In my short aviation career so far, i have seen what is explained below twice....
A pilot accepts a senior position within a company in a 'remote' location, and then at the last minute (ie.. as they get to location, or are about to get on an aircraft to location) says "F#$k this, what am i doing, i can do better than this"..
On one hand some may say they can see the point. This pilot has a fair bit of experience, and although they haven't been able to find a job for a considerable ammount of time, they think they can do better.
ON THE OTHER HAND!.....maybe he should of looked where _______________ was before he decided to accept the position, instead of wasting peoples time and money, and possibly leaving the company unable to operate in the coming weeks unless a replacement is found.
Anyway, whinge over.
Anybody looking for a CP job, and isn't going to be a big girls blouse about being in a remote location (which isn't really that bad) please PM me.
cheers giddy
Ps.... The other time i mentioned the pilot stayed for a few weeks until a replacement was found.
But how remote is remote? and any other details about the position, to encourage applications from the right type of people, would help I would imagine.
Good luck Giddy Up! Some people don't know what they're missing...
I grew up in Port Hedland W.A., one of the ugliest towns in the world, and I wouldn't have given that up for quids.
I also worked at some of the mining camps around the Pilbara.
The people are generally pretty sociable (read: party animals), the landscape is sensational (outside of the town), the nurses hospitable.
I will never forget sitting in the back of a Toyota "troopie" with a couple of beers, watching some of the most awe inspiring weather sneak across the desert at night time, lightning smacking down into the occassional tree, setting it alight, and the overpowering smell of the first rain to hit the ground in eleven months.
Crystal clear skies, more stars than Hollywood, and a horizon which seems to end somewhere over near Buenos Aires.
Add to that the ability to plan a barbie fifty years ahead, and have better than fair odds of it being a sunny day.
If you are still looking in a year or two, I should have my CPL by then, drop me a line. I'd be honoured.
You will learn piloting and social skills that will underpin you career for your lifetime.
Be warned though, some have gone there and stayed, period.
I still miss the landscape and that awesome weather.
You haven't lived until you've shared a slab on a Saturday arvo with your mates watching those 60,000ft CBs build from nothing to awesome, spend their energy and then just drift away, grumbling quietly to themselves.
As a boy, my Dad took my flying many times around the Pilbara, the Kimberleys, and all over the West. All over the world, as it happens.
It's fond memories of flying with my Dad in those areas which have prompted me to put my money where my mouth is, and shell out for flying lessons.
Just a shame I'm in Melbourne now, and not somewhere further north of the Antarctic...
And I can't overstate the beauty and power of the weather. You can feel it building on your skin. You can smell it. And all the colours seem to be that much more brilliant.
do you really think the reason the person didnt accept the position was because they didint look at a map and see where---------- was?
Im sure they knew where ------------- was before they accepted the position.
The problem with accepting a remote position it is often hard to get a good idea of what your getting yourself into til you get there. If you get there and change your mind because it it a remote location what you are saying is fair enough. You already should know what ------------ is going to be like and have already accepted you will be in a remote location and all the #%! that goes with it!
However, when accepting a managerial position in aviation in a remote location it is often hard to get a good understanding of the company before you get there, maybe that is why they choose not to accept the position? Maybe they didnt like what they saw of the company and didnt want to have their name as the head of that organisation?
What is the real reason this person did not accept the position? There must be more to it?
Spent Five years in outback W.A. mines saving to learn to fly. Now I'm all misty eyed and emotional!! Magic place, magic people magic memories (even if somwhat blurred in places! ) In the word's of big Arnie I'LL BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey giddy up, don't know about the CPs you have hired, but it's not the CP you need to attract. It's the CP's family, or partner, or whatever. They are usually the final decision-makers. The partners are the ones who have to remain in the location and if they don't get a good first impression, forget the CP staying.
I just always seem to be picking up remote work.... Kimberly region, West of Cobar (about 1 1/2 hours C182 flying west), flying off 12-18 cattle stations through Queensland and northern NSW, and now mmmm that jewel in the desert going by the name of Tennant Creek... pubs good anyhow...
I daresay a single person, bit of time and maturity up their sleeves, some tropics / community time accrued and looking for that last time remote experience would jump at the chance.
Northern Chique, I remember the days when I'd get "excited" about a trip to Tennant. Thinking I was going into the "big smoke".
Wow running water...wow a supermarket!..oh what?..a newsagent . "Now I'm kicking arse" I'd say to myself.
How sad is that!
Giddy, I don't think remote experience has the value it once had. 500 command in a 152 in the circuit'll get you into Australias largest airline. Why bother with the bush....
I think thats what you are up against.
If QF changed their minimums to align with VB you'd see some changes and some soiled undies. I say you'll go anywhere if you really want it. But then again I can understand people who have been around the block and are getting a gutful of drinking bore water and swallowing flies.
Before I arrived in the "bush" there was much talk about the worthiness of bush pilots. QF should have a closer look at pilots who have spent time in the middle of no where. Great skills, proactive attitudes, (and bloody good drinkers when req'd!)
Mr Hat, the supermarket at YTNK has gone down hill big time now, every one in town gets a bush order from Alice S.
Fantastic stuff. There are operators that like employing staff from remote areas, namely the northwest because basically people learn to think by themselves. I'm not saying that drivers become 'inventive', but they certainly learn how to survive and think outside the box. I mean sometimes you had to to survive!
Touch and gos at YMMB for 500 hours certainly does not maketh the driver.
I have just got back from a trip to some of these places looking for work to anyone that gave some advice to a low time pilot thank you, unfortunatly i have not got a job yet, don't worry i'm repacking my bag for round 2 so if you see someone in the near future who looks a little lost he is always willing to listen to advice and to those that i met in round 1 cheers.
I'm still spitting flys but i won't let the little @#$% stop me