Redcap49

The 96er....As you will probably be aware I know scores of flight deck and cabin crew and the general concencus of opinion is that they miss their own staff doing the handling but commercial decisions rule.By and large Aviance have done a reasonable job considering the lack of training.The comment about being slow to attend aircraft is not commonplace amongst all flight deck crew.There may have been one or two who complained but that was generally because dispatchers may have been delayed on a previous service,which of course not all pilots would understand.You will never keep BA pilots happy all of the time.
Nevertheless,keep up the expected standards and please make sure my shuttle to LHR is not delayed on Monday!!!!

MaskedDispatcher

i also heard that aviance OTP is far superior to BA's from both pilots and managment. dont forget that they are also judged on closing all doors up and down at -3mins . . RTG was not a 'studied' statistic under the 'old order' and aviance are still beating it with 'narrowed goalposts' . . BMI next? i'm sure they're watching BA/aviance performance/relationship with interest

Out Of Trim

Heard there will be 48 redundancies of Aviance staff at LHR

and possibly more at other Stations TBA.

A sad time for the industry.

tristar500

Whats the reason for the redundancies at LHR? Is it the loss of a contract...

Times are hard for all handling agencies and with airlines / operators cutting back, who knows what will happen next. Agencies can only go so far - cost wise - before they end up doing the contract for nothing...

DAVYDAY

Ground1.
Just been informed that there will be no redundancies at GLA as the summer schedule is very busy and we need to keep the existing staf.

FACTS
Thats why staff were given packages 2 weeks ago and are now with Menzies and Alba!

42 was a figure and they Have shed jobs.
Yes very busy during the summer ,however,The station manager has said to the staff "you have to work with what you`ve got and were getting no mo manpower".

Ramp Manager has gone....
Regional project manager left last week -reason no tools to do the job.(Plenty in head office)


Yes it is a shame for the staff and I do hope they all get other jobs.

I have plenty friends in aviance thats where the info comes, does that not tell you something.

Ground1

I was referring to Customer Services and not any other department.

TCX69

So as for airlines currently handled by Aviance at LGW, quite a few I believe? Wonder who will go where!

Adria
Air Comet
Air France
Air Namibia
Atlas-Blue
Austrian
Clickair
Delta
Etihad
FlyLAL
KTHY
TAROM

Afriqiyah
AirBaltic
Air Zimbabwe
Belavia
Estonian Air
Ethiopian
Flystar Astraeus
Olympic
US Airways
Zoom

Dropline

Think your list is out of date...

Air Comet - Groundstar
Atlas Blue - Servisair
Delta - Servisair
Ethiad - moved to LHR last year and before that were handled by Servisair
Afriqiyah - already gone to Groundstar
Estonian - Servisair
Ethiopian - not currently operating to LGW - just LHR

But yes, it will be interesting to see who gets what... and lets hope all the Aviance staff being made redundant get taken on by the other handling agents.

silverstreak

What the hell is going on with Aviance...

You would think that having won the BA contract - and only just having completed the first year - that things wouldnt be as bad as are being posted on here, and in other forums... They seem to be in a bad way.

How can they be 'low on cash' already? I suppose the parent group (GoAhead) are realising now that aviation is like a football team - money money money...

Wikstroem

Air Baltic - Servisair for some time now
Belavia has gone to Servisair.

EC-ILS

I heard a rumour today the Aviance may be pulling out of DUB, any info on that?

DAVYDAY

Aviance held a meeting with senior Union Reps & Management at GLA today at 1400hrs.

Just heard that Station WILL close end October this year.
nothing been confirmed,as yet.

Seems HR are doing their rounds station by station.

anyone heard anything!

Alan Tracey

Sorry confused as that last post as did not really make any sense.....

Union reps told by management at 1400, heard closure, but nothing confirmed!!

Would the union reps have not told the staff they represent by now......?..

silverstreak

If this news is in fact correct, and GLA is closing at the end of OCT, who will BA get to handle them?

Whos next on the 'slashers' list? Just because a particular station makes money, is it worth keeping it open when so many others dont make money?

Have heard a story that BA are talking to 'other' parties with a view to them taking over all handling duties as BA are getting nervous at the closures Aviance are making...

mancairboy

some good news for aviance at manchester (for a change) brussels airlines have just signed for another two years effective from 1st aug

groundhand

mancairboy,

I don't want to rain on your parade but the contract will be a standard IATA GHA which really means anything between 60 and 90 days notice. All the 2 years term does is lock the price in.

As each Aviance location closes the pressure of the overhead gets higher on those remaining. It is highly unlikely that Aviance HO can reduce the company overhead in the same proportion to the size of business (as against the whole business) that closes. This will change the dynamics of previously profitable locations.

I sincerely hope that all at MAN are secure but the UK GH market has been oversubscribed and unprofitable (for the vast majority) for several years and something had to give.

HZ123

Might you not be looking at taking over @ LGW for BA later this year, that looks to be a very strong rumour as BA will look too reduce their staffing levels probably by shafting LGW upstairs and downstairs.

silverstreak

So... Menzies Aviation 'have been talking' to Aviance about a buyout... Interesting news indeed.

Swissport talking with ALBA too.

Interesting times ahead

DAVYDAY

Menzies in talks with Alba, I beleive deal almost done .
Menzies will control the south,Alba the north.

Aviance talking to both Swissport and Menzies.

Gourmet aviation who bought Regional Handling selling to Aviapartner.

silverstreak

Any ideas when announcements will be made regarding these 'mergers' of GHAs