W-10 unexpected update

[BEagle]

Talking to a Yank at a lunch last year, he told me that he worked in Seattle. "Boeing?", I asked. "No, Microsoft", he replied. "Well, I guess that explains your beard", I commented. "What do you mean?", he queried. "I mean that you don't have to look yourself in the face in your mirror every morning. All bloody Microsoft have done in the last couple of years is to get rid of popular applications and Office tools and foist the wretchedness of Windows 8, 8.1 and now Windows 10 on your loyal customers. PLEASE JUST LEAVE US ALONE!!"

[Loose rivets]

Awwwww . . . I hate seeing men with beards cry.


Tonight I fired up the HP mentioned in my new thread and noticed it had got the Windows 10 white window (in the taskbar bit at the right I can never remember the name of) If they'd call it the Annunciator Box I'd get it every time.

Anyway, I ran Steve Gibson's program again and his screen turned green okay. However, it took a reboot before the Windows thing disappeared.

It'll be interesting to see if I get a single Windows upgrade (1 of 1) like the Vaio.

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[reynoldsno1]

Just (successfully) reinstalled W7 as per the Microsoft "promise" - no doubt W10 is still lurking somewhere... Only noticeable issue was having to reconnect to my wifi ...

[Fareastdriver]

I had been crossing off the upgrade but a few days ago it started to upgrade without my sayso, admittedly after it had warned me with an intermittent countdown. I pulled the plug on it, literally, and I started it again on W7 and is has not tried it again.

I tried

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm From Steve Gibson of Spinrite fame. He codes in assembler.

and it cleared the flag after a restart.

I feel that my W7 is now running a lot faster without 9 gigs of W10 lurking in the background.

[Loose rivets]

Mmm . . . I'm sweating on the Rivetess' HP and its post-Steve Gibson update.

It's been running for hours whereas my Vaio 1 of 1 took a moment or two, though it has to be said this HP has not been updated since before Christmas.

I've had this before in the past and just scrapped it. The next try lasted minutes. However, I'm wondering if they're looking into any computer that runs Never 10. Yep, still paranoid.


Just a thought. This update was invited from the taskbar icon. Also, it seems to be installing as it goes - I'm running Task manager and looking at CPU DISK and NETWORK. Actual download files are not that great and the busy part is the CPU. I've probably seen explorer.exe go past a dozen times, and that's when I happen to be looking.

I could have downloaded the entire OS in much less time.


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[Loose rivets]

It finished at 19:30!!!! Says I'm up to date. Well, it should be - it took all day.

However, all is not as it should be.


First thing. Ccleaner 64bit new install, doesn't work. Remind you of anything? This is W7, but could MS really want to kill Ccleaner or is it coincidence?

Second. FF Bookmarks are all akilter. Totally not where I left them.

It'll take some time to see if it's a working proposition.

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[Loose rivets]

Relevance of these posts is that it all happened after "Never 10". May be no connection at all.



EDIT Mistake corrected above. It was Ccleaner and not FF that I suspected MS of sabotaging. In a way they did, because when Ccleaner finally working it took half an hour to clean 3.5 Gb of stuff - which I suppose is why the Run Cleaner button was greyed out for so long.

I have no idea what MS are playing at.

[FlightDetent]

The 3,5 GBs: was it before or after you had run the OS standard Disk Clean with adminitstrator priviledges, removing all backups?

[Loose rivets]

(Gulp) I kind of rely on Ccleaner for everything. It's worked well, but that was before this self imposed era of learning.

What I don't know is if Windows (7) had finished with all the stuff I zapped, cos this morning it has presented me with another 50Mb update. I'm going with the flow and letting it happen, but whatever it does, it seems to do it very slowly. Nowhere does it show progress. Well, 0 and 0 complete. Suddenly it did show Complete. Oh, yesterday it was ONE update - 7 hours of it.

This time, I'll give it a while to settle down and then do what you suggest/hint at, before Ccleaner.

Pity. Late last night it was running really well. I almost loaded Office - which I don't want to do until I've got stable foundations.

It's plain I'll never catch up. There's too much to know these days and on an hourly basis I'm being flummoxed. Only being an old bloke with too much time on my hands allows this messing about, though I am supposed to be writing a sequel to my book.

[FlightDetent]

It's rather simple. CCleaner used ==>> OS damaged beyond repair. Reinstall if it is stable foundation you want.

Not always, but about 75% cases it's like that. What are the odds, that you are the lucky 1 out od four

[Loose rivets]

One is hauling furniture most of the day, but what are you saying? Ccleaner in this one specific scenario or not a safe product generally?

The darn thing is still downloading, so I guess I somehow undid all the download of yesterday. But again, I could reload from 'new' but unfortunately I'd have to use the copy of the upgrade from Vista, which is quite old. It has to have the key that came with that purchase and I'm never sure it's going to be okay with all that MS is doing these days. Last time was only a month ago, and it's authenticated and the SP1 download all done. However, I find it so odd that all that could be done in far less time than the 'upgrade' that's happening now.

None of these things used to happen.

[Loose rivets]

Bewilderingly, it again spent several hours doing one file. 0 out of 0 showing until it said reboot.

Almost right away, it invited me to download updates. Aaaaaaagh!

Again, the relevance to this thread. Is this bizarre behaviour due to running Never 10? It seems like some grotesque punishment for my disobedience.

I started the third update procedure. But this time a ray of hope. A normal green barometer and reported progress. Soon it was done and unlike last time, seems to be functioning at a reasonable speed.

Can I ask, all this detritus that's left behind - is it, A/ Normal and B/Is one expected to clean it up or would the system have done so had I not been so quick with Ccleaner?

I'm not going to do anything with it until I know more technical details.

Ccleaner. Has opinion changed about this utility? I do stress I only use it for unwanted things - mostly .tmp files and profiles. I don't know enough to let it get to the registry. It also has a very good duplicates sort.

[FullOppositeRudder]

We are not alone .....

https://www.facebook.com/topic/Windo...89189664555270

[Loose rivets]

I prefer testing Chromebooks. They ship out as slim as possible, boot in seconds, and work reliably. It takes a good hour or more to get a brand new Windows 10 laptop into a usable state after tweaking the interface settings, connecting to Wi-Fi, uninstalling the apps I won’t ever use, disabling some of the notifications . . .

Bloat, and more bloat. For years people have wanted to start with a lean OS and add what they want.

Back to work for a while.

[pulse1]

So far I have managed to thwart attempts to upgrade my Windows 7. However, this morning I keep getting windows that tell me to restart my computer to complete updates. So far I have restarted my computer twice and it is now asking me to do it again.

Is this another more subtle way of driving me into the W10 fold?

[FullOppositeRudder]

I went through that exercise with my two W7 machines earlier in the week. Never10 has been invoked on them both in addition to earlier management changes designed to keep the systems free from changes which I don't want - and offer nothing but potential trouble.

However I'm nervous. I don't trust them (M'$oft) at all; I really don't.

FOR

[Loose rivets]

Is this bizarre behaviour due to running Never 10? It seems like some grotesque punishment for my disobedience.

To quote me.


I'm wondering what's going on as I'm now installing 'Net Framework 4 6 1.'

Yes, I gave it permission to press on with this download, just to see where this is all going. Remember, the Rivetess' answer was to turn off updates despite my protests, and her computer wasn't used since before Christmas. But, the download time has been about what I'd expect to write the code, not just send it to me.

Anyway, I'll continue to play this game until a big face comes on the screen and tells me Steve Gibson is on the naughty cushion - and I'm on W10 . . . with no drivers.

[The Flying Pram]

MS are getting even more desperate:

Code:

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2016/06/01/windows_10_nagware_no_way_out/

And for those who are unhappy about installing GWX Control Panel, you don't have to. The standalone version can be found here:

Code:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/GWX_control_panel.exe

Run it from a pendrive if you want, hence there's no need to have it on your PC, and no chance that MS will try and delete it. It's regularly updated, so check for the latest version and re-run it to be sure.

[MG23]

So, I'm now sitting here trying to figure out how to prevent a work laptop from installing Windows 10, since some of the software doesn't work on any OS past Windows 7.

Anyone know who at Microsoft I can charge my time to?

[Fareastdriver]

I haven't had any problems at all since running Steve Gibson's never 10. My W7 pro is as smooth as silk.