Microsoft/Windows 7 rant rant rant
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Microsoft/Windows 7 rant rant rant
By no means the first time, but I have (in common with many Googlers) continual 'successful' installs of 3 KBs Win7 updates for .Net Framework that are not installed and keep on returning. On the previous 3 occasions, 'repair' .net as per instructions worked. This time it has not.
So, I go to get help from M$. Hah! Legit Win7Pro, activated, under a year old and I want to ask what to do. They want $46 to 'help me'. That is ludicrous. Anyone got any other ways to get an answer? No wonder they are universally despised.
So, I go to get help from M$. Hah! Legit Win7Pro, activated, under a year old and I want to ask what to do. They want $46 to 'help me'. That is ludicrous. Anyone got any other ways to get an answer? No wonder they are universally despised.
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3 updates to .net in total, 2 shown here.
Windows update is repeatedly offering Windows update Microsoft - Microsoft Answers
No error messages.
Windows update is repeatedly offering Windows update Microsoft - Microsoft Answers
No error messages.
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as posted previously, if you have any MS update issues, stop the Windows Update (or Automatic Updates) service, delete the c
windows\software distribution folder, and restart the update service.
windows\software distribution folder, and restart the update service.
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a broken product?
It may be something local to your PC rather than anything to do with Windows, software incompatibilities for example (or your antivirus getting in the way perhaps).
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What - you mean all the other folk with the same problem too? Oh - forgot to mention AV and firewall off too. It appears they have a bunch of incompetents issuing these .net updates. I call that 'broken' - what do you call it?
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try this
Quick fix for .NET Framework 4 update glitch | How To - CNET
If that still fails then its time to download the latest version of the ..NET cleanup tool, nuke .NET and reisntall
Quick fix for .NET Framework 4 update glitch | How To - CNET
If that still fails then its time to download the latest version of the ..NET cleanup tool, nuke .NET and reisntall
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Saw that, Milo, thanks - I had to do that the last two times .net updates failed to register. A little drastic, I feel. See 'broken'?.
As you can see from post 1 I have been partway down the road, but the reason for trying to get help 'Help' from this tits-up organisation called M$ was to try and find WHY this was happening. Should one have to pay $46 to fix a broken product? Is there NO proper support for a purchase?
As you can see from post 1 I have been partway down the road, but the reason for trying to get help 'Help' from this tits-up organisation called M$ was to try and find WHY this was happening. Should one have to pay $46 to fix a broken product? Is there NO proper support for a purchase?
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BOAC
One must remember (read the small print) software (ms) is not covered by UK Trading Standards Law. There are 'get out' clauses when the original product e.g..laptop is purchased. OS do not come under the guarantee. Only the hardware is covered.
Having said that, if one purchases a flight sim from a major supplier (packaged product) then yes one has the recourse to return it to the retailer for a refund/exchange.
The trouble with OS/M$ is that people do not read the 'terms and conditions' before hitting the 'install' key.
Daz
One must remember (read the small print) software (ms) is not covered by UK Trading Standards Law. There are 'get out' clauses when the original product e.g..laptop is purchased. OS do not come under the guarantee. Only the hardware is covered.
Having said that, if one purchases a flight sim from a major supplier (packaged product) then yes one has the recourse to return it to the retailer for a refund/exchange.
The trouble with OS/M$ is that people do not read the 'terms and conditions' before hitting the 'install' key.
Daz
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If you have an machine preloaded with an OEM copy of Windows, then Microsoft devolve support to the company who provided the PC - and the copy of Windows
If you had a retail copy of Windows, then the support requirement lies with M$, though often they choose to ignore that fact.
If that patch won't work then go to this site and run the .NET framework cleanup tool
https://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/ar...edirected=true
Use it to remove ALL versions of .NET framework
Then use Microsoft update to put them all back again
This is heavy stuff though - if this tool goes wrong you'll end up with a broken system that will need a complete reinstall
If you had a retail copy of Windows, then the support requirement lies with M$, though often they choose to ignore that fact.
If that patch won't work then go to this site and run the .NET framework cleanup tool
https://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/ar...edirected=true
Use it to remove ALL versions of .NET framework
Then use Microsoft update to put them all back again
This is heavy stuff though - if this tool goes wrong you'll end up with a broken system that will need a complete reinstall
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If you had a retail copy of Windows, then the support requirement lies with M$, though often they choose to ignore that fact.
daz - are you saying that the Trading Standards do not apply to a purchase OS?
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I shall be on the phone (in the 'queue, of course) on Monday. I finally bit the bullet and did the uninstall/reinstall .net. - 45 minutes. heaven help anyone with a really slow connection!
I cannot afford the waste of time, but all updates now 'recognised'.
I cannot afford the waste of time, but all updates now 'recognised'.
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