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So how is swisspost like Honda, the management here are nothing short of a joke, have lost count of how many we have gone through and not just department management but all the way to the top, I hear that the current ramp manager is doing his garden again, and as for the man at the top, the CEO, well according to the union he looked like a broken man at the meeting clearly stating that he has no clue what is going on or what to do about it, he also stated that he dose not have any faith in his station managers at all, so where do we go from here?
I don't think anyone was comparing Swissport to Honda (Heaven forbid!!). Read the piece again and you will see it was said in reference to something else....
Whats the latest on the nationwide ballot that was taken place. I have not had a chance to talk to my Swissport contact as she is based at another base at the moment.
Its like I said before the union and its members have no balls to strike, all you hear is talk talk and more talk, I for one am getting sick of hearing them always cry about doing a hard days work, you know where the door is.
anybody hear the latest goings on from swissport bhx apprantley they loaded the wrong bags on a flybe DUS flight and the aircraft went to DUS with the wrong bags on board oh dear
Its like I said before the union and its members have no balls to strike, all you hear is talk talk and more talk, I for one am getting sick of hearing them always cry about doing a hard days work, you know where the door is
Re the "wrong bags" on DUS flight, the blame cannot be apportioned to management on something like this, the responsibility lays with the ramp T/L and the despatcher, who both should have done their check of bag tags to check correct flight, just neglect of basics.
At Swissport BHX the ramp team leader is also the dispatcher, therefore there is no-one to notice if the team leader makes a mistake like this!
A prime example of how management cost cutting jeopardises safety...
Even if the T/L and dispatcher are the same person, surely he knows he is on a DUS flight, and surely then when the triple A's are passed he is going to check them?
Pisspoor mistake to make for one person it has to be said. One wrong bag may slip through the net once in a while. But if its a trailer load of bags... well thats just careless
This baggage misplacement happened a while ago with 2 x FCA flights one to PMI the other to LPA. I know they both have palma in them but its not good. Simple bag check stops the entire thing happening.
You can blame managment to a point but i dont subcribe to the philosophy that a T/L should be responsible for loadsheets, being 50% a dispatcher.
Birmingham airport workers could hold disruptive summer strikes after bosses said they “did not have the money” for pay rises that were agreed last year.
Check-in staff and baggage handlers, who are employed by Swissport, are angry about a 2.75 per cent pay increase that has not been honoured by their employers.
The two-year pay deal was agreed last year and salaries should have increased from April 1.
The same deal was agreed with members across the country, who also work at the UK’s busiest airports, including London Gatwick, Heathrow and Stansted, as well as Manchester, Glasgow and Newcastle.
The Unite union confirmed that Swissport had told them it does not have the money.
John Partridge, deputy regional secretary at Unite, said: “This is a two-year deal that was agreed last year but has not been paid. There was a formal agreement for a 2.75 per cent pay increase that should have started in April.
“They told staff that they were very sorry but they were not honouring the pay rise because they could not afford it. They said they simply didn’t have the money.
“They agreed to meet one of our national officers. He told them that they had to come up with the cash. We went out to the members to see if they would support the principal of industrial action and they said yes.
“We are now waiting to see what Swissport have to say for themselves. It is potentially serious because if Swissport say they are not going to pay then there will be a ballot for industrial action.
“They are a big player at Birmingham Airport.”
A worker, who did not wish to be named, said there was anger among staff, of which there are at least 150 in Birmingham.
He said: “We agreed a deal that should have been paid by now and the company is trying to get out of it.
“The company says it has no money to pay us a rise at all.
“The union is looking at what the next stage is but everybody is really angry. There is no point in having these kinds of deals if they are not going to stick to them.”
A Swissport spokesman said: “As part of a pay agreement a minimum increase of 2.75 per cent was agreed.
“However, in common with the rest of the world, the subsequent economic events were obviously not foreseen.
“Yet, despite our customers seeking reductions in prices, the company has expressed its commitment to increase both the salaries and benefits of its employees.
“We have invited the trade union to join with us in seeking ways both to increase revenue and productivity and reduce costs to fund these improvements.
“But unfortunately they have refused to enter into any discussions.
“The company is, however, continuing to consult with its employees to explore all ideas and suggestions that will enable improvements to be made to both salaries and employee benefits.”
A spokeswoman for the airport said Swissport was one of four companies that provided ground services for them.
She said the airport had not been informed of any dispute and that commenting on potential disruption would be “speculation at this stage.”
I bet..... if it had have been the other way round that swissport had made a massive profit and the boys said we want more than the 2.75 percent that was agreed.....swissport would have said no thats not part of the 2 year pay deal.......remember boys for the future.....boot and other foot comes to mind......and what has been agreed does not matter.
agreed with above, think of the future, reality is pay rises this year in most jobs aren't happening for obvious reasons... theres no need to highlight your name for redundancy come winter..
The baggage miss load flights were BOJ and HER. Both flights were delayed and subject to a/c swaps to reduce the wait. Loadplans had been issued before the swap but the ramp team didn't check before they went out. Unfortunately the despatcher who did know about it was more interested in checking out the cabin crew and passengers than making sure his aircraft was loaded properly. The result was the despatcher being removed from his job and new proceedures to make sure it didn't happen again. I'm pretty sure these proceedures were not applied to the Team Leaders doing the BE flights, maybe now they will
Not at all, I was trying to get all the paperwork done and juggle the morning allocations around so that those despatchers that had 2 flights going out together were on stands next to each other
Why on earth would you allow a dispatcher to do 2 flights at once!!! Surely that is just asking for trouble? Why not delay one flight until a dispatcher is available? This would have highlighted the problem of insufficent staff and more importantly, allowed both flights to depart SAFELY?
1 dispatcher doing 2 flights isnt a new thing... the staffing levels at most airports means its necessary to do this... especially in the morning when all of the nightstoppers usually go out within an hour or 2.
same with ramp staff and PAX services, all of which have all done 2 flights at once at one stage
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