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Old 1st May 2008, 18:01   #21 (permalink)
 
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Aviance GLA

Its the same story at GLA, we've lost First Choice, Flyglobespan, declined Virgin and missed out on Aer Lingus, Thomas Cook and others to different handling agents.

We only handle BA, Zoom, Monarch and some seasonal airlines like Balkan, Air Europa, Futura, Eurocypria and Iberworld.

I think the company as a whole is totally downsizing and Im not sure the BA contract was really worth it, since we now have redundancies.
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Old 2nd May 2008, 19:51   #22 (permalink)
 
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aviance aberdeen

Aviance in Aberdeen seem to be growing in Aberdeen, they are now the biggest handling agent.
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Old 6th May 2008, 08:20   #23 (permalink)
 
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Wake Up

Build it up sell it off?
You think they will stay at ABZ and get rid of the rest?
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Old 8th May 2008, 17:53   #24 (permalink)
 
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ill give them 18 months at MAN.......
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Old 8th May 2008, 22:32   #25 (permalink)
 
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Aviance Man

Do u really think they are looking to close down MAN????

When u think how big and strong the company was at MAN about four years ago...it is really unbelievable....

According to me they should really look at their management and clean a bit...
Too many wrong decisions were made and what happened to those desicion makers????
Well, they are still in place......
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Old 9th May 2008, 13:20   #26 (permalink)
 
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hi,

i really think so, i know they've got the easyjet contact, but all i know is their are people form Menzies coming over to us. Swissport are also in a bad position, they've had two 180 days notices slapped on them recently, i dont think they last too much longer......

Its all good news for us(servisair), shame for the others, its all down to bad managment. We have learnt our lesson, we was losing money on the PK flights before they went, but know we'r charging much more.....

I think the airlines at MAN who arnt under Servisair are starting to realise that paying alittle extra for handling with a stable handler is better than using a cheaper unreliable handler in the long run.....

we'll see what happens....

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Old 9th May 2008, 14:04   #27 (permalink)
 
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take off the rose tinted glasses!!!!!oil prices through the roof means cut costs however you can,and that means going with the cheapest handling agent
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Old 9th May 2008, 14:31   #28 (permalink)
 
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i totally agree, and im sure no one will disagree with what your saying, but the fact is, no matter what oil prices go up to they still need a reliable handler......

or they could keep hoping between companies, which is what some are doing now....

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Old 9th May 2008, 15:40   #29 (permalink)
 
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Menzies have the ezy contract at MAN, just taken lingus from servisair, and AA from ringway, believe a couple on T2 also going menzies way soon.
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Old 9th May 2008, 19:04   #30 (permalink)
 
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yep, i must admit, menzies have improved alot over the past few months.

also, i wonder if the rumor about AA coming into T1, and going to servisair will come true? This may have been changed due to the cancelling of their winter ORD service.

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Old 11th May 2008, 11:34   #31 (permalink)
 
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Would be strange for AA to move after opening a shiny new (well it's very bright) ticket/customer service desk in T3.

They seem to be digging their heels in a little.
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Old 14th May 2008, 13:58   #32 (permalink)
 
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Aviance lgw

It has just been anounced that Aviance will be pulling out of lgw as of 31st August 2008. Cargo will remain and so will the lounge and tkt desk but everything else gone.
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Old 14th May 2008, 16:22   #33 (permalink)
 
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Aviance

I knew they were in a bit of trouble , but didnt expect them to pull out all together !!!

Hope all the staff can find jobs with the other handling agents ?

Good luck to them all

What contracts do they still handle at Gatwick ?
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Old 14th May 2008, 19:49   #34 (permalink)
 
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Real shame as the best staff on the airport.

Not surprised though, as airport is now nearly Easyland and not much work to support 5 agents. I am sure this closure will be the saving grace for the other huge loss makers - Servisair and Swissport.
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Old 14th May 2008, 20:09   #35 (permalink)
 
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I am sure this closure will be the saving grace for the other huge loss makers - Servisair and Swissport??

I hardly think Swissport are making a huge loss? On the contrary they are probably the biggest handling agent in LGW at the moment
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Old 15th May 2008, 08:07   #36 (permalink)
 
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Post LGW

Aviance LGW will withdraw from all Ground Handling services in the North and South terminals; with the loss of 308. Closure date is 31 August 2008.
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Old 15th May 2008, 08:09   #37 (permalink)
 
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Post LGW

308 Jobs to go!
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Old 15th May 2008, 09:57   #38 (permalink)
 
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LGWSTAR

Size does not equal profit.

Swissport may well be the largest agent at LGW but that, in itself, is absolutely no measure of profitability. LGW is notoriously difficult to make sustainable profits from, Menzies are probably the only ones who turn a decent % due to their pricing structure with EZY.

GH
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Old 15th May 2008, 10:24   #39 (permalink)
 
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Was really shocked to hear the news that Aviance had decided to pull out of Gatwick, I always assumed that was our biggest station, as our head office at First Point is down that way. Ive met a lot of really good people from LGW who have been up at GLA when we had some troubles and they were all very good at there jobs. Best of Luck to everyone effected in finding new employment.
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Old 15th May 2008, 10:27   #40 (permalink)
 
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also, i wonder if the rumor about AA coming into T1, and going to servisair will come true? This may have been changed due to the cancelling of their winter ORD service.
Not cancelled, just reduced to 5xWeek
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