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Old 8th October 2008, 21:29   #1 (permalink)
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AeroTropics Ceases Operations

Aero Tropics Air Services ceased operations yesterday. RL was unable to withstand the financial losses of no income while waiting the 5 working days to overturn the AOC suspension imposed last Friday. With long weekends that meant nearly two weeks before getting to court, a fact no doubt evident to CASA when they issued the order.

The role of CASA NQ FOI's RP and MC having continued involvement in ATAS affairs while the under investigation by CASA (yeah right) for 'serious allegations relating to its NQ office' (senate report) needs to be looked at.

Torres Strait operations virtually cease. Regional Pac earlier announced it was pulling out of the Straits. School holidays finish this week. Hospital charters and medical flights stopped. The Qlink Dash 8 running nearly empty.

When will it dawn on the brain dead authorities that airline style RPT services in remote areas with class A maintenance requirements can't be supported when Charter in clapped out Bongo's with Class B maintenance is allowed to directly compete over the same routes every day.

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Old 8th October 2008, 23:45   #2 (permalink)
 
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So with Skytrans selling off all its piston fleet and effectively out of the game, and Troppo's gone...... who is left? Hinterland (and they are down 1 as of last week) and who else to pick up the slack?

I guess Toyota and Nissan will not be discounting 4WD's up north for a while!

If Jamair is around he may be able to shed some light on the regions woes.

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Old 8th October 2008, 23:53   #3 (permalink)
 
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Or is it more a rationalisation of operators, enabling growth and reasonable return on investment in the future?
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Old 9th October 2008, 00:10   #4 (permalink)
 
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Or is it more a rationalisation of operators, enabling growth and reasonable return on investment in the future?
probably not when operator demise is externally and artificially imposed by CASA

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Old 9th October 2008, 00:20   #5 (permalink)
 
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Maybe it's time to start up a Caravan RPT service around the Islands?

Maybe have an Eastern and a Western run!
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Old 9th October 2008, 00:43   #6 (permalink)
 
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ATAS were operating Caravans in RPT !

CASA chose to suspend the AOC rather than the pilot who was involved in the incident that brought it on. Pure Politics.
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Old 9th October 2008, 00:45   #7 (permalink)
 
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Virgindriver

That is exactly what I was thinking, if you had a couple or 3 C208B's in a pax config...(or maybe just the jump plane config) that would be the best all round solution.

Of course the not twin/not going crowd would disagree.

Have no idea about the economics of the idea though....

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Old 9th October 2008, 01:00   #8 (permalink)
 
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Wink pacific flyer

I believe it is good news for the Boys at aerotropics,with a new operator starting hopefully next week.Fresh start and hopefully full employment if wanted by the pilots.I believe CASA has approved this as of today.Good luck to all of you at this uncertain time
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Old 9th October 2008, 03:15   #9 (permalink)
 
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Maybe it's time to start up a Caravan RPT service around the Islands?
Great idea virgindriver!!!
They might need to clear that landing area on the beach at Badu though, it probably hasn't been used for a while.
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Old 9th October 2008, 04:17   #10 (permalink)
 
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Ah, yes. The Badu Island scenic and idylic beach front Caravan park!

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"...with a new operator starting hopefully next week."
Wingz North, Coral Sea Air, Aero Tropics (did I miss any...?) - is the Phoenix to rise yet again?

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Old 9th October 2008, 04:20   #11 (permalink)
 
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I believe it is good news for the Boys at aerotropics,with a new operator starting hopefully next week.Fresh start and hopefully full employment if wanted by the pilots.I believe CASA has approved this as of today.Good luck to all of you at this uncertain time
Maybe I am too cynical............. but does this comment suggest something corrupt is going on??? Or is it just good and coincidental???

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Old 9th October 2008, 04:52   #12 (permalink)
 
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let me guess all the aircraft regos that will be used or at least most of them. First post and all.
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Old 9th October 2008, 04:55   #13 (permalink)
 
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They might need to clear that landing area on the beach at Badu though, it probably hasn't been used for a while
Maybe while they are at it- the overrun at Murray could use some clearing...
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Old 9th October 2008, 05:00   #14 (permalink)
 
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Nah couldn't be corruption. It only took two days to get approval for another operator. It only took 30 days for CASA to issue Check approval to the new CP so he could get on with fixing the company. Oh yeh they suspended the AOC 2 days later citing shortcomings in the training, supervision and skills of pilots. Nah couldn't possibly be corruption!
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Old 9th October 2008, 05:16   #15 (permalink)
 
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The latest i heard was that Barrier Aviation is taking over.
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Old 9th October 2008, 06:05   #16 (permalink)
 
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yeah coco you forgot UZU . . . Or did you forget.
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UZU, Cape York Air.
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Barrier Aviation

Isn't Barrier Aviation owned by an ex CASA FOI? Hasn't said ex FOI had several other company's go broke? Who remembers Cairns Jet Centre?

Interesting!!!
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Old 9th October 2008, 06:58   #19 (permalink)
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Geeee if thats the case, it should be a 4Corners story.

GA in FNQ is quite a thing!

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