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Old 31st December 2008, 12:01   #1 (permalink)
 
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Lightbulb Apprenticeship in India

Hello everyone,

My first post on these forums although I've been frequenting it for the past couple of months just reading and learning stuff..... so happy new year to all!!

I just wanted to know where I can find apprenticeship here in India, I'm currently studying aircraft maintenance engineering specializing in avionics. And since I still have a year of college to go I am in no hurry, but starting early wouldn't hurt would it?

Enjoy your new year parties!!

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Old 2nd January 2009, 10:54   #2 (permalink)
 
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Try "Power Enhance", they operate Eurocopter AS-365 Dauphin and have recently purchased some Agusta Westland AW139. I beleive they are in Bombay. I have worked with several engineers over the years who had started their careers with this company and all have been highly skilled and top blokes.
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Old 5th January 2009, 06:41   #3 (permalink)
 
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Depending on your qualification.Currently a BAMEC can assure you an Aircraft Technician job.
It would be tough to get a job as an apprentice,without the required qualification.
But small operators would be easier.
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Old 7th January 2009, 15:33   #4 (permalink)
 
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Thanks chopperpilot and hawk21!

I tried googling out 'power enhance' but it didn't turn up any relevant results so could you please share their contact details that would be really helpful.

Hmm... like I said I've still got some time to spend in the institute so I'm just weighing out my options and 'planning ahead' so to speak. As regards my qualifications I'll be acquiring my first BAMEL in Feb'09 session. It is only around that time that I'd like to start out with my apprenticeship. Hey, Hawk21 could you please tell me more about techinicians' work... as in how does it differ from apprenticeships (I hope my questions aren't stupid... lol) and whom to contact.

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Old 11th January 2009, 09:19   #5 (permalink)
 
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Aircraft technicians are unlicenced maintenance personell.They perform work on aircraft under the supervision of an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer [AME].
They are full time employees of an organisation in most cases.

Aircraft Technicians with passing of required exams can become AMEs.

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Old 11th January 2009, 10:14   #6 (permalink)
 
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Okay... thanks I get it now.
So I believe that I could go either way by taking up an apprenticeship or working as a technician. So how does one proceed from being a technician to becoming an AME assuming that I have a BAMEL when I join as a technician? What exams should one take (I guess that would be Paper IV)

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Edit: It would be nice if I could get some contacts of firms looking for technicians/apprentices.
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Old 11th January 2009, 13:24   #7 (permalink)
 
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Sorry Pal, I got the name wrong. The correct name is "Pawan Hans". However it does sound like "power enhance" when an Indian chap says it to you. Sorry about the confusion, google that name and you will get a good result. Good luck.
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Old 11th January 2009, 13:30   #8 (permalink)
 
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Don't forget, it's not too late to become a pilot!
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Old 12th January 2009, 09:07   #9 (permalink)
 
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After clearing BAMEL in catergories HA/JE/LA/PE,one can pass paper 4 or after joining up in an airline attend approved type training by the company.
On completion & clearing of orals/practicals by Regulatory authority.licence can be endorsed as AME.
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Old 14th January 2009, 09:40   #10 (permalink)
 
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After clearing BAMEL in catergories HA/JE/LA/PE
Err....I'm going in for RN, so I guess I'll have to clear all the three papers for the complete avionics stream, is it so? And would they forward my application for Paper 4 if I dont have a relative in the airline; I ask that 'cuz that is unfortunately that's what I've heard.

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Don't forget, it's not too late to become a pilot!
Haha.. Yes buddy thanks for reminding me that's the "bigger picture" anyway, but I'm kind of lost setting up the foundation itself!


Edit: Corrected typos.
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Old 16th January 2009, 16:39   #11 (permalink)
 
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True.
for BAMEL in Cat R, you need Paper 1,2 & 3[R].
check CAR Series L for details on Directorate General of Civil Aviation
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Old 16th January 2009, 16:56   #12 (permalink)
 
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I'll have to clear all the three papers for the complete avionics stream
By that I meant 3 Paper III's i.e. ES, IS and RN.

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check CAR Series L for details on Directorate General of Civil Aviation
I just cleared my Paper I, so that is still fresh in my mind . Just that I'm a bit confused as to how it works out in the "real world".
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Old 29th January 2009, 16:47   #13 (permalink)
 
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Trust me....Out here minimum qualification to get a good job is a BAMEC in HA/JE or E/R/I.
It might require you working as a Aircraft tech for sometime too,before getting an approved course.
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Old 30th January 2009, 18:19   #14 (permalink)
 
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It might require you working as a Aircraft tech for sometime too,before getting an approved course.
Well, no matter how long it takes, how hard I've got to work... that is something I really want to achieve. It is just that I'm looking for footholds in this unknown territory..... thanks man, you've been of a lot of help.

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Old 2nd February 2009, 14:32   #15 (permalink)
 
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Talking

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The correct name is "Pawan Hans". However it does sound like "power enhance" when an Indian chap says it to you.
lol. reminds me of my indian friend.

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Well, no matter how long it takes, how hard I've got to work... that is something I really want to achieve. It is just that I'm looking for footholds in this unknown territory
That's the spirit!! Just finished my apprenticeship last yr. from Lufthansa Technik Philippines and luckily I got selected in their Maintenance Training Program (MTP) which will start this April. I'm also one of those hopeful Mechanics who wants to settle in a good company. Just never lose hope because you've selected the best career in the world. and oh, having a license is your best ticket in this field. Just got mine!
Goodluck on your endeavor!
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Old 3rd February 2009, 20:41   #16 (permalink)
 
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Be Humble to ask questions & be ready to help a collegue in answering his queries.
Aviation Mx is a small team in this world & there are good & bad apples out here.
You need to filter out the bad ones.

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Old 5th February 2009, 14:35   #17 (permalink)
 
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Be Humble to ask questions & be ready to help a collegue in answering his queries.
Just the reason I'm here on PPRuNe, to learn and to contribute And congrats airfoil, you're well on your way all the best!
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Old 5th February 2009, 14:47   #18 (permalink)
 
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Thanks superliner hope you'll find a good company to put your skills on hand.
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Old 24th February 2009, 23:02   #19 (permalink)
 
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Times are currently tough regarding jobs.concentrate on clearing your BAMEL papers thats the Key.
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Old 25th February 2009, 17:21   #20 (permalink)
 
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concentrate on clearing your BAMEL papers thats the Key
Yes! I am pretty confident that I'll be able to do that, it is only when I think beyond that I start getting anxious....
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