Flight/Ground Ops, Crewing and DispatchA forum for the people who are engaged in operational control/flight dispatch/crewing and their colleagues airside in ramp dispatch, load control and ground handling, to discuss issues directly related to keeping their aircrew and aircraft operational.
Whether you are Mainline or Regional or BA Connect Ground Staff working in the regions please share your thoughts, news, and any other information with fellow colleagues across the country here.
With the Flybe takeover of BA Connect imminent, the next few weeks could be a turbulent time with some of us facing redundancy etc..... so this can be our place to share our views without pilots comparing how big their Aircraft Engines are.
stupot7783, I hear @ Man they allready have the 3rd party handler to take over from us mainline staff its now up to us to prove we can do a better job than them during oue 90 day period through the union !! only have no confidence in the union to do us justice and only try to get us a better servernce package instead of fighting for our jobs
Its all about cost. A third party handler is cheaper. Its unfortunately not about people. I do believe their are better opportunties out side BA. We have not been looked after in a long time, and many of my friends including myself are becoming increasing negative ( not good for the sole), you just have to look at the pilots threads. Our passengers are jumping ship. And many deep down inside do not want to go to LHR. 'BA City Flyer' well it's the same management team, as the one who never valued us !!! I would take the money and run xxx Work for a smaller outfit become an individual again. Their is life after BA.
So they are calling as far as MAN into the inner walls of Fortress LHR, to defend the last base held. Surrender the 'Flag' 'BA' they are not worthy to hold it.
You honestly see mainline as tru? MAN will die for long haul. BA need to consolidate, guess where. Before you ask, not worked BA. 3 years, drove my more economic franchishe down. We were backed by a company that could of bought BA, for cash. It is another feeder plan for LHR. SHT will go,
The deal is done, watch for the announcement Monday.
Here at BRS, we're all going. Not sure where yet, but TUPE to Circusair is a strong possibility. A lot of the staff already have jobs elsewhere, and are waiting to see what cash they can pick up before they go.
BA are ending 40 years of association with BRS in 2 days, our 'end of life as we know it' party is on 31Mar
If the BA Connect staff go to Servisair at Bristol, will that not mean they have a monopoly at BRS? Surely an airport the size of BRS has scope for two handling agents.
There's certainly scope, and BIA management a) are not happy about it, and b) cannot prevent another GHA coming in ( more than 2m pax p.a.), but no-one else can come in without having a contract from an airline. EZY signed for 2 years with Servisair last October, the next biggest is whatever Flybe operate from BRS, and Flybe have a global contract with Servisair. No-one is going to come in for 4 a day from Eastern.
Heard here at MAN the BE contract went out to tender and the rumour doing the rounds today is that SAS are going to be the GHA for them, but then again you know what airport rumours are like!!!
Today British Airways has completed the sale of the regional operation of its subsidiary airline BA Connect to Flybe.
BA has also confirmed that it is in exclusive talks with Aviance UK, the UK’s largest independent ground handling company, about a transfer of its ground handling operations at Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Manchester airports.
This follows an extensive review of the airline’s UK regional ground handling operation. A third party already carries out ground handling at Newcastle airport and at the majority of airports around the world on behalf of British Airways.
Ground handling at London Heathrow and London Gatwick airports is unaffected.
Staff at regional airports work for British Airways and provide ground handling for BA Connect and some other third party airlines. The sale of the regional business of BA Connect to Flybe reduces ground handling by more than 40 per cent.
If a contract is placed with Aviance UK, around 730 staff will be affected and BA has started a 90-day consultation process with their trade unions.
In the event of agreement being reached with Aviance UK, staff can choose to transfer under Transfer of Undertakings and Protection of Employment (TUPE) regulations. Alternatively, they can be redeployed within British Airways or take voluntary severance.
In addition, the sale of BA Connect means that 250 staff at Birmingham airport, that only handle BA Connect and third parties’ flights, have the option to transfer to Swissport, Flybe’s ground handling company. At Inverness, 21 staff can choose to transfer to Loganair’s ground handling company. Staff at both airports can also be redeployed within British Airways or take voluntary severance.
British Airways will continue to operate 54 return flights a day between Scotland and London and 16 return flights a day between Manchester and London.
I have worked in Customer Service for the airport in the Isle of Man for 7 years now and in that time I have gone from Manx Airlines who, if any one can remember, were brought by good old BA where we were transferred across and were all given nice new uniforms and sold the BA way only to be sold down the line 2 years later when BA decided not to self handle. BA flights were then passed onto a handling company Manx Regional who have continued to do the job for BA in a very effiicient and proffessional way giving an excellent customer service under sometimes very difficult circumstances. Now BA have sold out to Flybe and once again no one knows where their future lies as far as jobs go here with all the speculation over who will be the handling agent. But what we have at Manx Regional is a very efficient, proffessional and friendly team who have served their customers well not only the airlines who we handle but the passengers who we deal with every day. Working for an Airline like BA is not the be all and end all because at the end of the day you are a small fish in a big pool and when you are no longer needed they just cast you aside and leave someone else to pick up the pieces.
To add insult to injury Flybe have operated the BA1604 MAN-CDG for BA Connect the ground services( except checkin and boarding ) were handled by Swissport and not BA!
No answer to why BA didn't do it? Anyone have any idea?
Firstly may I say it's with saddness that all you BA staff are in the predicament you are in! for years un-fortunatley you have all been saying what a fantastic company BA is and how proud you all are of working for "The World's Favorite Airline" what RUBBISH! BA for many many years now have openly said they would rather have business and first class pax on there aircraft to HELL with us lot, we have all been trying to warn BA staff for years that the great company don't see you as loyal employee's, numbers at the end of the day!!! and when the going gets tough BA start closing down they always have and always will. In reference to 3rd party handlers like us gaining the work from you, remember we are trying to secure our future to, so un-fortunatley there's no sentiments when it comes to pinching a contract, its a dog eat dog business that we are all struggling to survive in! Lastly don't trust your so called unions because as before in the past they will sell you up the river, unions hinder nowadays not help as long as there monthly subcription is coming in they don't care about your personel lives, and thats the same for our union too! good luck to all the BA staff and hopefully it will come good for you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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