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Old 19th Jan 2005, 21:41   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question Aviance

What is happening at AVINCE.

Used to work for them with a great set of guys and Girls at EGCC.

Is all of the following true?
1/ FCA moving to Menzies at LGW.
2/ Having licence removed at CWL.
3/ MON move at MAN with possability of AF / KLM following.
4/ 3I's no longer investing on company. Must be stand alone.
Any others?

If all the above are true, what will the outcome be.
Not looking good for what was a strong and growing company.

Cheers and Up the Lions.
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Old 20th Jan 2005, 13:41   #2 (permalink)



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20-17,

Can only comment on the first part of number 3...

MON are now with Swissport, I think since November 1st 2004 or thereabouts...

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Old 21st Jan 2005, 21:27   #3 (permalink)
 
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Keep your ears open, very shortly BMI will be anouncing the move from aviance. The Xmas deicing fiasco being the final straw
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Old 22nd Jan 2005, 18:36   #4 (permalink)
 
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aviance is slowly going downhill and i think a closure of a few stations may be in the pipeline now. hardly any new bussines being won most seems to be going to servisair
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 05:25   #5 (permalink)
 
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how come? I have to say, recent experience with Aviance at LGW reflected a high standard!
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 10:37   #6 (permalink)
 
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I heard a rumour recently that Menzies were going to put in a bid!
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 15:12   #7 (permalink)
 
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Here at BHX, we have recently lost MyTravel/MyTravel Lite to Swissport (the Company pretends it was Aviance's decision - which I would find incredible - a handling agent serving notice to one of its client airlines), but we gained bmibaby

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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 15:22   #8 (permalink)
 
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What rubbish..........

Aviance is owned by Go-Ahead, which is large successful plc.

FCA are moving to Swissport at LGW, due cheaper I believe.....new kid on the block.

CWL seems to be a airport authority issue. They want a airport owned agent in.

Aviance have kept the sole licence for handling in SOU.

They have now become the handling company at BHD.

And finally, a lot of the staff are celebrating, as the £1800 they have invested in the company share scheme over 3 years, should pay out £6000......not a bad return...
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 17:30   #9 (permalink)
 
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Have they not also lost the Fly Globespan contract at Edinburgh aswell to Menzies?
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Old 28th Jan 2005, 14:09   #10 (permalink)
 
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aviance Jersey

As from 31st March Aviance Jersey Ckin, ticket sales and operations will cease leaving only the ramp
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Old 29th Jan 2005, 13:53   #11 (permalink)
 
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as to the above comment of aviance having the sole operating license at sou i can only feel sorry for the airlines flying out of there. They really have one of the worst ops departments i've dealt with!
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Old 31st Jan 2005, 21:12   #12 (permalink)
 
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I dont know about any other station but i know that aviance in glasgow is currently in a strong position and have won alot of new contracts in the past couple of years. As with regards to the comment about aviance ops being the worst that you have dealt with, i dont know what station it was but it certanilly wasnt glasgow as the guys in there are very helpful!
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Old 1st Feb 2005, 08:58   #13 (permalink)
 
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jonny 18

i've never had to deal with glasgow so im sure you and your collegues up there are very good and helpful but if you read the above posting again you will see that im talking about your not so helpful collegues in southampton!
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Old 17th Feb 2005, 00:27   #14 (permalink)
 
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good luck to u and ur department. All handling agents should stick together, afterall we all have the same job to do, i just wish some of the decent aviance departments would teach southampton how to do there jobs properly!
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Old 17th Feb 2005, 19:36   #15 (permalink)
 
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so what is it exactly that sou are so bad at and when/how often do you deal with them?
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Old 17th Feb 2005, 22:41   #16 (permalink)
 
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Surprise to me that aviance at SOU are getting stick. They were always very good in my dealings with them............ maybe it's you that has the problem PapaRomeo............ I note one of your colleagues at LHR doesn't think too highly of you in another thread?
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Old 18th Feb 2005, 15:33   #17 (permalink)
 
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Aviance sou

With regards to sou base. Their worst patch was under clc for flybe from lgw. Aparently due to a lack of dispatchers/ also a seemingly low standard of ramp staff. here are some examples. Firstly regards loadsheets/dispatch. On two separate occasions flights have come in from sou with firearms on board and no sign of any notocs or other paperwork having been given to the crew. May I point out these were flybe services where it is mandatory. On another occasion the crew queried why the hold door was still open only to be told the freight was still being loaded to which their reply was 'what freight'. It turned out the a/c was right on the tail limits for trim without the frt on the L/S, the freight weighed approx. 400kgs. You can only guess what would have happened had the crew not queried in the first place. Regards the ramp, I did hear from a reliable source that during de-icing a while ago the guy operating the machinery sprayed fluid in the APU, and attempted to do the same to the engine intakes. Those incidents aside every station regardless of the company has their problems from time to time.
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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 12:59   #18 (permalink)
 
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Aviance at LPL

I think with all the contracts going to servisair at lpl i think it wont be long until we lose Aviance along with a great bunch of lads.

Never mind lads plenty of jobs with servisair.

1st you give us your biggest contract

next you give us all your guys.

Thanks
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Old 22nd Feb 2005, 16:54   #19 (permalink)
 
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no chance

there is no way aviance at liverpool are going anywere we will just sit back and watch the summer mess you lot at servisair will get into should be really funny. would rather be on the dole than work for such a muppet company like servisair
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Old 24th Feb 2005, 06:08   #20 (permalink)
 
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Jetsream27 - Get your Facts straight!

Jetsream27

May I suggest you get your facts straight before you post replies on here - it'll make it less embarrasing for you.
Number of Ops staff to leave Aviance for Servisair LPL = 0
Number of Ops staff to leave Servisair for Aviance LPL = 9
Enough Said!
Aviance are far more professional and has a much better working environment.
What can I say?? Better Staff - Better Service to our Customer airlines.
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