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Old 13th March 2007, 16:54   #41 (permalink)
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I Think Manchester Handling are doing the checkin/dispatch and Ringway Handling the ground

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Old 13th March 2007, 17:12   #42 (permalink)
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Eastern are a totally seperate diffrent business model from FlyBe. Why do you think they would be interested? J41's are not what flybe would want
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Old 13th March 2007, 18:21   #43 (permalink)
 
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Eastern are a diifernt business model from flybe

That may be right but they compete on almost all of Easterns routes. And Mike Rutter (flybe Chief operationg Officer) was quoted in the Aberdeen Press & Journal saying that he is specifically targeting Eastern Routes.
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Old 13th March 2007, 18:21   #44 (permalink)
 
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BA have, for at least the last 15 years, regularly gone out for quotes for ground handling at their UK regional airports (i.e. not LGW and LHR). The quotes are always for all BA GH. All the big boys have quoted numerous times.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Swissport NCL are the only GH agent handling BA mainline in the UK and this is an historical issue going back many years from the formation of NorthEast Handling with ex BA staff.
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Old 13th March 2007, 18:40   #45 (permalink)
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Only route Flybe compete with Eastern on out of ABZ is LBA.

Unless Flybe are planning an all out assault soon.
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Old 14th March 2007, 10:55   #46 (permalink)
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Is intresting idea but can't see FlyBe providing the business class service with the same schedules that Eastern provide. Eastern and FlyBe both compete IOM - BHX although BE only have one flight a day...
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Old 14th March 2007, 12:21   #47 (permalink)
 
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I thought this thread was about BA ground staff in the regions, not about who owns eastern or which routes flybe may be after or am I confused? I just hope Tesco staff don't bang on about taking over Asda or undercutting Netto I couldn't handle anymore of that.
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Old 14th March 2007, 12:41   #48 (permalink)
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Thats a point.. Started because Manx Regional handle BACON. Just have to wait and see what happens there. Good luck to the rest of you what ever you choose to do
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Old 14th March 2007, 16:52   #49 (permalink)
 
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Also Lba - Sou, Bhx-iom And A Few Others And Soon To Be Inv - Sou, Inv, Bhx And Inv - Man
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Old 14th March 2007, 23:03   #50 (permalink)
 
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Stick to the topic

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Old 15th March 2007, 14:57   #51 (permalink)
 
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Hear Hear couldn't agree more
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Old 19th March 2007, 13:12   #53 (permalink)
 
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Wednesday 21st March 2007 D-Day

Finace manager who produced figure of £850 per shuttle turn around is due to meet unions on wednesday to prove his figure correct,
word has it he is way off the mark but we will see.

I hope all stations have been doing their figures for the union reps to produce?

If BA are proved wrong and we can compete(with aviance) but they still won't budge, I hear its off to the share holders to show our case from a financial point after all BA are after making money not losing it.

Does anyone know if the money being paid to regional staff is coming of the profit already made, thus making the ERP not hit its mark for a pay out?????

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Old 20th March 2007, 00:53   #54 (permalink)
 
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Latest is the finance bloke won't be there, have BA bottled it? they know they can't prove were too expensive
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Old 21st March 2007, 12:35   #55 (permalink)
 
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Jarvis making out a business plan to BA is a good idea but a waste of time! Once BA get a plan in its head it just does it regardless! you have to except that BA want to outsource its Handling, It makes things so simple for them no dealing with unions, no department to run internally no cost to them except the agreed contract cost with the handling agent, then if things are not going as they wish, threaten said company with not renewing contract and put contract out to tender, hence they have total control over there ground handling BUT without all the hassle that goes with internal handling. Its sad but BA internal ground handling is dead .
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Old 23rd March 2007, 13:43   #56 (permalink)
 
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BHX Groundstaff

Well in BHX from Sunday until June 5th when all ground work is handed over to Swissport, the BAR groundstaff will just be boarding/arriving 5 ERJ 145's and 2 ERJ 195's so we have had to learn the Flybe Shares System and check-in is optional if we choose to learn it. Which will benefit anyone wanting to go to Flybe/Swissport.

Interesting times lie ahead and hopefully a severance agreement will be reached ASAP so we can start moving on!

Are there any other regional staff elsewhere been told whats happening to them yet?
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Old 23rd March 2007, 16:42   #57 (permalink)
 
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MAN

Well in MAN from Sunday we will no longer be handling BAConnect/Flybe Just Maniline and our 3rd party stuff plus any RJ100/146 aircraft as they are BA City flyer... All overtime has been canx....just got to get on with it with what ever staff are on duty even if there is not enough
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Old 23rd March 2007, 17:04   #58 (permalink)
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Manx Regional Boarding and meeting flights with Flight Support check-in for LGW and MAN. Flight Support running the show for BHX and SOU when it starts, sounds like it could get messy... lets hope not.
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Old 24th March 2007, 15:09   #59 (permalink)
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Last day today at BRS. Should have been a clean break, and everyone taking their redundancy packages and moving on, but for some reason we have to go in on Tue,Fri and Sat for the next 6 weeks to handle GB BRSTFS FOH only. All ex-BACON routes gone as base closed, and all the other 3rd parties now with Servisair. Anyone from GB know why we have this extended death?

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Old 24th March 2007, 15:39   #60 (permalink)
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Its probably because the notice of the ending of the ground handling contract was only given to GB on the day of the BACON/Flybe deal. Therefore the notice period has to be worked.

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