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BOAC I am on Orange/EE. The time on my mobile telephone is not the same as the pips on BBC R4. The network time seems to be about 60-90 seconds behind the BBC which I have always assumed is what is used to set atomic clocks.
so what does it synch to? if its the internet mail servers over G3, then the phone is bound to be incorrect due to the natual latency of the internet if its a time signal sent over the phone network, then again you've got latency compared with a direct radio link
best way - if it can be done - would be to synch the phone to the GPS network time signals
Gawdstrewth, we are making a fuss about this! My Nokia phone on EE or whateverthey'recallingitthisweek has an option: 'Automatically update time - yes/ no/ ask first.'
It would almost be nice to know that the time shown on the default display is synchronised automatically. But whatever option I choose in the above choice, absolutely nothing happens, and I have to update the time myself. Big Deal!
(Except as in my 2 previous P*sts in this thread.)
I would be interested if you could experiment? Reset the phone to, say, 15 minutes adrift from 'real' time. 3/4G off. Reset auto update and let us know what happens. Remember a stopped 12 hr clock is right twice a day.
As others are finding, moving into other time zones (presumably where the network has absorbed NITZ) does produce an update. return to the UK does not.
EDIT: I am not sure what an 'EE' mobile contract is? Do I assume you have a 4G contract? We are talking 2/3G and I think the network is still T-M/Orange, not 'EE'.
Are you still using the Samsung Apollo? Mine used to be flakey with time updates. As you say, go abroad and it did change, but back in the UK it did not always change times. That's on Vodafone. Apollo now fall back phone as I have inherited a hand me down from younger daughter. Still Samsung, a Galaxy 1, but time adjustment is OK.
Yes, AO, that (the Apollo) may be the problem, but looking at that forum quote on T-M/OR and NTIZ plus the 'failure' with a Nokia phone I remain unconvinced and several have highlighted T-M/OR in this thread. Interested to hear from other T-M/OR/EE users (inc mike-wsm......?)
Your post #8 and #25 don't really match? #8 suggests again that OR is the problem. 90 seconds is roughly 90 too long. Which network is the Galaxy on - Voda?
too many blooming phones around, that's why #8 and #25 are not obviously OK. SWMBO now has a Samsung Ace on EE which seems fine. Daughter and I have galaxies on Voda which do the 90 sec thing Parked is the Apollo which was erratic when I used it......
The time on my mobile telephone is not the same as the pips on BBC R4. The network time seems to be about 60-90 seconds behind the BBC which I have always assumed is what is used to set atomic clocks.
Not sure if you really think the atomic clocks run to the BBC R4 pips or not but amusing if you do......
Interesting thing is if you try listenting to Radio 4 on a FM radio, a DAB radio and then say over cable/satellite - you will find that they are all out of sync with each other by a few seconds (not as much as 90 tho) and FM will be the one ahead - this is all due to the time taken to transcode the signal, broadcast and then decode the signal - with better equipment the delay will be less but for something such as satellite you still will have the transmission delay up to and down from the satellite on top of the digital/analogue conversions.
On a DAB radio usually you will get the time source on the radio picked up from the transmitters - if you listen to radio 4 and watch the time tick over and listen to the pips you will probably find the radio does it before R4.
Sorry no real input on your issue BOAC - just amused at atomic clocks being set by the pips from BBC, bought a smile to me at the end of an otherwise dull day....