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Old 21st July 2008, 20:45   #81 (permalink)
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Very interesting...and makes sense as mergers make stronger companies. Can I ask what the source of this info is please..... just that on the 14th we were told GLA to close.... aviance going to Menzies etc

With Swissport strike problems, not sure if they are in the mood to chat to anyone at the moment....

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Old 21st July 2008, 21:47   #82 (permalink)
 
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Mmmmm No Chance..never..

Never give your sources..ever..

I get the feeling you maybe a senior employee of aviance?
and if so maybe you could share some info...

aviance staff have went to menzies maybe a good start eh!

So far this year, the info passed to us from aviance insiders have happened..lets see what happens next .
very interesting times ahead.

As far as swissport well who knows my source has dried up there as they are shedding jobs Ryanair section in STN.and they need to be carefull.
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Old 22nd July 2008, 20:20   #83 (permalink)
 
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ALBA SWISSPORT AVIANCE MENZIES

... When will the 'alleged' announcements regarding 'alleged' mergers, 'allegedly' be made

All quiet on the front line in said companies and all talk of above, strongly denied by management in said companies.

Granted management will be bound by secrecy, but someone somewhere must know, so come on... SPILL THE BEANS - PLEASE!

It isnt all that outrageous for GHAs to consider merging considering the rock-bottom pricing mechanisms they employ to win contracts. You can only go so low, especially in this time of financial uncertainty...

Waiting patiently!
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Old 23rd July 2008, 17:33   #84 (permalink)
 
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Menzies & Aviance is on...

Well things are moving with the menzies buy-out of aviance.

The Motoring transport side will all go from aviance doing their own
servicing of equipment to TCR.

TCR top man in EDI confirmed today they will take over all menzies & aviance maintanance at all airports.

He said is should all be done and dusted by end of October.

more to follow.................wow.
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Old 23rd July 2008, 20:33   #85 (permalink)
 
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DAVYDAY

Is it just the maintenance side of things, OR the complete package... ie The complete Aviance Ground Handling Operation (Checkin, Ramp, Ops etc)...

I know Menzies are looking to strengthen their position not only in the UK but world-wide. I suppose if Aviance shares are cheap enough, it would be a good deal, considering the BA contract (its worth and Kudos)

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Old 25th July 2008, 08:33   #86 (permalink)
 
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The Lot

Information has it everything the go-ahead group own in the aviation side
aviance ground handling, m/t and cargo side.(including plane handling ).

They want out of aviation...Full stop.

Bought in 2001 and have never made a company operating profit in any year.

Put an manager (ex- ba) into both aviance and plane ,as part of a project had another manager (ex-swissport) go up and down the country to check budgets/manpower/weaknesses.

conclusion sell out.

menzies will take the lot and streamline into one complete ground handling company. they will outsource the m/t side.


Dates of November 2008 or Jan 01st 2009 ....


next update 3 weeks..!
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Old 25th July 2008, 12:43   #87 (permalink)
 
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Thanks DD.

This IS a GENUINE RUMOUR isint it? lot of staff with Menzies are starting to asking questions as Iam sure staff from Aviance too...

Just hope the staff are told sooner rather than later, as rumour isnt always constructive. It can be demoralising.

Keep up the 'investigate journalism' and let us know
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Old 26th July 2008, 00:23   #88 (permalink)
 
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Yet again...complete and utter rubbish.

and still awaiting that anouncement on GLA you "promised as true" weeks ago.......I think you are talking from your a**e.
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Old 26th July 2008, 03:09   #89 (permalink)
 
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You`ve been rumbled

oh yes .AT....................
..YOUR PLAN HAS BEEN BLOWN,WIDE APART
shame.

The GLA station has lost employees from aviance..in the last few weeks.
redudancy payments have been made do you need names ?
the strong ramp team Leading hands, 19 full time, (over 12 year men ex MAS)
sickened by your company. have gone..2 weeks ago
waso,jamie,mick to name a few of the guys that dedicated their time and energy to deviance(aviance)and many more shit scared that their next.

Dont go there mate.

Your company is going down the swanny and no one cares about the company just the good men.

stop hiding the truth. PR blew the whistle before he left aviance 3 weeks ago ask MM (BHX).

The station management team are shitting themselves waiting for closure
already informed by HR. even your management & admin team have approached other companies and are giving info out.

good night and good by.

TURN THE LIGHTS OUT THERES A GOOD BOY.


LOTS MORE TO COME ....
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Old 26th July 2008, 21:06   #90 (permalink)
 
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I see PR has left Aviance indeed... Dont know if it was his own decision, or he was shown the door. Now at Eastern Airways. What whistle did he blow?

Ive also been told there is an HR woman (just arrived in EDI) to cover the Scottish stations - all of a sudden. Is this because of the alleged Menzies 'takeover'...

Heres hoping all will be ok for Aviance staff in the long run if this indeed happens. They are a great bunch of people - honestly. They have had to pick up BAs broken pieces and put them together with very limited time, training and experience - but - they have done it, and a great job at that!

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Old 28th July 2008, 16:08   #91 (permalink)
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Who Cares

Who cares what`s going on.
As long as the staff are taken care of.

If there is any truth in it it will all come out.heard it all before.

Boring boring boring....

Peter has moved on to work with ND at Regional handling -good luck to all.
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Old 29th July 2008, 21:46   #92 (permalink)
 
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cheers Gerry...

"Who cares what`s going on.
As long as the staff are taken care of.

If there is any truth in it it will all come out.heard it all before."


... what you've said is very true. The rumour mill at Glasgow is in overdrive at the moment - makes coming in for shifts a bit more interesting when you don't know what you're coming in to, or indeed who it is rumoured you're gonna' be working for! Hopefully the staff can take care of themselves, 'cos it's sure as falkirk that the managers won't!


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Old 31st July 2008, 14:10   #93 (permalink)
 
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aviance/bmi

bmi have renewed their handling contracts with aviance at all stations that aviance handle them just a question would bmi renew if it thought aviance was about to close some stations or in talks with menzies/swissport for a takeover?
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Old 31st July 2008, 23:18   #94 (permalink)
 
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Understand from my mole that the new HR woman has been employed on a 6 month contract only to cover staff shortages. Make of that what you will.
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any truth in rumour heard yesterday that company called albagroundhandling taken over aviance in scotland
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Old 3rd August 2008, 17:58   #96 (permalink)
 
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Tally Ho Old Chap...

Wouldnt think Alba could afford to 'buy' Aviance. Alba are a relatively new GHA, and only operate out of GLA and EDI at the minute. Aviance are massive in the UK and around the world (under different guises)

Where did you hear of this...
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Old 3rd August 2008, 18:06   #97 (permalink)
 
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it came from cabin crew p merchant in abz yesterday alba also moving in to abz
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Old 3rd August 2008, 20:51   #98 (permalink)
 
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Must be true then if it came from cabin crew !
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Old 3rd August 2008, 22:02   #99 (permalink)
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can anybody give any info on this albagroundhandling as i never heard of them ive been told that it is a guy that owns them but there is a tie up with virgin atlantic and is good friends with sir richard branson?

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Old 4th August 2008, 22:42   #100 (permalink)
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Alba are a relatively new GHA. Started in GLA and now in EDI. They only handle Globespan in EDI (exclusive handling agent to Globespan), but are bigger in GLA handling Globespan, flybe.com and Virgin.

Owned in part by G Rodden, and part by T Dalrymple of Globespan fame.

Seems to be a success and holding their own on all fronts.

PS - Where has DavyDay gone?

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