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Old 5th May 2009, 04:29   #21 (permalink)
 
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How the hell does this happen?

Surely at reclaim, when X amount of angry pax were missing bags, someone would go check the belts and holds???

Very very very poor.

RTG!
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Old 5th May 2009, 10:52   #22 (permalink)
 
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From my sources at Swissport I was lead to beleive that a 2 year deal had been signed last year as a nationwide deal in coperation with the unions. The 2nd part of the deal taking effect from April 2009 to April 2010.

Im sure even Swissport directors wouldnt stoop that low and not pay the 2nd year rise
Ask your sources to check their wage slips then .
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Old 5th May 2009, 22:13   #23 (permalink)
 
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Just checked mine and no 2.75% pay rise present, the union and the managment are having meetings about it soon...
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Old 6th May 2009, 01:41   #24 (permalink)
 
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Im still struggling to understand how your company could even contemplate getting away with this. Surely if it is signed and in writing they cant do anything. Do you actually have it in writing?

If you let them get away with this, then im afraid they will take the piss even more in teh future. Stick to your guns guys
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Old 6th May 2009, 22:17   #25 (permalink)
 
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Good riddance to Swisport altogether ( and the s hasn't been left out by accident either ) a shyster firm if i ever did meet, i was working for Aer Lingus at LHR when Lingus decided to leave the third handling business at Lhr and sold out to Swisport Int, then with the demise of the Sair Group, and collapse of Swiss Air, 55% was sold to an investment group Candover ( or Condover as we called them ) over the next four years through crap management we lost just about every piece of work, and when you consider that under Lingus we handled nearly 30 Airlines at LHR, thats a tidy sum , then Swisport Int bought Groundstar , they were due to come under the Swisport UK banner , but No their management were to take over the running of us ??? strange ?? yet unknown to us Swisport Int were getting ready to dump Swisport UK , their part of their cunning plan was to offer voluntary redundancies , £15,000 a man , 114 staff were required, as you can imagine , a disgruntled workforce and plenty of jobs still around they were over subscribed ( cost £1.4 million ) a few months down the road the duty managers were asked for voluntary redundancies 20 of them at £20 - £25000 a piece , next the ex-Lingus staff were told freeze your pensions and give up your holiday pay, and the new Swisport staff were also told that they would have to give up their 13th month pay as well !! other wise the Company would fold !!!! due to the £2 million debt that we had made !!!

The staff by then were so fed up they said get on with it !!! Nov 16th 2004 we were shut down, 4 1/2 years later we are still waiting for Deloitte's to give us our monies owed !!

SO GOOD RIDDANCE SWISPORT !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 9th May 2009, 21:46   #26 (permalink)
 
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Just checked mine and no 2.75% pay rise present, the union and the managment are having meetings about it soon...
Soon you say ? The management cancelled the meeting and put it back until the end of the month .

Im sure that will be cancelled too .
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Old 12th May 2009, 22:05   #27 (permalink)
 
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Any idea how the Union-Swissport pay talks went today in London?
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Old 15th May 2009, 11:58   #28 (permalink)
 
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Er , read the post above yours legalize .
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Old 15th May 2009, 16:40   #29 (permalink)
 
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What was the reason given for cancelling the meeting?
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Old 15th May 2009, 18:16   #30 (permalink)
 
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Its more than likley they are about to lose a major contract so they are putting pay talks on hold just a thought?.
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Old 15th May 2009, 20:45   #31 (permalink)
 
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Ops1978

Enlighten us why dont you...
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Old 15th May 2009, 21:02   #32 (permalink)
 
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Legalize I dont know anything it was just a thought.
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Old 16th May 2009, 03:58   #33 (permalink)
 
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or it could be that management simply doesnt want to discuss the issue, hence they will put off the meeting as long as they can...
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Old 19th May 2009, 16:11   #34 (permalink)
 
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And now we all get begging letters through the door, what a joke... Still i dont know what the management are worried about as nobody at BHX, union wise, would have the balls to do anything about it if they said that there not going stand by there original 2 year pay deal. What joke on both sides, management and union.
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Old 20th May 2009, 21:53   #35 (permalink)
 
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Monarch to issue 60 day notice to Swissport as of 23rd May 2009, they should be signing with Gate Aviation within the next 3 days,remember you heard it here first...
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Old 21st May 2009, 01:40   #36 (permalink)
 
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I will believe it when i see it..Unfortuantely this is the 4th or 5th time this rumour has been posted in the last couple of years. Sounds more like someone wishing rather than it being reality.

What I dont understand is why everyone thinks Gate Aviation is going to be a saviour. Do you honestly think that in this current climate they will have better pay, working conditions, management?? I dont think so

If the ex-swissport management who now work at gate were so good, why did they get FIRED!!!
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Old 21st May 2009, 10:00   #37 (permalink)
 
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Because of the ridiculous situation of companies doing the jobs for nothing and airlines squeezing, there are no good handling agents out there....There are some good people on the ground trying really hard, but, to be honest, they are on a hiding to nothing..
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Old 21st May 2009, 19:12   #38 (permalink)
 
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It's funny how no one trusted these managers when they were at Swissport. Yet these same peopel are now going on about how good they are!!
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Old 22nd May 2009, 19:57   #39 (permalink)
 
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Well Friday 23rd may and all offices are now closed. There was no 60 days notice enforced so as we already knew the rumour was just that, a load of cobblers!!
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Old 23rd May 2009, 13:16   #40 (permalink)
 
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Looks like I was given some duff information, thats the last time I trust that talking frog I keen seeing on the grass to and from the car park....
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