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			<title><![CDATA[Chime after Takeoff Ek 777's]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:54:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Shortly after takeoff there is always a chime in the cabin on EK's 777's.
Does this indicate landing gear retracted, if so then is it why audible in...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Shortly after takeoff there is always a chime in the cabin on EK's 777's.<br />
Does this indicate landing gear retracted, if so then is it why audible in the cabin, is it to inform CC ?<br />
Or is it something else ?<br />
Cheers</div>

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			<title>Blades on planes.....are they legal??</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:30:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>A subject of much discussion of late but no actual conclusion.
 
A recent post on an unrelated thread re a diverted flight has prompted me to post...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>A subject of much discussion of late but no actual conclusion.<br />
 <br />
A recent post on an unrelated thread re a diverted flight has prompted me to post this topic however it has been the subject of much contraversy on some SLF forums to the point where I'm now :confused: as crew. This is despite the security regs I have to adhere to every day as crew <b><u>and</u></b> when I travel as SLF as well<br />
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Would appreciate definitive terms of reference to contradict my viewpoint that blades other than safety razors are not allowed on UK flights and knives AKA blades are in fact illegal.<br />
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I believe as do some SLF that blades (other than safety razors) are illegal on flights departing from the UK. My terms of reference are:<ul><li>The prevention of crime act 1953 section 1</li>
<li>The criminal justice act 1988 section 139</li>
<li>Article 77 of the air navigation orders re the commanders authority re safety. That includes instructions given by the company/DFT which he has to enforce.</li>
<li>Information given on the CAA/DFT websites re prohibited articles</li>
<li>All other info on individual company websites</li>
<li>All signage at check in desks and security channels</li>
</ul>The 2 acts above are really clear about carrying anything with a blade that could be interpreted as a weapon in a public place without good reason which the onus is on the csrrier to prove. An airport and a commercial flight is a public place.<br />
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Yes there are some exemptions to this act but the CAA/DFT/ individual carriers make it plain throughout their websites, notices at airports/questions re check in.....they do not want blades on a plane!!!<br />
 <br />
Now we still have some frequent flyers who think they are so exempt they brag openly on this forum on what they have managed/will take on planes!<br />
 <br />
Am assuming none of you think you are above the law so please give a definitive reference that it is legal to take anything resembling a blade on a departing UK plane as cabin luggage other than a safety razor.<br />
 <br />
For the avoidance of doubt checked hold baggage as the FF's will know is subject to different regs.</div>

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			<title>Direct flights to Rio?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:42:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have to fly to Rio de Janeiro in March. Just a bunch of airlines have direct flights from Europe to Rio de Janeiro. TAM and AF from Paris, TAP from...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have to fly to Rio de Janeiro in March. Just a bunch of airlines have direct flights from Europe to Rio de Janeiro. TAM and AF from Paris, TAP from Lisbon and Iberia from Madrid. In some cases, I donīt like the airline, other the fare, and other the fare. <br />
 <br />
Did I miss any airline?. Any other airline flying non stop to Rio from Europe?. I have also checked BA, but flights arenīt daily as Condor. I am sure I have missed any charter airline. <br />
 <br />
Any suggestion?</div>

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