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Old 1st May 2012, 10:14   #1 (permalink)

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PC for TV

I am interested in getting a Windows pc in the lounge to download internet TV. Obviously I would prefer not to have a fan buzzing away.

At the present time I have been using my 3 year old netbook but it is clearly inadequate for the job as its graphics and RAM aren't up to speed.

Any suggestions as to what I can get to do the job at a reasonable price; I don't need a monitor?
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Old 1st May 2012, 13:21   #2 (permalink)
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A nice cheap, reliable Linux box?
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Old 1st May 2012, 14:54   #3 (permalink)
 
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Sounds like you need an HTPC. There's an entire thread on building those here.
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Old 1st May 2012, 15:33   #4 (permalink)
 
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just internet TV? Or any TV?
If just the internet almost any PC with fast enough graphics and a big drive would do. The network connection is really the limiting factor
Or do you intend to use tuners as well? If so, satellite or terrestrial?
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Old 1st May 2012, 16:06   #5 (permalink)

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I am looking to download Internet TV onto my TV in the lounge and get a decent picture. With the netbook the picture keeps buffering and breaking up when ther is fast movement.

I presume that a decent graphics card and memory is a must.
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Old 1st May 2012, 16:18   #6 (permalink)
 
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"the picture keeps buffering and breaking up"

Thats more likely to be network speed issues
How do you connect to the internet? How fast is the broadband feed and how fast is your local network? Wireless or wired?

Can you output a video file from your hard drive without buffering? If so then the problem really is with the network
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Old 1st May 2012, 19:42   #7 (permalink)
 
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Alternatively, if you only want internet TV then just buy the Acer Revo and get a better internet connection.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 10:43   #8 (permalink)

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Milo,

The issue shouldn't be internet speed as I am with Virgin on fibre with 10mb.
My feeling is that it is more to do with the graphics card on a cheap netbooks processor.
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The issue shouldn't be internet speed as I am with Virgin on fibre with 10mb.
Yes, but do you run a cable from the virgin router to your netbook or do you use wireless to connect?
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Old 2nd May 2012, 17:29   #10 (permalink)
 
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Milo,

The issue shouldn't be internet speed as I am with Virgin on fibre with 10mb.
My feeling is that it is more to do with the graphics card on a cheap netbooks processor.
Frankly, "Virgin Fibre with 10mb" means diddly squat when you don't know the entire route the data is taking to get to your laptop. For instance, the person providing the uplink of data might just be on a broadband link shared with their family, etc.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 20:57   #11 (permalink)
 
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Saw a box on sale in LeRoy Merlin (F) last week which plugs into your TV (SCART or HDMI) and connects via wifi to the internet. Box contains a hard drive, runs on Android and once set up you can download films and everything else off the internet and play them on the TV. No need for a local PC, you can even set your router up over the box.

If everyone else knows about this already don't flame me !

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Old 2nd May 2012, 21:49   #12 (permalink)
 
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"The issue shouldn't be internet speed as I am with Virgin on fibre with 10mb. "

So what? Whats the bitrate and definition of the files you are trying to stream?
And what else is running on the local network? Whats the source of these 'net TV channels. Most of the ones I've seen have been severely bandwidth restricted, often using peer-to-peer networks

You don't need much in the way of hardware to stream video. We could do it 12 years ago using 8Mb ATi Rage Pro chips and AMD K6-II CPUs. The processing power of even a basic modern machine such as a Notepad with Intel Atom guts is far more powerful than that.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 08:50   #13 (permalink)

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I am downloading sky go to my second TV (as my wife doesn't football) using the Notebook. I have an 30m ethernet cable between my study where my virgin media Netware gateway comes in to a Linksys WRT160N in the bedroom where there is a decent TV. I then have taken a 2m ethernet from that to the notebook outputting the notebook via a monitor cable to the TV.

I have done a speedtest on the notebook in the location and got 9.26 Mnps download and .98 Mnps upload. I have a smartphone in the house that is connected by the WRTWiFi but isn't used at the time.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 10:23   #14 (permalink)
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I am with Virgin on fibre with 10mb.
- Hmm! If all you get is 10mb on 'fibre' ....................................I suspect you are on ADSL2+ or similar via BT./Unbundled in which case you would be 'sharing' your data download with others around you.? I would complain if you are paying for a '50 or 100mb' or so connection.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 16:28   #15 (permalink)

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No, I'm definitely on fibre that's all I pay for at the present, they are upgrading to 20Mnps in June. Unlike others you get the download speed that you pay for with Virgin.

I won't tell you what I pay for the package otherwise you will get jealous.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:03   #16 (permalink)
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Well, sky in my opinion, if you are 'paying' for fibre you are being ripped off!
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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:21   #17 (permalink)

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Virgin's 10Mb service that's being upgraded to 20Mb is most likely cable (co-ax). It's certainly not ADSL, and unlikely to be fibre-optic to the house.

Our Virgin cable domestic service has recently been upgraded to 20Mb from 10, and I'm getting 17-19Mb on one wired PC and one wifi PC, but 2 wifi PCs further from the WAP are getting between 8 and 12Mb (802.11g). One was only getting 2-4 until I replaced the antenna on the NIC with an external antenna further from the PC.

Wireless throughput does drop off rapidly as signal strength decreases.

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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:44   #18 (permalink)
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Yes, I was thinking co-ax too. Out of interest, what is the expected top speed on co-ax?

PS Chi is on BT's list for NGA (not sure whether to congratulate or commiserate )
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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:55   #19 (permalink)

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No it's not fibre optic to the house it's fibre optic in the street and the usual telephone wire to the house.
But then I'm only paying £29 for broadband, line rental and unlimited phone calls 24/7 other than 0870 and 0845 and I can get around that. I could pay more but frankly don't need it.

Now why is Sky Go buffering and not particularly good; any thoughts?
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Old 3rd May 2012, 18:01   #20 (permalink)
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Yup - you are being ripped off! £20.48 + Vat here for the same package 'up to 24mb'.
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