Type rating experience question
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Hi
Can anyone tell me when adding additional type ratings to a EASA license,how much actual practical experience on the type is required.
It will be my third type rating to go on my license.
Thanks in advance
Can anyone tell me when adding additional type ratings to a EASA license,how much actual practical experience on the type is required.
It will be my third type rating to go on my license.
Thanks in advance
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Type rating experience question
...with the aim of? Sorry, but what precisely do you mean? To add the type rating, you take the course and file the paperwork (and pay the fee of course). To get a job, chasing type ratings is superfluous until you have a job.
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Sorry you didnt understand dash8,I will elaborate
I already have 2 type ratings on my EASA B1/B2 License.
I am in full time employment and have just come back from the type rating course paid for by my employer.
My question is how much practical experience will be required along with the Certs to get the type on my License and where would I find the EASA requirment in detail.
The new type is an Airbus 1,the other 2 on my license are not.
I already have 2 type ratings on my EASA B1/B2 License.
I am in full time employment and have just come back from the type rating course paid for by my employer.
My question is how much practical experience will be required along with the Certs to get the type on my License and where would I find the EASA requirment in detail.
The new type is an Airbus 1,the other 2 on my license are not.
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MB sorry you have also confused me. On the type rated part 147 approved course you should have done the practical element on that and as you already hold a type rating (irrelevent which type) you do NOT have to have further practical outside the 147 establishment.
Correct-o-mundo!
From what I gather:
- Log Books are only required for Basic Licence applications
- Pt145 OJT sheets are required with Pt147 Certs for your 1st TR Applications
- Pt147 Certs only are required with 2nd and subsequent TR Applications
From what I gather:
- Log Books are only required for Basic Licence applications
- Pt145 OJT sheets are required with Pt147 Certs for your 1st TR Applications
- Pt147 Certs only are required with 2nd and subsequent TR Applications
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OJT should be 2 weeks,but these rules are changed more often than aircraft tyres..
Annex to ED Decision 2012/004/R 19/04/2012
AMC to Paragraphs 1(b), 3.2 and 4.2 of Appendix III to Part-66 “Aircraft Type Training and Examination Standard. On-the-Job Training”
Practical element of the aircraft type training
1. The practical training may include instruction in a classroom or in simulators but part of the practical training should be conducted in a real maintenance or manufacturer environment.
2. The tasks should be selected because of their frequency, complexity, variety, safety, criticality, novelty, etc. The selected tasks should cover all the chapters described in the table contained in paragraph 3.2 of Appendix III to Part-66.
3. The duration of the practical training should ensure that the content of training required by paragraph 3.2 of Appendix III to Part-66 is completed.
Nevertheless, for aeroplanes with a MTOM equal or above 30 000 kg, the duration for the practical element of a type rating training course should not be less than two weeks unless a shorter duration meeting the objectives of the training and taking into account pedagogical aspects (maximum duration per day) is justified to the competent authority.
4. The organisation providing the practical element of the type training should provide trainees with a schedule or plan indicating the list of tasks to be performed under instruction or supervision. A record of the tasks completed should be entered into a logbook which should be designed such that each task or group of tasks may be countersigned by the designated assessor. The logbook format and its use should be clearly defined.
5. In paragraph 4.2 of Appendix III to Part-66, the term “designated assessors appropriately qualified” means that the assessors should demonstrate training and experience on the assessment process being undertaken and be authorised to do so by the organisation.
Further guidance about the assessment and the designated assessors is provided in Appendix III to AMC to Part-66.
6. The practical element (for powerplant and avionic systems) of the Type Rating Training may be subcontracted by the approved Part-147 organisation under its quality system according to the provisions of 147.A.145(d)3 and the corresponding Guidance Material.
Annex to ED Decision 2012/004/R 19/04/2012
AMC to Paragraphs 1(b), 3.2 and 4.2 of Appendix III to Part-66 “Aircraft Type Training and Examination Standard. On-the-Job Training”
Practical element of the aircraft type training
1. The practical training may include instruction in a classroom or in simulators but part of the practical training should be conducted in a real maintenance or manufacturer environment.
2. The tasks should be selected because of their frequency, complexity, variety, safety, criticality, novelty, etc. The selected tasks should cover all the chapters described in the table contained in paragraph 3.2 of Appendix III to Part-66.
3. The duration of the practical training should ensure that the content of training required by paragraph 3.2 of Appendix III to Part-66 is completed.
Nevertheless, for aeroplanes with a MTOM equal or above 30 000 kg, the duration for the practical element of a type rating training course should not be less than two weeks unless a shorter duration meeting the objectives of the training and taking into account pedagogical aspects (maximum duration per day) is justified to the competent authority.
4. The organisation providing the practical element of the type training should provide trainees with a schedule or plan indicating the list of tasks to be performed under instruction or supervision. A record of the tasks completed should be entered into a logbook which should be designed such that each task or group of tasks may be countersigned by the designated assessor. The logbook format and its use should be clearly defined.
5. In paragraph 4.2 of Appendix III to Part-66, the term “designated assessors appropriately qualified” means that the assessors should demonstrate training and experience on the assessment process being undertaken and be authorised to do so by the organisation.
Further guidance about the assessment and the designated assessors is provided in Appendix III to AMC to Part-66.
6. The practical element (for powerplant and avionic systems) of the Type Rating Training may be subcontracted by the approved Part-147 organisation under its quality system according to the provisions of 147.A.145(d)3 and the corresponding Guidance Material.
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Thanks Guys for your replies
To make things a little clearer my situation is this.
I currently have ATR 42/72 and BAE 146 on my EASA License.
I have recently completed A380 part 147 course including practcal with both engines.I am employed by an owner operator of A380s.
Given the diffrence in types,I was wondering if there is anything within EASA to stipulate that I must have actual time in the type before it goes on my License....
To make things a little clearer my situation is this.
I currently have ATR 42/72 and BAE 146 on my EASA License.
I have recently completed A380 part 147 course including practcal with both engines.I am employed by an owner operator of A380s.
Given the diffrence in types,I was wondering if there is anything within EASA to stipulate that I must have actual time in the type before it goes on my License....
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The defining point is the sub-group B1.1 to B1.1 no OJT
B1.1 to B 1.2 or vice versa then OJT requirement
This refers to Licensing only a 145 would still require some sort of OJT/Worksheet for an Authorisation if they had any credible QA Office
Did a flow chart on this but it's on the "Lappy" which I make a point of not bringing home in the week.Will try and post it tomorrow
B1.1 to B 1.2 or vice versa then OJT requirement
This refers to Licensing only a 145 would still require some sort of OJT/Worksheet for an Authorisation if they had any credible QA Office
Did a flow chart on this but it's on the "Lappy" which I make a point of not bringing home in the week.Will try and post it tomorrow