard applications should be made 3 days in advance. less than 3 days notice will incur the surcharges.
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Old 17th Feb 2012, 13:32   #3 (permalink)
 
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sounds pretty effcient..do you have any contact details or person in charge at the CAA to conculde such an greement with the CAA?
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Old 17th Feb 2012, 13:40   #4 (permalink)
 
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Yes I do thank you.
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Old 17th Feb 2012, 19:48   #5 (permalink)
 
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Belarus CAA / Flight Coordination contact

These are the only number I have found for the CAA (Flight Coordination) in my collection - sorry don't have a name for you ...

+375-17-222-5941

+375-17-222-5392

Good luck
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Old 18th Feb 2012, 16:04   #6 (permalink)
 
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Try these and ask them about the condition for agreement :

Flight Coordination and Control Center (FOCC)

TEL: +375 17 222 51 21
FAX: +375 17 222 79 54
SITA: MSQFCHX
AFTN: UMMDYAYX

Basically if the person on the phone won't know English, go ahead and write them a SITA and/or AFTN

Brgds.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 08:14   #7 (permalink)
 
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3.6 The request for carrying out non-scheduled (single)
flights shall be submitted in Russian or in English to
FCCC branch in the form of the formalized application of
Form 2 to any address from the following:

1. AFTN: UMMDYAYX.
2. SITA: MSQFCXH.
3. Fax: (375-17) 222-79-54.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 09:47   #8 (permalink)
 
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Those contacts are for standard requests, not short notice ones. An agreement needs to be signed in order to secure short notice permits.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 13:33   #9 (permalink)
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Angel FCCC Belarus

You can sign an agreement directly with the FCCC Belarus, they will then grant the permits within 15 minutes. Our contact speaks fluent English, PM me for more details.

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Old 28th Feb 2012, 22:18   #10 (permalink)


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My agent apply usd 200.00 charge for urgent requests and 50% extra in case of changes occured.
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 07:56   #11 (permalink)
 
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Yes, sounds about right but what do you class as urgent? What is the problem ?
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